pallys= thebest in PVP

[holypaladin28]

<DIV>another eason why i love my pally.  the other day i was near the griff at nek docks i got jumped by 3 yellowconned players.  i got hit with assissante and 2 IC and i still managed to run all the wya up the docks and get to ts.  where 5 lvl 58 players sat waiting for them to zone.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>how many other classes can take that kind of abuse and live </DIV>

[enjoilab]

<DIV>true i got hit with 3 dispatchs 1 IC and 1 debilitate and survived...with DA on of course...</DIV>

[Diern]

Survivability doesnt = best at PVP. Its a good trait to have but not the end all be all. Paladins tend to be fame/ xp farms for me :smileyvery-happy:

[enjoilab]

and how are you??

[enjoilab]

and what server because i will give you a run for your money on venekor

[enjoilab]

should change the title to paladum=thebestestinpvp...kthanksbye

[enjoilab]

or besterist pvpers eva

[MeridianR]

<div></div><div></div><p>Message Edited by MeridianR on <span class=date_text>09-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:49 AM</span>

[MeridianR]

...and do people actually think, being able to run away is PvP?  Grow a sac, and fight, don't run away.  If you die, tough, get up and go again.People care so much about status, and crap that they run all the time and consider that pvp....<div></div>

[treedo]

High resistances due to high wisdom, 2 knockbacks (3 with sta line aa)immune to fear with wis linevery nice emergancy heal and wards, redemption/ammends line that pulls targetingtaunt over time that continues to taunt target even after taunt is ready to cast again[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cool RP potential!besterist? that can be argued, we don't solo well, no evac, no invis, no root or snare (allows people run away way too often) and with out an "I win" combat art we usually just see the scout evac away inbetween our stuns. but in a group, totally under-rated and easily one of the best tanks anyone could fight behind.<div></div>

[Crib92]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MeridianR wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>Message Edited by MeridianR on <SPAN class=date_text>09-11-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:49 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Why did you edit your quote?  :smileyvery-happy:

[MeridianR]

<div><blockquote><hr>Crib92 wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> MeridianR wrote: <div></div> <div></div> <p>Message Edited by MeridianR on <span class="date_text">09-11-2006</span> <span class="time_text">08:49 AM</span> </p><hr> </blockquote>Why did you edit your quote?  :smileyvery-happy:<hr></blockquote>If you saw what I originally said, then you know why....lol, I like posting during my day at work....and I think that one would have banned me for a bit... <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[ChopStix]

<P>you didnt add lack of dps :]`</P> <P>have you ventured into TT, BarrenSky, or Bonemire yet?   you still locked at lvl53?</P>

[holypaladin28]

<DIV>you dont play a pally anymore go back to your zerker forums and leave the hard mode toons to us pros </DIV>

[Kaleyen]

I play my Pally on PvP in an Exile guild...solo wise eh not so hot.  But give me a group or a raid to work with and I'll rock your socks off!<div></div>

[holypaladin28]

<DIV>yup solo i can take a few classes but in my normal pvp group watch out</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>though i did have a few greens playing bell hoping games last night so we had to block it to teach them a lesson oh well though </DIV>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>No.</DIV>

[Diern]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> enjoilabel wrote:<BR> and what server because i will give you a run for your money on venekor<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>Your in luck im also on venekor. Now providing its a fair fight solo on on one (which it rarely is), look for the human shadowknight with long braided raven hair gloating over your corpse.... :robottongue:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dont ever remember falling to a paladin one when this was the case.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now if you bring 5 of your buddies along to help which often seems to be the case when ever Im out alone in the wilderness with you q's, and you think that means your best in pvp ever, think again =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now in group on group pvp, sure you paladins shine in these situations, but most tanks do....</DIV><p>Message Edited by Diernes on <span class=date_text>09-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:35 PM</span>

[enjoilab]

<DIV>whats your name then i am Balios</DIV>

[Kaleyen]

And I'm LilukBring it<div></div>

[Crib92]

I expect screen shots of the smack down.  How ever it ends up.

[holypaladin28]

<DIV>let get ready rummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm blllllllllllllllllllllllllle</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>its on like donkey kong up here in this [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] </DIV>

[Fatuus]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> treedog1 wrote:<BR>High resistances due to high wisdom, <BR><BR>2 knockbacks (3 with sta line aa)<BR><BR>immune to fear with wis line<BR><BR>very nice emergancy heal and wards, <BR><BR>redemption/ammends line that pulls targeting<BR><BR>taunt over time that continues to taunt target even after taunt is ready to cast again<BR><BR>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cool RP potential!<BR><BR>besterist? that can be argued, we don't solo well, no evac, no invis, no root or snare (allows people run away way too often) and with out an "I win" combat art we usually just see the scout evac away inbetween our stuns. but in a group, totally under-rated and easily one of the best tanks anyone could fight behind.<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Not trying to be picky, but while the paladin has 3 knockbacks, what's often overlooked is what other skills we can bring to the table.</P> <P>We have in addition to the knockbacks 2 stuns (1 AOE based), 2 interupts (1 AOE based and able to be cast when moving), and a third AOE that does a HUGE dispell on any target in AOE range. I love using the last spell against priests.</P> <P>This doesn't include our normal attacks that heal ourselves or normal nukes. If you go high WIS like I did you will very often resist spells (lol imagine resisting Ice nova everytime its cast) when they are cast...this makes it 3X harder for casters to land stuff on you.</P> <P>Scouts can be a problem, but not generally. If you time and land your stuns and knockbacks properly, its very difficult for a scout to get an attack off on you that will cause a lot of damage. They often doen't focus on mitigation...so just a couple strikes will kill them more often then not.</P> <P>Personally, I very very rarely lose PVP fights. Generally when I lose I get bored and stop trying. The paladins greatest strength in PVP is their ability to outlast just about any oponent, if geared properly for it. There is no class out there that can 1 shot a paladin thats geared adaquitely, and if we have our heals up we're instantly back at 100% health facing a scout who has all their big nuke timers down. No other fighter can really state this.</P>

[Kaleyen]

The only scout I really have issues with is the Brig because I'm stunned the entire fight.<div></div>

[Diern]

<P>Actually Balios Im fairly certain Ive laid the smacketh down on you before :robottongue:</P> <P>Too bad I havent got a screen of it. Anyway by the looks of your sig your much higher level than me now. But Im on a mission to level at the moment, so Im sure the time will come ...</P> <P>In my experience with paladins, yeah you guys are tough and take a long time to kill. But to make a statement that your the best at PVP is a fairly arrogant and deluded one..... Typical of your kind I guess haha</P>

[enjoilab]

Liluk wants a branch of the Christmas Tree?!?!?! its a dance off....and you WILL be served....

[enjoilab]

have you now...you do realize i have been lvl 70 for over 3 months now and have the best mit in qeynos and extreme resists when needed...4944 mit ftw (without QC stupid long quests....)

[Diern]

Yep, and ive been playing on venekor since the day it opened, but of late I havent had time to play as much so have slipped behind the ball game. Im only level 42 atm

[holypaladin28]

<DIV>i told you abel stop killing freeps im not catching up to you and i dont like that. i wanna be number one and your the only one that PVPS with your pally alot in the top 8 for worldwide pally </DIV>

[Kaleyen]

Give me a month Balios and I'll have more mit then you <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[enjoilab]

<DIV>10 dollars says you will not...not being rude but i dont know if you can even do it in a month with only a few pieces of relic or firebrand...if you can ill be shamed forever...</DIV>

[Lairdragna]

/sigh and this is why I hate PvP... nothing more than waving your e-peens around. <span>:smileysad:</span>I can appreciate the skill it takes to be successful in PvP, its the constant juvenile trash talk that really makes you look foolish.<div></div>

[enjoilab]

<DIV>i am just kidding around relax you care bear <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ooh and  btw i took the carebear test and i was the funshine bear w/e that means...</DIV>

[Kaleyen]

<div><blockquote><hr>Lairdragna wrote:/sigh and this is why I hate PvP... nothing more than waving your e-peens around. <span>:smileysad:</span>I can appreciate the skill it takes to be successful in PvP, its the constant juvenile trash talk that really makes you look foolish.<div></div><hr></blockquote>I'm a Pally on a PvP server...we don't have e-peens...</div>

[treedo]

/waggles_EpeenMy anonimous toon can kill you no sweat..... that next time you get smacked, that's my other toon.<div></div>

[holypaladin28]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kaleyen wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lairdragna wrote:<BR>/sigh and this is why I hate PvP... nothing more than waving your e-peens around. <SPAN>:smileysad:</SPAN><BR><BR>I can appreciate the skill it takes to be successful in PvP, its the constant juvenile trash talk that really makes you look foolish.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm a Pally on a PvP server...we don't have e-peens...<FONT color=#ff3300>rofl true that </FONT><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[enjoilab]

hahah Liluk rock me socks

[Vathranen]

<P>Guess what... I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack</P> <P>Just to clear some of the myths here - Amends only has a 5% chance to force target switch in PvP. Worthless.</P> <P>Single target taunt-over-time only works in PvE. Click the PvP box, it's just a 3 second taunt like all the other fighters (except ours doesn't interrupt).</P>

[treedo]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Vathranen wrote:<div></div> <p>Guess what... I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaack</p> <p>Just to clear some of the myths here - Amends only has a 5% chance to force target switch in PvP. Worthless. <font color="#66ff00"></font></p><p><font color="#66ff00">Not saying it's an "I Win" skill but it's not something to forget about. 5% is 1 in 20, and saying it takes 10 shots to kill your healer (which is insanely lowballing the hit's he'll take from a rogue or other melee) 50% of the time it will kick in. so even if you are failing to do you job, this can save you.</font></p> <p>Single target taunt-over-time only works in PvE. Click the PvP box, it's just a 3 second taunt like all the other fighters (except ours doesn't interrupt).<font color="#66ff00"> </font></p><p><font color="#66ff00">Sorry dude, you got screwed, because my single target is ToT's even when checking the pvp box and it changes target every 3 second for 9 seconds which is sweet cause it has an 8 second cast time.</font></p><p><font color="#66ff00">AND our shield bash is a taunt, stun, knockback </font></p><hr></blockquote></div><p>Message Edited by treedog1 on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:44 PM</span>

[Vathranen]

<DIV>Which is another complaint of mine - why is Paladin the only class that has his biggest taunt as part of an attack? I have a hell of a time landing hits as it is, don't make my taunt depend on it too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would agree 10 hits is lowballing. I say Amends is broken. I have a 5% chance that Decapitate is going to force the assassin to target me after he kills the mage. That's just not high enough. I don't generally have amends on the healer as they don't generate enough aggro, but even then I don't know any healers that can live through three hits let alone ten.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I logged in to check, and you're right the Clarion Call line does force them to target you for 9 seconds. That's very impressive. I would swear that's new. I'm sure I checked before and found that it was just a 3 second taunt.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Vathranen on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:10 PM</span>

[enjoilab]

agreed that amends = broke as me...but the taunt over time has been there forever

[Hamervelder]

<div><blockquote><hr>Kaleyen wrote:The only scout I really have issues with is the Brig because I'm stunned the entire fight.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Ditto.  Ouch.  I think I was 68 or 69 paladin and got into a scrap with a 70 brigand.  I did manage to take him as a 70 SK though.  Ten seconds of stun immunity is all it takes, apparently, to squish a scout.</div>