Vs Group MT

[hawsecav19d]

<DIV>I just got done reading latest changes to Smite Evil and posted this there does anyone think this is a viable option.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If I didnt know better I would think sony trying to make us the vs groups MT right now I got 7 situtational AOEs plus Bonelcasped girdle and earring that proc when I cast aoe taunt giving me 8 that can cause damage this AA would give me 9 AOE's they are increaseing the damage of several of my AOEs. My biggest gripe about Gaurdian MT is that they seldom ever loose mob they are focused on its the off ones that run astray and kill wiz or who ever got itchy fingers with this much ability to generate group agro thru damage I believe we might have a role its just going to make us rely on others same as amends some. Raid mobs of 3 or more might be our niche. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dont know if this is that last root I am holding onto on the cliff but I would think this could give us a chance as MT even though we dont get temp mit or more agro taunts if you have amends on someone AOEing with you I would think be hard to loose mobs at least harder to loose the extra than say any other tank. Would be situational against solo mobs gaurdian prob be the better choice but could give us a reason to say we can be MT.</DIV>

[Anavron Ta]

Makes sense to me - I was wondering just about the same thing last night in Labs. <div></div>

[Mgunner]

<DIV>I hope this isn't the case. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Put in paladin for this group encounter"</DIV> <DIV>"Take out paladin, insert guardian for this named so we don't wipe"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, if they fixed the group mit to include fighters, or at least the caster.....then maybe</DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Mgunner on <span class=date_text>11-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:59 AM</span>

[Vulkan_NTooki]

<DIV>Actually.. I kinda like the idea..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guardians would be the tanking wizards.. vs solo nameds..</DIV> <DIV>Paladins would be the tanking warlocks.. vs group mobs/nameds..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>would give us a role atleast.. </DIV>

[xjailbaitx]

    This seems like a good possibility with our hate syphons and new ae prowess we might just rival zerkers for the grp tank position, if (and this is a big IF) we can use our healing abilities effectively.  As we all know interupts to our long cast heals and wards are a major problem for us as is but is only multiplied when numerous mobs are hitting us. Again we need a focus buff or a temp spell effect that gives us the ability to use our heals and wards as effectively as other fighters use their tanking CAs. If this was implemented with our new EOF ae line we would be able to over come the lower health power and mit and be a viable off tank and grp tank option. <div></div>

[Wallzak]

<P>like it or not... we already are.</P> <P>I"m not familar with the other tanking classes, but if you add our group taunt, we have 4 group hate gainers that we can used on a one minute or less timer  (1 taunt, 3 aoe's).  Throw a warlock in our group and there shouldn't be a time off targeted mobs are getting pealed off unless the dps isn't targeting me... then it's their own fault :smileywink:</P> <P>I got myself into a group last night... had a warlock in it... who had never played with a paly.  The group made jokes about the lock dying all night... I winked, threw amends on her and told her to go wild.  She turned it into her personal mission to grab agro from me... and gave up rather quickly.  </P>

[Mgunner]

<DIV>It's different for regular groups and for raids. We own with the hate we can get from warlock with all our AoE's. However, your not going to put a warlock in the MT group for raids.  This is why many wish amends could be used cross raid. As it stands, many paladins put amends on a Defiler.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What concerns me isn't the hate. We can keep hate if we are smart. What concerns me is how fast we fall. Our mit isn't has high, our HP's aren't as high, and our avoidance is garbage. Guardians have much better bounce back abilities when they get close to death. When they are low on HP's, they throw up tower of stone so healers can catch up. We just die.</DIV>