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[Crib92]

<DIV>I finally got my Amends Master and have graduated from Nooblet to Noob.  Only cost me 10 plat too.  I find that to be an extremely fair price.   I have to say I was tempted to turn around and list it for 75 plat but I decided to scribe it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe now COS will let me tank Nest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Lord_Quaymar]

LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>To each their own but the difference is noticeable to me.  Adept 3 still allows for 6% of the damage to hit the target, Master 1 has it where the target takes no damage on the hit.  In a group situation that is negligable, but in a epic situation, the difference between 0% and 6% can be the difference between standing up long enough for a heal/ward, or seeing the revive screen.  I tell my fellow guildees it is like giving the target a 1 hit stoneskin, especially when applied to a warlock or ranger that may get agro.<BR>

[Shaidown]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>To each their own but the difference is noticeable to me.  Adept 3 still allows for 6% of the damage to hit the target, Master 1 has it where the target takes no damage on the hit.  In a group situation that is negligable, but in a epic situation, the difference between 0% and 6% can be the difference between standing up long enough for a heal/ward, or seeing the revive screen.  I tell my fellow guildees it is like giving the target a 1 hit stoneskin, especially when applied to a warlock or ranger that may get agro.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Maybe it's just me confused....but you're happy about Amends, and I would be too.....but you describe Intercept</P> <P>am I missing something here?</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shaidown wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>To each their own but the difference is noticeable to me.  Adept 3 still allows for 6% of the damage to hit the target, Master 1 has it where the target takes no damage on the hit.  In a group situation that is negligable, but in a epic situation, the difference between 0% and 6% can be the difference between standing up long enough for a heal/ward, or seeing the revive screen.  I tell my fellow guildees it is like giving the target a 1 hit stoneskin, especially when applied to a warlock or ranger that may get agro.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Maybe it's just me confused....but you're happy about Amends, and I would be too.....but you describe Intercept</P> <P>am I missing something here?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Oh crud, that is what i get for posting without eating lunch, heheh i still would say that getting Amends to Master 1 is a large improvement.  Adept 3 of Amends is 39% and Master 1 is 41%.  Ask any DPS person out there what their total dps is on a epic raid and how much hate 2% extra would mean.   Good job on the Master find and sorry about the wrong spell there....heheheh.<BR>

[Shaidown]

<DIV>Hey hey, Grats to ya tho</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I agree tho.....Im not sure that 2% was really worth 8plat....but if you have it to buy it.....then go ahead</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>personally...I'll be all AD3 and loot Masters and only buy when they are suitably cheap (or trade)</DIV>

[Mantell]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Amends is a Tier 4 spell. Selling the Adept III for 2p is highway robbery. Get to know an alchemist!</DIV>

[Crib92]

<DIV>I've had the Adept 3 for a long time and I noticed a significant drop in aggro management when Adept 3 went from 41% to 39%.  I haven't used it since upgrading but I am hoping to see it performing back to original levels.  This is one spell along with taunts, bash, and AOE's that I feel are must upgrades.  If there is one ability that defines a Pally its Amends. (IMO)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This spell may be a Lower Tier spell but we can not expect that this will be upgraded further so then it becomes what is it worth to the buyer?  I would bet that there are many Pallies out there who would pay alot more than 10 plat for an Amends Master 1.  I want to lead no doubt when I tank that I can hold aggro.  That extra 2% will definitely help so for me 10 plat is a steal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then again it may be about Finances for some folks, if you are lacking in cash then 10 plat is a rough one.  Personally I can make 10 plat fairly easily so its no big deal.  I would agree with the above poster, if you harvest the rare you can probably get the spell made for 10gp or less so you could save a heap of money if you have the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now would I spend 10 plat on the auto rez spell? (Don't even know the name cause it isn't even on my hot bar)  Heck no.  Wouldn't pay 1 plat for it.  But there is someone out there who would.</DIV>

[Shaidown]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarthKerwin wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Amends is a Tier 4 spell. Selling the Adept III for 2p is highway robbery. Get to know an alchemist!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dude...Everyone calls it amends....from the Tier 3 up to Tier 7.....it's just easier than remembering all the different names for the spell<p>Message Edited by Shaidown on <span class=date_text>09-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:19 PM</span>

[PolarBear77]

gratz bro on the find..... took me foever to find mine .. but when i did .... wow what a amazing day that was.... not sure if anyone members but i blew up the pally chat when i found it for 2g on the broker..someone had to have mis listed it .. oh well there loss =D

[Wulfborne]

<DIV>Aye, grats on the spell. Whether a huge improvement over Adept 3 or not, it *is* an improvement, and every little bit helps. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</DIV>

[MeridianR]

2% might not be the end all be all for some people, but some min/max people (like myself) believe every little bit helps. I spent 15plat on Sigil of Heroism for 4%, and would have spent 20plat eventually if it didn't drop.<div></div>

[ChopStix]

<P>Gratz!</P> <P> </P> <P> i got my master amends in my 40's... dropped in oblisk of lost souls.. cant remember the named i got it off of, maybe the giant eyeball.. i just know it was oblisk</P> <P> </P> <P> i know we were bewildered when the master chest popped off the creature..</P>

[Mantell]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shaidown wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarthKerwin wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> LordQuaymar wrote:<BR> LOL...Adept III only costs 2p max and the difference is negligible....not worth the 8p difference imho but gratz anyway!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Amends is a Tier 4 spell. Selling the Adept III for 2p is highway robbery. Get to know an alchemist!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dude...Everyone calls it amends....from the Tier 3 up to Tier 7.....it's just easier than remembering all the different names for the spell <P>Message Edited by Shaidown on <SPAN class=date_text>09-18-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:19 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>The line stops at level 49. It goes Redemption (21), Atonement (35), Amends (49). It should be upgraded at 63 but is not. </P> <P>So I stand corrected, Amends is a Tier 5 spell, but 2 plat is still outrageous for an Adept III. A Fused loam, an alchemist and about 20 gold is all you should need.</P>

[Arraza]

<P>Grats!</P> <P>I just got my master amends for 5p Tuesday night!  Someone announced it in 50-59, I missed the announce but thankfully some buddies pointed it out to me, and I offered 5p for it... and he replied sure, the other person bidding on it didn't want to pay that much for it... I was [Removed for Content] at my luck.<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Crib92 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I finally got my Amends Master and have graduated from Nooblet to Noob.  Only cost me 10 plat too.  I find that to be an extremely fair price.   I have to say I was tempted to turn around and list it for 75 plat but I decided to scribe it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe now COS will let me tank Nest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Crib92]

<DIV>Very nice!  It feels like your getting your GED or something lol.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5 Plat is a nice deal.  Can't believe no other Pallies saw that.</DIV>

[tiger911]

<DIV>2% is definetly worth it. I spent 2 plat on mine, but if I would of spent up to 10 plat. I definetly noticed a great change with Sigil of Heroism and Amends masters, was hard to find both, I think I got the only Sigil of Heroism master in Kithicor, was the one and only that I've seen on the broker, spend 7 plat and bought that ouright without even waiting for the seller to get online.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Every bit counts, especially being 2ndary tank and MT at times in a t7 raiding guild. Very nice find guys.</DIV>

[Arraza]

<DIV>Mmmmm, Master Sigil... that would be nice, I have to scope for that one too... and rescue wouldn't be too bad to have either.  I buddy just gave me Divine Judgement M1 last night, was so psyched to grab that one up, never seen it around actually.  I forget about searching for some of the lower level masters when I hit the broker, have to make a mental note to search.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Lord_Quaymar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>DarthKerwin wrote:</P> <P>The line stops at level 49. It goes Redemption (21), Atonement (35), Amends (49). It should be upgraded at 63 but is not.</P> <P>So I stand corrected, Amends is a Tier 5 spell, but 2 plat is still outrageous for an Adept III. A Fused loam, an alchemist and about 20 gold is all you should need.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You completely missed my point /BONK. What I'm saying is that if you are going to spend some plat, it would be better to spend 2p on the Amends III (MAX cost) than to spend 8p on the Master....get it now? FYI...I got my Amends III for free by harvesting the rare and having a guildie make it for nothing.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Lord_Quaymar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MeridianR wrote:<BR>2% might not be the end all be all for some people, but some min/max people (like myself) believe every little bit helps. I spent 15plat on Sigil of Heroism for 4%, and would have spent 20plat eventually if it didn't drop.<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Aye, that's the true question...is it worth it to you and do you have the plat to spend.</P> <P>Personally, 2% is not worth 8p to me. 4p (2p per % point hehe) would be the max that I would pay but that's just me.</P>

[khufure]

Amends is worth whatever you can afford.  The difference between master1 and adpt3 is noticeable.<div></div>

[Arraza]

<P>Well, I had amends a3 made for the cost of the rare (my ultra cool guildie alchemist) which was 2p at the time, and now I bought the master for 5p, so total cost 7p.  Still not bad.  </P> <P>I know folks will argue with me, but personally plat isn't that hard to come by at level 70.  I can go into any zone or instance and walk away with at least a plat after a few hours between adept drops and looted treasures and other drops.  If thats the only way you make money it may take a week to save up enough to buy one, but if you spend a couple nights a week it isn't that hard.  Once you get your masters and some good weapons and armor you can even solo pretty deep into some places.  I was waiting for a group for claymores to start and i was killing the 1-up mobs at the entrance to PoA and made 50g in less than an hour in drops.  Take a decent mage with you and you can duo names and 3 ups and split the loot 2 ways instead of with a whole group.  This doesn't even get into collecting.</P>