Starting fresh

[Alinon]

<DIV>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </DIV><p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class=date_text>09-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:04 PM</span>

[FlintAH]

<div><blockquote><hr>Alinon79 wrote:<div></div> <div>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </div><p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class="date_text">09-12-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Relearn what your skills do, they have probably changed.  Also if you dont upgrade your skills and gear you dont live long.</div>

[khufure]

<div><blockquote><hr>Alinon79 wrote:<div></div> <div>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </div><p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class="date_text">09-12-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Yes, we got nerfed quite a bit in LU13 (we're at 27 now).  It took me a while to get used to it, too.  The biggest differences are probably warding yourself and using group taunt (which is also a divine debuff).BTW It's easier & faster if you group up than try to solo.</div>

[FlintAH]

<div><blockquote><hr>khufure wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Alinon79 wrote:<div></div> <div>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </div><p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class="date_text">09-12-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Yes, we got nerfed quite a bit in LU13 (we're at 27 now).  It took me a while to get used to it, too.  The biggest differences are probably warding yourself and using group taunt (which is also a divine debuff).BTW It's easier & faster if you group up than try to solo.</div><hr></blockquote>It was only a nerf if your gear and skills sucked.  They made items and skill levels more important.</div>

[Alinon]

Ok I'll read the updates and try to figure things out. Now another question...is there a good Pally board out there? I was part of Paladins of Norrath and it was a good EQ1/EQ2 Pally resource. Where have all the good current, up to date resource sites gone? ohh and another quick question. What is this respec thing I keep hearing about?<p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class=date_text>09-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:58 AM</span>

[khufure]

<div><blockquote><hr>FlintAH wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>khufure wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>Alinon79 wrote:<div></div> <div>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </div><p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class="date_text">09-12-2006</span> <span class="time_text">02:04 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Yes, we got nerfed quite a bit in LU13 (we're at 27 now).  It took me a while to get used to it, too.  The biggest differences are probably warding yourself and using group taunt (which is also a divine debuff).BTW It's easier & faster if you group up than try to solo.</div><hr></blockquote>It was only a nerf if your gear and skills sucked.  They made items and skill levels more important.</div><hr></blockquote>I was around level 20 at that time in decent gear, the non-rare T3 crafted.  At level 30 I got feysteel and that helped a lot.  Not everyone was playing from start and level 50 with raid level gear at LU13.  For example, the author isn't.Drive through.</div>

[khufure]

<div><blockquote><hr>Alinon79 wrote:<div></div> <div></div>Ok I'll read the updates and try to figure things out. Now another question...is there a good Pally board out there? I was part of Paladins of Norrath and it was a good EQ1/EQ2 Pally resource. Where have all the good current, up to date resource sites gone? ohh and another quick question. What is this respec thing I keep hearing about?<p>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <span class="date_text">09-13-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:58 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>AAs or achievement ability is something that's been released with kingdom of sky expansion.  At level 20 with KOS you should start getting AAs.  Most paladins are crawling the INT line for spell criticals, the stamina line for tanking, and the STR line because they think it is good.  Well, maybe it is if you get an amazing axe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[FlintAH]

bah, go for hps and fear resistance.  the rest all suck.<div></div>

[ChopStix]

<P>why go the wisdom line.. if feared just crouch.. you dont go far like that!</P> <P> </P> <P>i split my aa's str for the haste, sta for melee crits, int for the spell and heal crits..  it also helped alot.. i had the wisdom line full and it sucked..</P>

[Turb]

Yeah, no point spending 24AAs when you can just hit 'c' <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[FlintAH]

<div><blockquote><hr>ChopStix wrote:<div></div> <p>why go the wisdom line.. if feared just crouch.. you dont go far like that!</p> <p>i split my aa's str for the haste, sta for melee crits, int for the spell and heal crits..  it also helped alot.. i had the wisdom line full and it sucked..</p><hr></blockquote>It gives you time to throw intercede, ward, heal, and possibly loh when the healers get feared, which can be raid saving.  And how can you pull if you get feared off on a tangent.</div>

[ChopStix]

<P>if you get feared your already fighting, so i hope your not trying to pull again already engaged in an epic contest... </P> <P> </P> <P>plus if your tanking, i hope your not tanking in a wide open area.. i usually back in a corner and tank there, but i dont main tank in raids ,i'm main assist so that makes a difference..</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> I've been feared one time ever, deep in Labs, and i was crouched and in a corner so i didnt go anywhere.. i would rather have my brimstone critting at 1400 per target or better, and my heals critting every other time if not more.. and  my ca's also..</P>

[Alinon]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Alinon79 wrote:<BR> Ok I'll read the updates and try to figure things out. Now another question...is there a good Pally board out there? I was part of Paladins of Norrath and it was a good EQ1/EQ2 Pally resource. Where have all the good current, up to date resource sites gone? ohh and another quick question. What is this respec thing I keep hearing about? <P>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-13-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:58 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Wow this got way derailed.....I'm only lvl 34 and I don't have the AA stuff to deal with yet. Can anyone awnser the above questions?</DIV>

[Fatuus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Alinon79 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well after a year and a half off I started playing around on EQ2 again. Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do. How have things changed since I have been away? Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow? I feel like a utter n00b here and any help would be very much appreciated. The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to? </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Alinon79 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-12-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:04 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'll try to answer your questions specifically since others have gotten "off course"</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Now the first thing that strikes me is the difficulty I have been having with mobs. Have all mobs gotten buffed or have paladins been nurffed? I am currently a lvl 33 Dwarf pally /34 Armourer and I'm kinda lost on where to go or what to do.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffffff>Yes the fighting styles have changed drastically, so has the way gear conned to you as a player. You used to have to get new gear every 3 lvls or so way back in the day, but now you can get gear (generally) at lvls 20, 30, 40, 50 that will get you thru most if not all of your next 10 levels. As some of the other posters have already stated, the game has become very very gear oriented.</FONT></P> <P>Also, Paladins used to be a much better soloing class before LU13 since they could actually DPS pretty good back then...now we are the worst of all the fighter, scouts, and mages DPS wise...a good fury could give a paladin a good run for their money DPS wise. What does this mean, it means we suck at soloing pretty much, even with good gear. I have nearly all fabled armor, weapons, and jewerly and it takes me still forever to kill something...and even then it sucks a ton of power from me. I would strongly recommend you level your armorer to lvl 39 at least and craft yourself all legendary feysteel armor to get your pally to lvl 40. Thats one big thing that will help you survive soloing. Another thing is player crafted imbued weapons...for a paladin they can be a life saver because its extra much needed DPS that doesn't cost you any power to use.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Is there a known line of lvl/gear progression I could follow?</FONT></P> <P>Yes, if you are a quest hound there are some items you could go for, but honestly with the advent of player crafted imbued items....all the heritage reward quest items are pretty much worthless when compared to them. There are a lot of zones that drop some gear which would be useful to you...theres a nice chest that drops in Ruins of Varsoon from one of the enraged skelly encounters (lvl 32 required) and another nice chest that drops in Runnyeye (lvl 39 required) from the mess sergeant named I believe. Quest wise theres no gear really worth your time until you get close to lvl 60 and you can finally start working on the clayedmore quest line which rewards players with some awesome tanking gear rewards. Basically stick with player crafted and learn the zones where items can and can't drop.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>How have things changed since I have been away?</FONT></P> <P>Basically before LU 13 the paladin was the worst tank in the game...kinda laughable really. A paladin couldn't hold aggro against anyone even if they wanted to. They had nice DPS capabilities and while not the best had good group utilities with some of their buffs. Since the LU 13 change we have become more defensively oriented with better heals and much better aggro control techniques. A DPS class can still pull aggro on mobs from a paladin...but a skilled paladin now has all the tools they need to maintain aggro in a fight even against determined DPSers. Spell quality and level now also play a more important role then before...with mobs resisting spells more often. Also a big change is something called spell crits...this can increase the damage done by you or a mob on an attack or spell signifigantly.</P> <P>Lastly, int wasn't a huge factor before LU 13 but since then it factors into how much damage half your spells do. Now crusaders (like bards) must look for gear that balances ALL stats versus typical warriors that can ignore int and go straight for STR.</P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>The last time I played splitpaw was all the rave....now where to?</FONT></P> <P>Well, obviously 2 expansion packs came out since you left...so those have gotten a lot of popularity. Also they reworked a ton of zones to make it more interesting and cool to fight there (lots more masters drop from named in those zones). Level up and explore a little.</P>

[FlintAH]

<div><blockquote><hr>ChopStix wrote:<div></div> <p>if you get feared your already fighting, so i hope your not trying to pull again already engaged in an epic contest... </p> <p>plus if your tanking, i hope your not tanking in a wide open area.. i usually back in a corner and tank there, but i dont main tank in raids ,i'm main assist so that makes a difference..</p> <p> I've been feared one time ever, deep in Labs, and i was crouched and in a corner so i didnt go anywhere.. i would rather have my brimstone critting at 1400 per target or better, and my heals critting every other time if not more.. and  my ca's also..</p><hr></blockquote>You can get feared on the pull stupid.  If you run away from the tank on the pull you are dead and you take armor dmg.</div>

[Alinon]

<P>Thank you Fatuus for answering my questions and staying on target.... :smileywink:</P> <P>One more question...where are the good player run pally boards at. I was looking for my old PoN boards but they are way out dated. Are there any up to date pally boards/sites?</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> FlintAH wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ChopStix wrote:<BR> <P>if you get feared your already fighting, so i hope your not trying to pull again already engaged in an epic contest... </P> <P> </P> <P>plus if your tanking, i hope your not tanking in a wide open area.. i usually back in a corner and tank there, but i dont main tank in raids ,i'm main assist so that makes a difference..</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> I've been feared one time ever, deep in Labs, and i was crouched and in a corner so i didnt go anywhere.. i would rather have my brimstone critting at 1400 per target or better, and my heals critting every other time if not more.. and  my ca's also..</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You can get feared on the pull stupid.  If you run away from the tank on the pull you are dead and you take armor dmg.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I stopped looking at the wisdom line when they gave you the ability to cure your fear effects with the common potion, plus you can chug those for a 10 second immunity on the pull.<BR>

[FlintAH]

I tend to use the immune to root one, which is on the same timer.<div></div>