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Dionisi
09-17-2006, 06:17 PM
<DIV>I know that this is an spell that a Paladin can aquire at level 55, but is it a drop, player made or to be purchased from a vender?  It looks like a great spell but I can not seem to find one on my server.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If it is player made, what is the scroll that it is from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance for any info on this.</DIV>

ChopStix
09-17-2006, 10:50 PM
check the paladin trainer ... if not you can inspect the advanced alchenist volumes on the broker and it will tell you which spells are in it...  i would check advanced alchemist volume 55 to start with... possibly the ancient teaching ones also....

Vathranen
09-18-2006, 12:44 AM
<DIV>It is an ancient teachings scroll. However, since LU24 I think they changed those recipes so that they drop in one book. I think it's called Advanced Alchemy Essentials Volume 6 or somesuch. I could be way off as I'm not an alchemist myself but I seem to recall those specialty spell recipes being changed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another thing to note is that the name is a little off. It's not called Consecrate, it's called Rune* of Consecration.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*Rune is what the scout abilities are called; I can't recall what the fighter ones are called but you see what I'm getting at.</DIV>

Wulfborne
09-18-2006, 07:01 PM
<P>Fighter ones are "Essence of" whatever.</P> <P>The master spell drops off mobs, the Adept 3 is craftable by players... when I got mine, it's cuz an alchemist scribed the ancient teachings scroll. Those still drop, so if you find an alchemist that doesn't have the recipe, you might wanna look for one of those scrolls also. (I don't know if there's a book containing them all).</P> <P>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</P>

Fatuus
09-18-2006, 08:24 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dionisis6 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I know that this is an spell that a Paladin can aquire at level 55, but is it a drop, player made or to be purchased from a vender?  It looks like a great spell but I can not seem to find one on my server.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If it is player made, what is the scroll that it is from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance for any info on this.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Its the lvl 55 rare ancient teaches spell. You need to find an alcehist that can make it or buy the adept I or master I (if you can find it) on the broker. You need a rare to make the spell (can only be made adept III not AppIV. Also just search the broker for consecrate, the ancient teachings spell recipe for making it has it in its name.</P> <P>Lastly, the ancient Alchemy teachings volume 6 is actually for some Lvl 70 spells and does not pertain to this discussion <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Sorry my lvl 70 alchemist alt had to clear up some confusion caused by confused players.</P>

Tallhart
09-18-2006, 11:21 PM
<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Wulfborne wrote:<div></div><p>The master spell drops off mobs, the Adept 3 is craftable by players... when I got mine, it's cuz an alchemist scribed the ancient teachings scroll. Those still drop, so if you find an alchemist that doesn't have the recipe, you might wanna look for one of those scrolls also. (I don't know if there's a book containing them all).</p><p>~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Hero of Maj'Dul</p><hr></blockquote><p>FYI, the Ancient Teachings scrolls (and all the level 50-59 Advanced Tradeskill books for that matter) are also available from one of the Court merchants in Maj'Dul if you have sufficient faction with the given Court (don't remember if ally is required, or just amiable). They all go for 8g40s each. For that reason, they're frequently also available on the Qeynos/Freeport brokers for even less than 8g. So if you run across an Alchemist that won't make it because they don't have the scroll, tell them that's a lame excuse, or better yet, offer to buy it for them as part of the Adept III creation fee! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></div>

Eono
09-18-2006, 11:28 PM
<P>The 55 ancient teachings imo is the first ancient teachings I'd upgrade to adept III or Master, both SoH and the Self rez are find at adept 1 (if used at all) considering the low usage lol</P> <P>Volume 6 has the 65 Special spells and the 70's (both regular and the upgrades for the level 50 spells)</P>

MeridianR
09-19-2006, 05:07 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Eono wrote:<div></div> <p>The 55 ancient teachings imo is the first ancient teachings I'd upgrade to adept III or Master, both SoH and the Self rez are find at adept 1 (if used at all) considering the low usage lol</p> <p>Volume 6 has the 65 Special spells and the 70's (both regular and the upgrades for the level 50 spells)</p><hr></blockquote>If you are tanking (Main, Off, Second, etc..) Sigil should be used everytime it's up.  It's well worth the upgrade.</div>

Eono
09-19-2006, 06:17 PM
Depends on your group I suppose. We run Paladin, Troub, Templar, Mystic, Wizzard, Warlock....ammends on the warlock for groups, ammends on the wizzard for solo, sigil not on the hot bar any longer for me :smileywink:

Boli32
09-19-2006, 06:44 PM
Its one of the few Ancient teachings that scales (give its a % not a finite number) so I would <i>certianly</i> upgrade this to AD3 at minimum.

OrcSlayer96
09-19-2006, 09:01 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MeridianR wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eono wrote:<BR> <P>The 55 ancient teachings imo is the first ancient teachings I'd upgrade to adept III or Master, both SoH and the Self rez are find at adept 1 (if used at all) considering the low usage lol</P> <P>Volume 6 has the 65 Special spells and the 70's (both regular and the upgrades for the level 50 spells)</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>If you are tanking (Main, Off, Second, etc..) Sigil should be used everytime it's up.  It's well worth the upgrade.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah i finally dusted that spell off a couple months ago and love it.  I was so [Removed for Content] off with the it works, no it doesnt work now with hate transfer spells that i shelved it for quite awhile.  When dealing with dps heavy groups, that spell is a godsend to use on pulls and oh sh&t situations.  Now if i can only find the Master 1 version of it...<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

Eono
09-19-2006, 11:02 PM
<DIV> <P><SPAN>Mine’s adept III but I made it back when Sigil was nullifying amends and causing us to need to recast it, that’s the main reason I shelved it. I guess I should dust mine off too, as long as it doesn’t conflict with amends any longer. :smileyvery-happy:</SPAN></P></DIV>

OrcSlayer96
09-19-2006, 11:16 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eono wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P><SPAN>Mine’s adept III but I made it back when Sigil was nullifying amends and causing us to need to recast it, that’s the main reason I shelved it. I guess I should dust mine off too, as long as it doesn’t conflict with amends any longer. :smileyvery-happy:</SPAN></P></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Heheh </P> <P>Sigil seems to fine, now it seems that amends is bugged some after the last update, if you cast amends for example: on warlock A, and Assassin B does his hate transfer on you afterwards, your amends drops.  If you recast amends you will still retain the assassin's hate and amends will work again.  Seen this happen only after live update 27...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

Shaidown
09-20-2006, 12:00 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eono wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P><SPAN>Mine’s adept III but I made it back when Sigil was nullifying amends and causing us to need to recast it, that’s the main reason I shelved it. I guess I should dust mine off too, as long as it doesn’t conflict with amends any longer. :smileyvery-happy:</SPAN></P></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Heheh </P> <P>Sigil seems to fine, now it seems that amends is bugged some after the last update, if you cast amends for example: on warlock A, and Assassin B does his hate transfer on you afterwards, your amends drops.  If you recast amends you will still retain the assassin's hate and amends will work again.  Seen this happen only after live update 27...<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>well...also.....you can put amends on the warlock, but if they pu their hate transfer buff on you, it overrides amends now......you won't receive a message about it or anything, it just wont work</P> <P>same thing with Wizzies and our anomalism, mine is nice for tanks, as it gives (at Adept3) 106 power back to the tank 10% of the time he gets hit, and now it transfers 3% of my hate to him as well.  However, regardless of order it is applied, it overrides amends, causing it to not work.</P> <P>so, with my pally in our groups now, the assassin puts their hate transfer on me, the wizzie puts theirs on me, and I put amends on the healer (or the necro pet)</P> <P>the power buff+the 2-3% hate transfer+the assassin hate transfer+amends on the healer is enough to keep mobs off the wizzie</P>