Lyceum Dps

[VainDragon2]

<DIV>Hi, i'm trying to establish a high-end baseline for DPS for an entire lyceum run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Could any high-end raiding Pally post your DPS for a complete Lyceum run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks.</DIV>

[Boke]

<DIV>Pallys can dps?!?!?!111 When was this?!?:smileywink:</DIV>

[FlintAH]

It is all effected by your strat, the raid makeup and the quality of the other players as well as your skills etc....  If you are ranged fighting or meleeing etc....  How many debuffers you have.  To just ask for a baseline dps for a zone w/o knowing raid makeup, strat used etc.... It is hard to really give you one.  If you want a general baseline anything less than 10k on any mob is pretty low.<div></div>

[DarkRanger77]

Well I can tell you mine was around 800 total....topping out at 1k on some fights. This is done with full fabled full masters and lots of int and str. On the fights for 1k I am talking about are groups of 3 undead droags, I normally throw up consecrate aura (our long aoe that continually goes off) along with draog master and skeletong master strike procs. Then throw up all aoes i tag up devout strike and refusal of conviction first since those are longest recast and one is a DOT. Then well just hit everything you got. This is not possible without a good group setup as well. Gotta have a dps melee group for this, dirge with dps AA lines, had a zerker, and a bunch of melee dps. It is possible to do decent dps with the right group and masters.

[Canel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkRanger77 wrote:<BR> Well I can tell you mine was around 800 total....topping out at 1k on some fights. This is done with full fabled full masters and lots of int and str. On the fights for 1k I am talking about are groups of 3 undead droags, I normally throw up consecrate aura (our long aoe that continually goes off) along with draog master and skeletong master strike procs. Then throw up all aoes i tag up devout strike and refusal of conviction first since those are longest recast and one is a DOT. Then well just hit everything you got. This is not possible without a good group setup as well. Gotta have a dps melee group for this, dirge with dps AA lines, had a zerker, and a bunch of melee dps. It is possible to do decent dps with the right group and masters.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I like to say this hits the point on the head alot--but also any groups w/a brawler/bard class can pump up our haste/dps--Middle to top of the parse.

[VainDragon2]

<DIV>thanks Dark, that's what i was looking for though my original post probably wasn't that clear.</DIV>

[Perfectio]

about 1-1100<div></div>

[MeridianR]

<DIV>Group makeup, and proc's you have on you is the difference between 700 dps in LoA and 1k dps in LoA....it is as simple as that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With no procs, and just dps / haste mods we can probably do 700-750 if you went down the Int AA line....this is full Offensive mode.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Add in some procs, and it goes up.</DIV>

[Fatuus]

<P>To be honest I need to scale back the DPS I do in lyceum since when I have my main on I am often put in the warlock group to pull aggro from them. I use Sigil constantly, consecrated aura, and amends on one of the warlocks. This gives them massive DPS capabilities far greater then what would have normally been safe against 3+ mob encounters (changes their DPS output from around 600 to 1.4k each). The only safe way for me to do this is if I am defensively geared (lol since I always get aggro from the heroic mobs and sometimes the epic ones)...therefore I do around 400 DPS while adding another 1.3k dps from hate transfers to myself.</P> <P>Basically, while everyone wants to measure how much "DPS" they bring to a raid, its often difficult to see how much additional DPS you can bring while being there since I allow other caster classes to DPS harder.</P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fatuus wrote:<BR> <P>To be honest I need to scale back the DPS I do in lyceum since when I have my main on I am often put in the warlock group to pull aggro from them. I use Sigil constantly, consecrated aura, and amends on one of the warlocks. This gives them massive DPS capabilities far greater then what would have normally been safe against 3+ mob encounters (changes their DPS output from around 600 to 1.4k each). The only safe way for me to do this is if I am defensively geared (lol since I always get aggro from the heroic mobs and sometimes the epic ones)...therefore I do around 400 DPS while adding another 1.3k dps from hate transfers to myself.</P> <P>Basically, while everyone wants to measure how much "DPS" they bring to a raid, its often difficult to see how much additional DPS you can bring while being there since I allow other caster classes to DPS harder.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I hear ya Fatuus, in normal raids lately, if i am amendsing our highest geared warlock, i hope to have the troubadour in the group for hate reduction also along with the guardian's moderate to peak out that warlock's damage.  He is the most dps heavy one, the others are usally good with just amends.  Our main wizard tho is needing the amends plus troubador/guardian moderate too tho.  Either way i look at it, if my amends is needed like that i usually go defense plus adamantine doomhammer/deflecter shield and moderate dps.  I want to reduce the hate on the casters, but i dont want to turn the mob my way from the tank and have the epic barrage half our raid.<BR>

[Anariale]

<P><FONT size=2>Merged Trash Parses, End combat on 3 seconds of downtime<BR>Pretty decent run.  We could do better.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=2>8/27 Lyceum<BR><BR>Allies: (29:02) 33507182 | 19234.89 [Preynar-Fusion-28910]<BR>Ceriaton -- DAMAGE 2670120 -- EXTDPS 1532.79 -- CRITS 881 -- HEALED 0 -- Swashy<BR>Staraya -- DAMAGE 2291285 -- EXTDPS 1315.32 -- CRITS 714 -- HEALED 689 -- Conj<BR>Preynar -- DAMAGE 2230131 -- EXTDPS 1280.21 -- CRITS 465 -- HEALED 0 -- Wizard<BR>Normack -- DAMAGE 2228825 -- EXTDPS 1279.46 -- CRITS 899 -- HEALED 3883 -- Monk  <<< Monks suck, I read it on the internet<BR>Approved -- DAMAGE 2151152 -- EXTDPS 1234.88 -- CRITS 426 -- HEALED 157 -- Ranger  <<< Rangers suck, I read it on the internet<BR>Athieren -- DAMAGE 2109681 -- EXTDPS 1211.07 -- CRITS 466 -- HEALED 59767 -- Necro<BR>Squal -- DAMAGE 2076440 -- EXTDPS 1191.99 -- CRITS 566 -- HEALED 0 -- Warlock <BR>Nomak -- DAMAGE 1842423 -- EXTDPS 1057.65 -- CRITS 396 -- HEALED 0 -- Ranger  <<< Needs longbow<BR>Kall -- DAMAGE 1805768 -- EXTDPS 1036.61 -- CRITS 353 -- HEALED 2148 -- Dirge  <<< Dirge ftw<BR>Darton -- DAMAGE 1763877 -- EXTDPS 1012.56 -- CRITS 538 -- HEALED 11799 -- Guardian  <<< yey, its a me!<BR>Cyberhawk -- DAMAGE 1697977 -- EXTDPS 974.73 -- CRITS 705 -- HEALED 0 -- Brigand   <<< Recruit who needs respec<BR>Frozn -- DAMAGE 1650636 -- EXTDPS 947.55 -- CRITS 840 -- HEALED 1732 -- Bruiser      <<< Recruit<BR>Remy -- DAMAGE 1366512 -- EXTDPS 784.45 -- CRITS 218 -- HEALED 7767 -- Coercer <BR>Darkimus -- DAMAGE 1355936 -- EXTDPS 778.38 -- CRITS 1099 -- HEALED 1442 -- SK   <<< Typical DPS here<BR>Pidgin -- DAMAGE 1243415 -- EXTDPS 713.79 -- CRITS 273 -- HEALED 490 -- Dirge<BR>Vylia -- DAMAGE 1173101 -- EXTDPS 673.42 -- CRITS 58 -- HEALED 0 -- Illusionist<BR>Dujoaki -- DAMAGE 1123791 -- EXTDPS 645.12 -- CRITS 311 -- HEALED 64282 -- Paladin  <<< Typical DPS here<BR>Jordinn -- DAMAGE 831015 -- EXTDPS 477.05 -- CRITS 227 -- HEALED 0 -- Troub<BR>Raago -- DAMAGE 616852 -- EXTDPS 354.11 -- CRITS 48 -- HEALED 102640 -- Fury <BR>Nermal -- DAMAGE 408216 -- EXTDPS 234.34 -- CRITS 216 -- HEALED 120971 -- Inq<BR>Haidden -- DAMAGE 236878 -- EXTDPS 135.98 -- CRITS 77 -- HEALED 144296 -- Warden<BR>Larconzor -- DAMAGE 209137 -- EXTDPS 120.06 -- CRITS 56 -- HEALED 206233 -- Mystic<BR>Rapack -- DAMAGE 205110 -- EXTDPS 117.74 -- CRITS 93 -- HEALED 231327 -- Templar<BR>Tophu -- DAMAGE 184144 -- EXTDPS 105.71 -- CRITS 78 -- HEALED 231470 -- Defiler</FONT></P>

[Anariale]

<P><FONT color=#ffcc00></FONT><FONT color=#ffcc00><EM>Basically, while everyone wants to measure how much "DPS" they bring to a raid, its often difficult to see how much additional DPS you can bring while being there since I allow other caster classes to DPS harder.</EM></FONT></P> <P>The thing is though, with a Troub + Coercer deaggro buffs (40% and 28%), they wont pull aggro anyways.  Id rather fill the Paladin spot with another high DPS class that makes use of those buffs.</P> <P>W</P>

[PolarBear77]

Omg you are the most anti-pally person that post on these forums man .. you act like your a pally at heart.. but i have never seen you post anything + about our class ... it always .. well we can't do this we can't do that ... we suck at this we suck at that .. omg i think it is you suck bro ..........  ask any of the high end raid pally's if we can tank, if we can dps, if we can spot heal ..... ask them, ask Itoock, Phov or even Xoen... bet you any of those guys will tell you how it is ..... we are at disadvantages ya.... but deal with it .....they all do..... check out there guilds .....guilds with names like theres don't keep worthless [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] classes around it is as simple as that.<p>Message Edited by PolarBear77 on <span class=date_text>09-02-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:25 AM</span>

[Nevar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fatuus wrote:<BR> <P>To be honest I need to scale back the DPS I do in lyceum since when I have my main on I am often put in the warlock group to pull aggro from them. I use Sigil constantly, consecrated aura, and amends on one of the warlocks. This gives them massive DPS capabilities far greater then what would have normally been safe against 3+ mob encounters (changes their DPS output from around 600 to 1.4k each). The only safe way for me to do this is if I am defensively geared (lol since I always get aggro from the heroic mobs and sometimes the epic ones)...therefore I do around 400 DPS while adding another 1.3k dps from hate transfers to myself.</P> <P>Basically, while everyone wants to measure how much "DPS" they bring to a raid, its often difficult to see how much additional DPS you can bring while being there since I allow other caster classes to DPS harder.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Ya know, I have never totally understood why people actually try and save the wizards and warlocks from dieing. lol me and kobal sit in vent and laugh at them when they did and hell they usually do to. Id rather have them die then pull aggro on me when I got my underworld legs and the cryptic on, and most of the time that would kill me. Let the squishies die! Unless your guild suffers in the dps department and needs to resort to this. But letting squishies die rocks.<BR>