OK... so what about group tanking abilities post-EOF?

[Feydakeen]

<DIV>Ok....I can come to terms with the fact we'll never be raid MT's etc...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But at least our group tanking abilities are still great ? Please tell me we haven't lost that part post-EOF?</DIV> <DIV>Can any BETA pally comment on this?</DIV>

[QuaiCon]

our abilities did not really change so we can still tank as before, but in the eof instances that i tanked i also noticed that i required a lot more healing, so if there was  only 1 healer i had to do a lot healing myself (and that was with mostly fabled armor), but i did not tank any of the old zones so i cannot say if the new instances are harder or our mit is really low now.<div></div>

[Feydakeen]

<DIV>MMmmmm requiring a second healer in very tough zone like in Nizara is not really an issue. Requiring a second healer in a HoF like zone would definately hurt our group desirability <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Rast]

This concerns me too...  I rolled the Pally to be a tank, not a healer <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Wulfborne]

<div><blockquote><hr>Feydakeen wrote:<div>Ok....I can come to terms with the fact we'll never be raid MT's etc...</div> <div> </div> <div>But at least our group tanking abilities are still great ? Please tell me we haven't lost that part post-EOF?</div> <div>Can any BETA pally comment on this?</div><hr></blockquote>Ok - I think it will be somewhat situational unless things get tweaked a little more. I seemed to do ok taking hits in the KoS zones (they really didn't feel any different), but many mobs in the new zones (EoF) hit much harder, and interrupt/stun like crazy. That being said, it was very difficult to keep myself healed/warded properly in comparison to the KoS mobs.In keeping aggro, since we have little available to help us in the way of hate generation, this has become less reliable. Many classes have AAs which increased their damage output by a good bit. So, now it'll be harder to keep aggro if you have multiple high DPS classes in your group. Heck, I duo'd with a Wizzy who had specc'd out for massive damage, and even with my amends on him, he <i>still </i>pulled aggro a few times. About our only counter to this is to go crazy on dps when not taunting, which the wraths line helped some.~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</div>

[Feydakeen]

<P>Mmmmmmm that doesn't sound too positive <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I really really want to keep being a MT in groups. Was your miti hit hard by the changes or did you have enough adornments to compensate? </P>

[QuaiCon]

i am at roughly 5k mitigation on life  now, when my char got copied over i was at a bit more than 4.6k mit. with switching some items and getting adornments from beta merchant i endedd up with ~4850 mitigation. (its not the best equip thats out there atm but more mit than i got with a betabuffed pally in full relic armor).I did not see interrupts that much a problem, i was still able to heal when needed but i was also getting hit really hard (so a single healer had a hard job without me helping out). No idea if a pally in mastercrafted armor could tank this (maybe with 2 healers, but it will be hard to the limit i guess).<div></div>

[Wulfborne]

<div><blockquote><hr>Feydakeen wrote:<div></div> <p>Mmmmmmm that doesn't sound too positive <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p> <p>I really really want to keep being a MT in groups. Was your miti hit hard by the changes or did you have enough adornments to compensate? </p><hr></blockquote>On live I have a hair under 5100 miti self-buffed, no potions or food (something like 5075-ish).On beta I dropped approx 450 miti. (Rounding numbers). I wasn't in exactly the same gear, since some items got hit harder than others, and some items got a slight boost, but it was pretty close to the same set-up.~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</div>

[Feydakeen]

<DIV>That sounds a bit like my stats.</DIV> <DIV>Ok well, let's hope we still get a tweak. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Looking at the EoF AP's if I really want to tank looks like i only have 2 options. o compensate for no taunting upgrades go Wrath line to get more DPS agro and go Hero line to increase HP's and the block ability...</DIV>

[CycoDelic]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Feydakeen wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ok....I can come to terms with the fact we'll never be raid MT's etc...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But at least our group tanking abilities are still great ? Please tell me we haven't lost that part post-EOF?</DIV> <DIV>Can any BETA pally comment on this?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I trio'd Crypt of Valdoon and Obelisk with a templar and a necro... we can still group tank quite well.