Amends not working in LU27

[CzerkinskyEQ2]

<DIV>Amends must be buffed last!!<BR>If Amends is buffed before another buff, Amends will not work.</DIV>

[ChopStix]

i noticed this also, actually a couple days ago..

[CzerkinskyEQ2]

<div></div>Hi <span>:smileyhappy:</span> It was relieved because there was a person who had noticed the same result. This is a big problem for the aggro management of pally <span>:smileymad:</span>

[Hamervelder]

Wow, that's not cool.  I hope they get that fixed soon for you guys.<div></div>

[RaistNA]

this is so typical, amends has been broken more then its worked right i swear.  any word on when  its going to be fixed or are they going to say 'working as intended' again?<div></div>

[equinoxio]

I would say, we not going to hear anything, like the DA problem

[Fatuus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CzerkinskyEQ2 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Amends must be buffed last!!<BR>If Amends is buffed before another buff, Amends will not work.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>This is makes a lot of sense. I was duoing with a wizard and had amends master I on him (41% hate transfer) and couldn't hold aggro to save my life even with all master I and 2 taunts and all master I attacks.</P> <P>Even if he unloaded ice nova and fusion in 8 seconds (which didn't occur) I would still be able to hold aggro if I hit the mob with just my taunts.</P> <P>ice nova 11k</P> <P>4510 to me hate gain 6490</P> <P>Fusion 13k</P> <P>5330 hate to me 7690 to him</P> <P>This equals a hate gain difference of 4320</P> <P>I can make that hate gain difference up easily by just hitting 4 taunts (2 single target, group, and shield bash) well before fusion would hit...so why was I losing aggro?</P> <P>I was also DPSing with melee weapons during this time and probably did around 1k in damage too.</P> <P>Something is broker with amends right now for sure.</P>

[Eono]

Had the same issue with the wizzard I group with normally. After examining the buffs on me I realized he had cast that one that was changed in LU27 and has a %hate transfer. Once I had him remove that everything was back to normal. Appears the wizzard/warlock transfer will nullify ammends just as the others do.

[Crib92]

<DIV>If there is one criticism I would make about this game is the clarify of how buffs work with each other.  I always love burning an Intelligence potion or some other variety to only see it have no affect because of another buff currently on me.  If there is a conflict then there should be a message or it should not allow you to cast the spell.  Similar to how hex dolls work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[shadowsmage]

<DIV>Thank god others have seen this also....I was begining to think I lost my touch.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Someone please clarify how to get around this. OP mentioned about being the</DIV> <DIV>first buff cast, is that me casting , someone else casting, casting on me, or casting on them?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please clarify - if it will help any.</DIV>

[Jezekie]

<div><blockquote><hr>Eono wrote:<div></div>Had the same issue with the wizzard I group with normally. After examining the buffs on me I realized he had cast that one that was changed in LU27 and has a %hate transfer. Once I had him remove that everything was back to normal. Appears the wizzard/warlock transfer will nullify ammends just as the others do.<hr></blockquote>You need to have him cancel Anomalism and recast Amends on him for Amends to resume to normal function.</div>

[Arraza]

<P>Wow... I was in HoF a couple of days ago for the first time in a few weeks and I couldn't hold agro for the life of me, kept putting it on the wizzy or warlock i had in the group.... no wonder I couldn't hold agro.</P> <P>Arg... now my spotless reputation as an agro holding beast is diminished... </P>

[Canel]

hrmmm havnt really noticed htis alot (havnt really been grouping much tho latly) but when i put amends on my wizzie when its tiem to raid-he never dies (tho i do ~_~) so,...hehe thx for hte heads up nyway

[Wulfborne]

<P>I haven't noticed a problem at all and i have been hitting raid and group content fairly constantly since the update. I guess the key is just knowing what things stack, and what things can "chain" and in what order. Maybe some of the casters aren't as familiar with it since they recently had a hate redux added to a buff of theirs, so they hadn't had to deal with it before.</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>

[Fatuus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wulfborne wrote:<BR> <P>I haven't noticed a problem at all and i have been hitting raid and group content fairly constantly since the update. I guess the key is just knowing what things stack, and what things can "chain" and in what order. Maybe some of the casters aren't as familiar with it since they recently had a hate redux added to a buff of theirs, so they hadn't had to deal with it before.</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>dunno if you were tanking the raid, but the posts above stated that when amends failed they had the wiz hate transfer on their characters. If you are in an OT group, the wiz hate transfer thing is raid friendly...so it would be cast on the MT not you for better aggro holding purposes...still allowing you to pull hate from the wizard.

[Wulfborne]

<P>No, I wasn't MT'ing the raid, but when you have more than one wizard in a raid, the other ones tend to want to put it on someone. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I guess your statement supports what I was saying - that some people simply aren't aware of what works with what. A wizzy needs to know not to put that on you if you have amends on them. It's really no different than with the situation we had with Amends and any scout aggro dump, as far as I have seen.<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fatuus wrote:<BR> <BR>dunno if you were tanking the raid, but the posts above stated that when amends failed they had the wiz hate transfer on their characters. If you are in an OT group, the wiz hate transfer thing is raid friendly...so it would be cast on the MT not you for better aggro holding purposes...still allowing you to pull hate from the wizard.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>