agro

[TheBu]

<DIV>Anyone tested getting agro with amends on someone and them having other deagros on them?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>been testing getting agro with other deagro spells.</DIV> <DIV>I had a Troubador with the 38% deagro in the group and my amends 41% transfer on necro(no pet)</DIV> <DIV>I was able to get agro right off at first on their pulls, but then the necro started getting agro.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also what you guys think about the dirge and coercer agro buff does not work on the agro transfers hate?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Wetsto]

<P>I group regularly with a bruiser and coercer. I have the coercer put his hate buff on the bruiser, then I give the bruiser amends. I never have aggro problems with that set-up. In my opinion, hate reducers should never be used on your amends target. If its a group buff, have your amends target find the buff icon, and cancel it. That way the rest of group still gets the effect of the hate redcuer.</P> <P>~Wet~</P> <P>edit for typos</P><p>Message Edited by Wetstone on <span class=date_text>10-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:05 PM</span>

[Dwergux]

I don't know for sure how amends works in combination with the troubadour deaggro ability.Alin's Soothing Serenade states : Group members will gain 50% less hate (if not fighter) When target is hit group members will loose xxx hate (if not fighter)Some numbers added to various scenarios:Consider this group:NecroPaladinTroubadour1. No hate transfer / AmendsNecro generates 1000 hatePaladin generates 1200 hateTroubadour generates 500 hate2. M1 Amends on necroNecro generates 590 Hate (59% of 1000)Paladin generates 1610 Hate (1200 + 41% of 100)Troubadour generates 500 Hate3. No Amends, just hate reducrtion songNecro generates 500 Hate (50% of 1000)Paladin generates 1200 HateTroubadour generates 250 Hate4a. M1 Amends on necro, Alin's running (alin's reduction taken first)Necro generates 295 Hate (59% of 50% of 1000)Paladin generates 1405 Hate (1200 + 51% of 50% of 1000)Troubadour generates 250 Hate4b. M1 Amends on necro, Alin's running (alin's reduction taken last)Necro generates 295 Hate (50% of 59% of 1000)Paladin generates 1610 Hate (1200 + 41% of 1000)Troubadour generates 250 HateWhich of these scenario's 4a or 4b would apply?

[TheBu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dwergux wrote:<BR>I don't know for sure how amends works in combination with the troubadour deaggro ability.<BR><BR>4b. M1 Amends on necro, Alin's running (alin's reduction taken last)<BR><BR>Necro generates 295 Hate (50% of 59% of 1000)<BR>Paladin generates 1610 Hate (1200 + 41% of 1000)<BR>Troubadour generates 250 Hate<BR><BR>Which of these scenario's 4a or 4b would apply?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>it apear 4b is closest. </P> <P>1. ur trub does not reduce 50%: the lvl 70 spell is 40% for M and the lvl 38 M is 38%</P> <P>2. but ur thinking the reduction taken after the reduction of the pallys transfer. Think of it like a pie. pally takes 41% of the whole pie then the trub get his slices of the pie..  .But dont short him he wants his 40% of a pie. the trub likes his pizza.</P> <P>You may see where i am going with this.. read my post again on how and when i got agro.</P> <P> my question are can the trub agro reduction spell be resisted on a group member if the mob are like 20lvls higher than the spell. Or was the necro a bad pick for some reason. He did not have procing stuff on he said...</P>