bows?

[Kael Grace]

<DIV>While waiting through the eternal download, I am curious:  Do we now have the ability to use bows? </DIV>

[PolarBear77]

<DIV>Yarrrrrr</DIV>

[Silverpaws]

Ranged skill 5 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I have some work to do.<div></div>

[JarredDarque]

after all this time  WHY NOW!!!!!!

[FallenTurtle]

<DIV>the gods come back and suddenly crusaders remember how to use a friggen bow...</DIV>

[JarredDarque]

I would think it went the opposite, the gods come back, and we learn more useful ranged divine attack <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Silverpaws]

I think this is what happeneddev_01:  Pallys are mad.  We nerfed them hard.  They cant tank, cant heal, and cant dps.  What should we do?dev_02  Give em bows.  Maybe they wont notice./snicker  nudge nudge, wink wink Im glad we have bows.  Now to /random 100 on scout stuff!  Weee!!<div></div>

[Goodwill]

<P>Damm - Im paladin, but DEV - why dont you just make all classes even ? another move in the wring direction.</P> <P> </P> <P>Paladins dont use bows <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and that that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Lairdragna]

LOL... when DoF came out they gave us piercing... So we all ran around attacking green cons with our little pig stickers and leveled from 5 to 300...  Wasn't that fun?  But at least we could stay still, walk away and come back every five minutes to select a new mob.  Boring, but little real effort needed.  Now we ned to level up to 350 with ranged.  Well the only effective way to quickly do that is to go find some gray con mobs that can't hurt you and kite them.  1,600 arrows to skill up from 5 to 95... lol.  I called it a night at that point.  I think I might get a friend to stand there and taunt mobs while I just unload arrows at ranged and avoid the kiting altogether.<div></div>

[JarredDarque]

that is the best way, get a fellow Pally to pull like a lvl 50 heroic,  and remove their wepaon.  And you just tand back and shoot arrows all day

[Seomon]

<DIV>I missed something. Oh man, I need to go buy a bow now.</DIV>

[Lairdragna]

A couple decent treasured bows on broker that blow ebony away, no proc, but you can adorn them to add a damage pric I'm sure.  Much better stats, but still not on par with the stats of a good symbol.  I mostly see using this on ranged epic raid fights where I need to stay outside the aoe range and can rip some extra damage as I cycle heals, wards and mini nukes.  Maybe when and if I get a good fabled bow I'd think about leaving it equipped full-time, but the stats and FT on Mist Imbued Censer beat the bow hands down in terms of having it regularly equipped.<div></div>

[Drastar]

So, will our two proc buffs work on bows n arrows too?

[OrcSlayer96]

<DIV>I noticed last night as i was running around butcherblock 2 odd things, 1 was when i used my ranged attack for the bow, sometimes it used the hallowed judgement spell effect intead of the bow shooting, even tho the combat log shows i hit with piercing damage.  The other is when backig up on a horse i have no speed buff versus going forward, is this intential?</DIV>

[Wulfborne]

<P>Anyone have any ideas on decent bows to look for? I don't plan on hitting up fabled ones anytime soon of course, but a decent one to use to pull with (more mana for the close in fights) would be nice to know about... or even a decent dps one for use on those stinking ranged fights.</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<DIV>I am really bad on the bow myself, i just picked up the tier 7 npc sold bow in qeynos harbor till i skill up better on range.  I am thinking of just having a fellow guildie whip up a ebony longbow non imbued for the interim being as i have several extra ebonys in the bank.  Guess i will need to hit of a fellow guildie on arrows now, heheh the funny thing is i have had a 16 slot quiver for ages just to hold extra arrows for bow classes on raids.  Now i will have to pickup a larger quiver and better arrows to work with.  Already cleared 2 hotkeys to have the bow and my preferred symbol to switch out on the fly...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Pathin Merrithay]

<P>Oy.</P> <P>Too many things to do, not enough gameplay time...</P>

[Lairdragna]

Longbow... Splitscar, is dirt cheap... less than 20g on my server.  Shortbow, Silverpine.  I love this one for the 2.0 delay which is awesome for raising skill.  Just use the 1c arrows and buy a big quiver, you're gonna need it.  To get to 180 I've used around 3,500 arrows.<div></div>

[Goodwill]

<P><STRONG>Quote:</STRONG></P> <P>To get to 180 I've used around 3,500 arrows.</P> <P> </P> <P>Damm thats insane <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <BR></P>

[Lairdragna]

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate getting combat skills we should have had at launch...  I just wish they wouldn't hand them out when an expansion launches.  Nothing worse than telling your guild... nah, I'm gonna go level my ranged on gray mobs so I can actually hit stuff in a raid!  You guys have fun doing that instance!  With the release of DoF we got piercing and we all spent hour upon hour grinding up the skill to 300.  At least this seems a little quicker and involves some degree of activity if you go the kiting route, kinda humorous to see my gnome in banana armor a green set of boots and a red cape and the winged helmet kiting a bear four times his size.  <span>:smileysurprised:</span><div></div>

[RaistNA]

<DIV>if i do get a bow, ima just get one from like tarinax...that procs ammo.  Till then its fitz in range all the way!</DIV>

[Dwergux]

<blockquote><hr>JarredDarque wrote:that is the best way, get a fellow Pally to pull like a lvl 50 heroic,  and remove their wepaon.  And you just tand back and shoot arrows all day<hr></blockquote>How about the perma rooted epic in Nek Castle 1?Equip a low tier bow (T1 elm) and buy stacks and stacks of tin arrows and fire away.

[Wulfborne]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dwergux wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JarredDarque wrote:<BR> that is the best way, get a fellow Pally to pull like a lvl 50 heroic,  and remove their wepaon.  And you just tand back and shoot arrows all day<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>How about the perma rooted epic in Nek Castle 1?<BR><BR>Equip a low tier bow (T1 elm) and buy stacks and stacks of tin arrows and fire away.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Excellent idea! I might just do that later tonight.</P> <P>Lair, you mentioned for Longbow - Splitscar, and for Shortbow - Silverpine. If they aren't up for sale (weren't last night when I was looking) where would I find these for myself?</P> <P>*Edit - Forgot to ask: Do the shortbows up your skill faster since you shoot more quickly, or is it just a skill over time thing?</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P><p>Message Edited by Wulfborne on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:32 AM</span>

[Lord_Quaymar]

There has to be a place where you can stand on a mountain, ridge, etc... and shoot mobs without them being able to get to you....hmmmm.

[DarkLord35]

<DIV>Ranged skill 250/350 should be maxed by the time i get home from work today.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Easy to do.  Get a bow, i picked the ironwood short bow, shorter delay.  Geta a quiver, picked the 20 slot one, seemed to be the most slots for the money.  Bought 20 stacks of Tin Arrows, super cheap.  Went down to the the SS dock and found a fish in range, turned on auto range attack and AFK for about 2hrs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jedod</DIV> <DIV>70th Paladin</DIV> <DIV>The Tyrants - Permafrost</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Wulfborne]

<P>ROFL! A fish? That's pretty original, and easier than a rooted epic. Just hope you don't crit and kill it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>

[Silverpaws]

<div><blockquote><hr>DarkLord35 wrote:<div></div> <div>Ranged skill 250/350 should be maxed by the time i get home from work today.</div> <div> </div> <div>Easy to do.  Get a bow, i picked the ironwood short bow, shorter delay.  Geta a quiver, picked the 20 slot one, seemed to be the most slots for the money.  Bought 20 stacks of Tin Arrows, super cheap.  Went down to the the SS dock and found a fish in range, turned on auto range attack and AFK for about 2hrs.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Jedod</div> <div>70th Paladin</div> <div>The Tyrants - Permafrost</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>November 17th Game Update 29.1*Fish can now summon</div>

[Moonreft]

<DIV>shooting fish with a bow [Removed for Content]! Just struck me as funny.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How much you wanta bet this fish it going to be camped and encounter locked for the next week. [Removed for Content]</DIV><p>Message Edited by Moonreft on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:15 PM</span>

[Lairdragna]

Bet I was the first crusader to 350! Let's see... Gnome Winged Helmet Red Cloak Little bow Worship's EM's twin... /petition name change to Cupid! <div></div>

[Dwergux]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Lairdragna wrote:Bet I was the first crusader to 350! Let's see... Gnome Winged Helmet Red Cloak Little bow Worship's EM's twin... /petition name change to Cupid! <div></div><hr></blockquote>Wings...check (just don't hide your helmet)Bow...ckeckHmm yeah now to pierce the hearts of couples....good luck to you Cupid <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Rast]

I've never really looked, but are their crossbows in the game?  And if so, are they useable by Pallys?

[Lairdragna]

Have not seen a crossbow yet, maybe some day.<div></div>

[Lord_Quaymar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lairdragna wrote:<BR>Have not seen a crossbow yet, maybe some day.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah....those would be cool. Tinkerers should be able to make them imho.

[Guiddian]

<DIV>the pots you have to  destroy in lockjaws lair</DIV>

[Seomon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkLord35 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ranged skill 250/350 should be maxed by the time i get home from work today.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Easy to do.  Get a bow, i picked the ironwood short bow, shorter delay.  Geta a quiver, picked the 20 slot one, seemed to be the most slots for the money.  Bought 20 stacks of Tin Arrows, super cheap.  Went down to the the SS dock and found a fish in range, turned on auto range attack and AFK for about 2hrs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jedod</DIV> <DIV>70th Paladin</DIV> <DIV>The Tyrants - Permafrost</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Ah, didn't think of SS. I went to EF and got to 350 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Daydeee]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I noticed last night as i was running around butcherblock 2 odd things, 1 was when i used my ranged attack for the bow, sometimes it used the hallowed judgement spell effect intead of the bow shooting, even tho the combat log shows i hit with piercing damage. <FONT color=#ff0066> The other is when backig up on a horse i have no speed buff versus going forward, is this intential?</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, now act like real horse not overweight nag..<BR>Any notice that they seem to have pinched the Oblivion horse designer??

[Daydeee]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Atheros01 wrote:<BR> So, will our two proc buffs work on bows n arrows too?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yup<BR>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daydeee wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Atheros01 wrote:<BR> So, will our two proc buffs work on bows n arrows too?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yup<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Negative, our group proc buff works with bows but if you look at your self only proc buff it only affects melee damage, after looking at 2 nights worth of combat info it is only the group buff that procs on the bow, still very nice when it procs...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Wulfborne]

Marr diety cloak will proc on bow shots also.~Sir Hawke Holyblayde Hero of Maj'Dul<div></div>

[Kaalenarc]

anyone else seeing only the 2h attack animation instead of arrows flying?

[ElctSocket]

Anyone else liked the idea that pallys would attack with a divine ranged attack and not be able to use a bow? <div></div>

[Seidhkona]

<blockquote><hr>ElctSocket wrote:Anyone else liked the idea that pallys would attack with a divine ranged attack and not be able to use a bow? <div></div><hr></blockquote> I got my ideas about paladins from Elizabeth Moon's <i>Paksenarrion </i>books, and there the title paladin does use a bow, sometimes. I wantto see if there is an adornment for a bow that adds a divine damage proc, myself.  I got one like that for my Sword of Pain, but I am out-DPSing the adorned sword when I just sit and plunk arrows - the Splitscar Bow I have does more damage.<div></div>

[Wulfborne]

<P>I picked up the raincaller bow yesterday. Even if you almost never decide to use it, you'll want one for the graphic. It looks bad [Removed for Content]!</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>

[TheBu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kael Grace wrote:<BR> <DIV>While waiting through the eternal download, I am curious:  Do we now have the ability to use bows? </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yes it was a curse(joke) soe played on pallies to give them hours of fun.

[Prandtl]

<P>Want to level up your ranged autoattack fast?</P> <P>Buy a buttload of tin arrows and go to nek castle.  Find the rooted epic Archfiend Izzoroth and stand at max range.</P> <P>hit autoattack, and go afk.</P><p>Message Edited by Prandtl on <span class=date_text>11-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span>

[BigDaddy253]

<DIV>Yes I get the 2h animation when I hit ranged...but follow up shots are bow animations.  Unless something procs (even the proc on the bow) I get the 2h animation again...which looks funny as hell swinging a bow at a mob....like I ran out of arrows and just swinging whatever is at hand.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rain Caller bow is a good looking bow, lots of people have commited about how cool it looks in the hands of a pally <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nek Castle mob = best idea ever</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And correct me if Im wrong, the better the skill the better chance I have at hitting a mob with the bow?  Skill has nothing to so with amount of damage I will do correct?</DIV>

[Seomon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BigDaddy253 wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And correct me if Im wrong, the better the skill the better chance I have at hitting a mob with the bow?  Skill has nothing to so with amount of damage I will do correct?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I believe so. When you skillup, your Attack number will go up, but that's because you will hit more.<BR>

[Crib92]

<DIV>I'm doing the fish attack as we speak.  It works like a charm kudos to whomever came up with that one.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Brigh]

Unfortunately we can't do this on PVP.The TS / Nek docks are immune place but as soon as you attack even a fish your immunity timer gets reset and starts counting down every time you attack.<p>Message Edited by Brigh on <span class=date_text>11-23-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:29 AM</span>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wulfborne wrote:<BR> <P>I picked up the raincaller bow yesterday. Even if you almost never decide to use it, you'll want one for the graphic. It looks bad [Removed for Content]!</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I waited till a full guildie group wanted to do it and picked mine up last night.  This is a great quest, a fabled stun proc bow with a lightning bowstring that procs like crazy and the heritage gives 60 K plus status.  We one grouped the epicX2 mob at the end and leveled our guild a level with the autocompletion.  Having a druid keyed for all the druid circles speeds things up big time.  I still keep my silverpine bow if i want a machine gun salvo of arrows at the mobs.<BR>

[Lairdragna]

I use silverpine on raids when I'm outside aoe range and am spot healing.  Just load up a quiver with adamantine arrows and go nuts... lol, love it.  Most of the time though I have my symbol equipped because no bow I've seen gives the stat bonuses of a fabled symbol.  Bows are situation tools, but boy are they fun!<div></div>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lairdragna wrote:<BR>I use silverpine on raids when I'm outside aoe range and am spot healing.  Just load up a quiver with adamantine arrows and go nuts... lol, love it.  Most of the time though I have my symbol equipped because no bow I've seen gives the stat bonuses of a fabled symbol.  Bows are situation tools, but boy are they fun!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I agree that the bows dont have all the resists/stats and such as a symbol, but i seem to rarely have the symbol in my ranged slot anymore.  The stun proc on raincaller is so handy in group pulls with the couple second stun that i just keep it in there.  Now if i am going strictly melee for awhile then yes i will pop my symbol on but i have been using the bow heavily.  The Raincaller heritage is a awesome quest to do and if you havent started it i would highly recommend it(make sure you have at least 24 gold to buy the dwarven string on one part of the quest).<BR>

[Lairdragna]

I'll do Raincaller for sure, but I have found very little pulling seems to be done by bow or spell these days, seems to be a much greater concentration on aggro pulls.  I'm also finding myself tanking more than ever since our guard and zerker are playing alts except when raiding, so the crusaders in the guild are getting a workout.  This leads to a lot more melee for me and the symbol is vital.  The bow comes out on raids only it seems.<div></div>

[PhroZenAssassin]

<DIV>Paladins + Bow = Useless. I want a bow now! Templar + Bow!!!!</DIV>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> PhroZenAssassin wrote:<BR> <DIV>Paladins + Bow = Useless. I want a bow now! Templar + Bow!!!!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>PhroZenAssassin + the Quoted  Post =  Forum Troll</P> <P>Move along bud if you don't have anything constructive to say.<BR></P>

[Lairdragna]

Got a fabled bow on a raid last night... wootage!And let me tell you, fights like Corsolander are great with a bow.  Why burn power on spells and CAs to inflict damage.  Just autoattack with the bow and cast heals and wards as needed.  Its nice to relax every once in awhile like dps classes get to do.  No running in and out to joust certain aoes, no trying to get inside the mob's hitbox with all the other melees.  No trying to figure out which mob is where on multi-mob encounters... standing back you can actually see.  Oh yeah, on the rare ocassion I get to use it I'm liking it a lot!<div></div>

[BigDaddy253]

Can someone enlighten me on this Bow of the Silverpine pls?  I'm not up on my bows, where does this drop or is it quested?  2s bow sounds nice when I'm sitting back and healing/warding.

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BigDaddy253 wrote:<BR> Can someone enlighten me on this Bow of the Silverpine pls?  I'm not up on my bows, where does this drop or is it quested?  2s bow sounds nice when I'm sitting back and healing/warding.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I picked up mine off the Isle of the Broker...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Just remember that due to the delay, the damage your arrow does is much less than the raincaller or other 7 second bows and it is a 25 meter range versus 35 meter range.  That being said, when i have a bunch of successful attack type procs i whip out the silverpine and watch as the procs go off constantly.  A fellow guildee won Wurm Destroyer Bow the other night in Labs and i was tempted to bid for it.  The divine damage is each hit when the target is draconic and that fits good with our divine debuff we have.<BR>

[Lairdragna]

I got that bow in labs Saturday night, it is delovely!<div></div>

[Brigh]

is ranged skill on fish nerfed?I have been autofiring on levle 10-11 fish and it has not gone up anymore past 112.Is it a tier thing?If so its a shame since the place I go on pvp is safest I have found.

[Lairdragna]

You will skill up faster on mobs that con other than gray.<div></div>

[Madbiker]

CANT EVEN USE THE F***ING BOW FROM EMERALD HALLS!!!! [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] AND IT HAS A HEAL INCREASE CHANCE.... how many scouts have real heals? (is a dirge really a scout )

[Arraza]

Ok for those of you who haven't done it yet this is what you do, buy a full quiver of tin arrows and go to loping plains, there is a rock right outside of the mistmoore catacombs entrance with blue goblins that do not engage from the water, just like the fish off the docks.  Leveled 250 points in a couple hours on autofire, took almost 2000 arrows though.

[Karlen]

Gaving decided to try out this ranged skill, I found a bow, but I can't use it until I turn 60 (I'm only 59.9 at the moment).  Before I go out and get arrows, can someone tell me what the difference between various arrows is?  How are level 60 arrows better than level 50 ones?<div></div>

[Arraza]

<P>I'm not an expert, and I'm hoping that someone else will explain better, but yes higher tier arrows do more damage than lower tiered arrows and you would want to use adamantine arrows once you are able.  </P> <P> </P> <P>The reason people are using tin arrows is because they are only 1c a piece.  In order to level from 0-350 it will take you appoximately 2000k arrows, so you obviously don't want to be spending 6s x 2000  (1p20g) arrows just to level up.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Crib92]

<DIV>I wanted to be able to use a bow for as long as I remember.  Now that I have one, I barely use it.  Funny how that works out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As others suggest, there are multiple items that are better for buffing, and its use is situational for ranged fights only.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess it gives me a reason to work on raincaller heritage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Arraza]

I actually have been using mine quite a bit.  Unless I am MT in a raid situation, or a difficult zone (CMM) or a zone where nearly everything is a body pull (OOB) then its in my ranged slot.  I love grabbing mobs from twice what I used to be able to grab em from.

[Wallzak]

<P>I didn't use it very much at the start, but i'm using it more and more, especially when I'm not MT.</P> <P>The range of bows are 2-35 meters, almost all our attacks are at least 2 meters.  So it you stand at 2 meters, you can hit the mob with your bow, plus nail it with everything else... it's like a new ability for us.  I'm also using it on pulls just because of the added 5 meter range, plus one more hit before the mob gets to the group.</P>

[Wallzak]

<DIV>"I love grabbing mobs from twice what I used to be able to grab em from"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Am I missing something... decree is 30 meters, so is refusal... bows are 35 meters... is there a bow that hits farther than this?</DIV>

[Arraza]

Guess not, but it seems like significantly farther for me.  Perhaps "twice" as far was too much of an exageration for folks in the know. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Wulfborne]

<P>True, though with certain bows (Raincaller) you can proc a nice little stun on them and so plunk it with the arrows several times before they come to your group. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>~Hawke</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wulfborne wrote:<BR> <P>True, though with certain bows (Raincaller) you can proc a nice little stun on them and so plunk it with the arrows several times before they come to your group. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>~Hawke</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yep the Raincaller procs quite often and the stun effect is easy to see, allowing me to toss Refusal and Decree on the mob before they come into melee range for fun and sometimes even get a second shot in if i back up some while fireing off decree.<BR>

[Karlen]

<div><blockquote><hr>Wintermute218 wrote:<div></div> <p>I'm not an expert, and I'm hoping that someone else will explain better, but yes higher tier arrows do more damage than lower tiered arrows and you would want to use adamantine arrows once you are able.  </p> <p> <font color="#ffff33">I skilled up to 300 yesterday and went through a stack of the adamantine ones before I found out there were cheaper ones available.  The adamantine ones were about 6g per stack of 100 and I generally hit for 500-700 on the grey level 45 mobs I was fighting (I am 60).  The level 10 ones which cost 5s per 100 hit for about 40-100, while the level 1 arrows (1s per 100) hit for 10-20.</font></p> <p>The reason people are using tin arrows is because they are only 1c a piece.  In order to level from 0-350 it will take you appoximately 2000k arrows, so you obviously don't want to be spending 6s x 2000  (1p20g) arrows just to level up.</p> <p><font color="#ffff00"> I went through about 2000 arrows skilling up. maybe a little less.</font></p> <hr></blockquote></div>

[duuf]

Hmm my experience for leveling up bow skill 5 to 350 :Standing on above water part of sunken boat in loping plains targeting water bound goblins.Had to use the raincaller because my short bow kept losing target on autoattack22% HasteLittle over 3000 tin arrows (almost a full 32 containers worth)Little over 4 hours.Duufuss lvl 70 PallyDuufus lvl 70 BrigDuffus lvl 70 WizLEET HAX! (Title conferred by Gutwrench)Everfrost<div></div>

[Rarlin]

The Raincaller is the funniest bow ever.I was in the Oblisk pulling something and had it stun 3-4x in a row on one pull and we were laughing our heads off on Vent!<div></div>

[Wallzak]

<DIV>I've done the same thing... solo even... especially with haste being 50+</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Imagine have a whole group of people using raincaller... the mob would never move <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>