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Wallzak
11-16-2006, 09:28 PM
<DIV>Hi, I'm looking for the specifics of the blessings.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I want to go Marr... but Brell's Mitgation buffs and AOE are too tempting to pass up (as outlined in the "which god for a paly" thread).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What does Marr give?  If you know of a thread that will do as well... I looked, lots of threads, not a lot of info.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a side note, when do you get these blessings... as you work through the quests, or at the very end?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV>

Daydeee
11-18-2006, 10:25 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sammcduff wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hi, I'm looking for the specifics of the blessings.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I want to go Marr... but Brell's Mitgation buffs and AOE are too tempting to pass up (as outlined in the "which god for a paly" thread).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What does Marr give?  If you know of a thread that will do as well... I looked, lots of threads, not a lot of info.</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff>Cloak of valor.... tho the number of times it proc's 40% grow... you'll suffer from motion sickness... yet to see it proc at the same time as bolster tho, an 80% bigger MT would just be far too comical... can't beat the true power of truth, when you tower over an npc darkelf shadowknight and kick it in the head....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>As a side note, when do you get these blessings... as you work through the quests, or at the very end?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff>When you complete each quest in the series you are rewarded with access to the next level of blessing/miracle, lasting blessing of Marr seems to be like apprentive 1 intercede... which is a bit crap... you take 85% target takes 25% or something like that, servers down can't check, the temp buffs are nice, though if you did the spear in your house, tis applicable to the temp hitpoint buff you get as a blessing.... and it lasts a full hour, miracle is only 10mins.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff>Last miracle owns tho, self buff absorbs the first 10 hits, any hits... 1700faith... by that time you'll have around 25000 faith from quests... or at least i did...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Cloak owns.. procs 2 x a minute average, 50str +15dps +40% growth <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> take motion sickness tablets, you'll be growing a lot hehe

Wallzak
11-21-2006, 01:15 AM
RE: the growth... I am currently working on Brell... one of the miracles/blessings is a mit buff that shrinks you by 50%.  The funny thing is I have a gnome paly who barely make the waist of most toons, when I shrink I don't even get to most people's knees... I thought I had height complex before... people on the raid last night were most amused, especially when the orge guardian grew and I shrank.

Majorminor
11-21-2006, 01:58 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daydeee wrote:<BR> <BR><BR>Cloak owns.. procs 2 x a minute average, 50str +15dps +40% growth <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> take motion sickness tablets, you'll be growing a lot hehe<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>/sigh dam, yet to see mine proc.  I might have illusions off, and didn't notice a change in dps though /shrug.

Majorminor
11-21-2006, 02:02 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daydeee wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff>Last miracle owns tho, self buff absorbs the first 10 hits, any hits... 1700faith... by that time you'll have around 25000 faith from quests... or at least i did...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The 4th one I did a /bugg on today.  The 5k point ward, that when cast on someone, you intercept 100%,you take 55% they would take 50%, then after it is done heals group for around 1k, Yea that one you can cast on yourself, you get the 5k ward, and the heal at the end, but no damage from inercept.  </P> <P> </P> <P>As Nice as I thought that was, I just don't think thats what they had in mind with it, really.  I mean, I won't complain if it stays that way hehe, but /shrug I don't see it happening that way</P>

CycoDelic
11-21-2006, 02:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Majorminor wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daydeee wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff>Last miracle owns tho, self buff absorbs the first 10 hits, any hits... 1700faith... by that time you'll have around 25000 faith from quests... or at least i did...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#0033ff></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The 4th one I did a /bugg on today.  The 5k point ward, that when cast on someone, you intercept 100%,you take 55% they would take 50%, then after it is done heals group for around 1k, Yea that one you can cast on yourself, you get the 5k ward, and the heal at the end, but no damage from inercept.  </P> <P> </P> <P>As Nice as I thought that was, I just don't think thats what they had in mind with it, really.  I mean, I won't complain if it stays that way hehe, but /shrug I don't see it happening that way</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>It makes sense as stated. If you use it on someone else you dont take the damage and get the intercept message. If you use it on yourself you get the 5000 point word, which is being used as damage is taken, but you are not intercepting damage thus no intercept message, but the damage is being taken and going to the ward. I find this to be a good feature, making the miracle useful for more than just raid support.

Brigh
11-21-2006, 02:53 AM
<P>Heh I just had a thought....I wonder if any wizards would pick Marr / Brell.</P> <P>It would certainly be a life saver to have a big ward like that.</P> <P>I hope Prexus comes for my erudite. Maybe Prex will have a miracle like Tsunami, or Hurricane that deals water magic damage, AE DD stun.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Majorminor
11-21-2006, 05:57 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CycoDelic wrote:<BR> <BR><BR>It makes sense as stated. If you use it on someone else you dont take the damage and get the intercept message. If you use it on yourself you get the 5000 point word, which is being used as damage is taken, but you are not intercepting damage thus no intercept message, but the damage is being taken and going to the ward. I find this to be a good feature, making the miracle useful for more than just raid support.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I understand why I didn't take any damage.  But think about this.  If it's supposed to work this way, I could, Cast this on myself, before a pull.  Basically raising my hits by 5k, then when Mine expires, someone else in the group cast there version on me, basicaly another 5k in hits?.  This could go on for several times,  I mean if it's supposed to work this way I'm not gonna complain.  I just don't see it supposed to work that way.  </P> <P> </P> <P>What other God has a 5k HP buff? even if it is temporary.</P>

CycoDelic
11-21-2006, 11:25 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Majorminor wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CycoDelic wrote:<BR> <BR><BR>It makes sense as stated. If you use it on someone else you dont take the damage and get the intercept message. If you use it on yourself you get the 5000 point word, which is being used as damage is taken, but you are not intercepting damage thus no intercept message, but the damage is being taken and going to the ward. I find this to be a good feature, making the miracle useful for more than just raid support.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I understand why I didn't take any damage.  But think about this.  If it's supposed to work this way, I could, Cast this on myself, before a pull.  Basically raising my hits by 5k, then when Mine expires, someone else in the group cast there version on me, basicaly another 5k in hits?.  This could go on for several times,  I mean if it's supposed to work this way I'm not gonna complain.  I just don't see it supposed to work that way.  </P> <P> </P> <P>What other God has a 5k HP buff? even if it is temporary.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not exactly. If you use yours to pull you get the 5k ward for yourself. Once yours expires and someone else uses theirs on you, they get the 5k ward are taking 55% of the damage you are receiving while you are taking 50%. So while it could be used to help stop the bleeding a bit it really doesnt have the infinite usage as eluded towards in your post. Also, you only have 2 casts AND iirc it is "group friend" so not sure it can be cast across groups when in a raid. And even if it could, how many MM followers are you really gonna have in a 24 man set?</DIV>

Majorminor
11-22-2006, 02:26 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CycoDelic wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR><BR>Not exactly. If you use yours to pull you get the 5k ward for yourself. Once yours expires and someone else uses theirs on you, they get the 5k ward are taking 55% of the damage you are receiving while you are taking 50%. So while it could be used to help stop the bleeding a bit it really doesnt have the infinite usage as eluded towards in your post. Also, you only have 2 casts AND iirc it is "group friend" so not sure it can be cast across groups when in a raid. And even if it could, how many MM followers are you really gonna have in a 24 man set?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I'm not in game atm, but I was pretty sure the wording on it was the Target would get the 5k ward.  Yes, it is only 2 cast's and the hour recast really won't make it spammable hehe, I just see it being misused in a way that might not have been the intention.  I'm pretty sure it is only group.  I don't care if it get's changed or not really, just really don't want to see it Misused, and then getting nerfed to oblivion because of it. </P> <P> </P> <P>No I don't expect a 24 man raid to be all MM followers, But, that said, it wouldn't surprise me to find it.  24 man rotation's of it in the MT group for some hard named thats coming up, wouldn't really surprise me.  Would disapoint me, because that's the kind of use that Would get it changed, to being useless somehow.  Ok extreme example yes.  But I have heard of things being done that, may be on the Exploit side of things. </P> <P>Not that this is, I just don't want to see it get to that point is all /shrug<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Majorminor on <SPAN class=date_text>11-21-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:27 PM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Majorminor on <SPAN class=date_text>11-21-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:28 PM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN>  <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN>  <P><SPAN class=time_text>Edited 3x cus I spiel rel gud</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Majorminor on <span class=date_text>11-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:29 PM</span>