Paladins, I feel your pain.

[Fazzarya]

<DIV>So while reading this thread:</DIV> <DIV> <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=81352" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=items&message.id=81352</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I realized you guys really want some love. I can understand that and for the most part I agree with the fact that Paladins need more to fill one of the "tank" roles in a guild. Now I know for a fact Paladins can tank anything I can as a berserker, I know because we have one who rocks it fullspeed, but there is definitely no *moment* where you guys shine. While thinking about this I came up with an AA line that I think would own for Paladins, would make me somewhat jealous as a Zerker, bu I feel really complements what a Paladin is and should bring to the table.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a non paladin, I don't assume to know your class in and out, and therefore appreciate any input to or about my idea/s.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <P>I thought the downside to the buckler line was that we were forced to look like wimpy-mystics while fightng with a buckler :smileywink:</P> <P> </P> <P>I think Paladins should get a class specific AA line something like:</P> <P><U>1st tier - Disarm:</U></P> <P>When engaging the enemy the Paladin uses his superior weapons knowledge to disarm his opponents of their armament. Their opponent is forced to recover their weapon while defending against attacks.</P> <P>-A powerful frontal attack that  decreases the targets DPS by 2% per level for 5 combat rounds. Targets Defense is lowered by 5% per level for 5 combat rounds.</P> <P>-Power cost: 0. Casting time: .8 Recovery time: 1.5 minutes</P> <P>-Must have Great sword or Hammer equipped.</P> <P><U>2nd tier - Loyal Defender:</U></P> <P>Through tireless exercise and devotion to their cause the Paladin has mastered the use of the two handed weapon. Weilding large weapons with the ease of a one hander the Paladin incites fear in the heart of his enemy and courage in the souls of their comrades.</P> <P>-When using a two handed weapon the Paladin receives a 2.5% mitigation bonus per level.</P> <P><U>3rd tier - Tireless exchange:</U></P> <P>Fueled by their passion and holy fervor a Paladin is able to exhaust themselves both mentally and physically beyond their normal capacity in defense of their comrades.</P> <P>-When the Paladin falls below 75% health and power their healing spells power cost is reduced by 3% per level. When health and power drops below 50% their healing spells power cost is reduced by 4.5% per level.</P> <P><U>4th tier - Mastery of Arms:</U></P> <P>In the heat of battle, surrounded by friends and enemies, the Paladin finds his true calling. Laying waste to their enemies and protecting their friends.</P> <P>-The Paladins dps is increased 2.8 percent per level. The Paladins Critical heals are increased 2% per level.</P> <P><U>5th tier - Holy Campaign:</U></P> <P>Only the most dedicated Paladins understand where they stand in the eyes of their Gods. With rightousness on their side the Paladin brings to his comrades the devotion of the most noble of warriors. A true combatant that will spare no enemy and never abandon a friend.</P> <P>- Paladin is immune to stun and fear effects </P> <P>- Paladin has a 8% chance to proc "Holy Campaign" on  succesfull melee attack. Heals all group members for 340 hps and cure 8 levels of arcane effects</P></DIV>

[Geekyone]

<P>Something like that would be nice.</P> <P>Thanks for thinking of us.</P>

[uzhiel feathered serpe]

<DIV>Its nice to see some warriors actually do care. :smileytongue:</DIV>

[Turb]

I like your creativity. There should be I feel more oomph in our end of line AA skills.For example, fear immunity doesn't count for much now. Add charm immunity, even if just for a period, or just a big mental resist buff - by the power of the Gods your faith resists the effects - and there would be more places where a pally would situationally shine. That would fit the crusader theme.I wonder what the subclass specific AA's will bring in the next expansion?

[Monfar]

You should go work for SOE lol.nice job

[treedo]

<div><blockquote><hr>Turb0T wrote:I like your creativity. There should be I feel more oomph in our end of line AA skills.For example, fear immunity doesn't count for much now. Add charm immunity, even if just for a period, or just a big mental resist buff - by the power of the Gods your faith resists the effects - and there would be more places where a pally would situationally shine. That would fit the crusader theme.I wonder what the subclass specific AA's will bring in the next expansion?<hr></blockquote>Just to clarify, on blue servers immunity to fear doesn't count for much, BUT on a pvp server, those Necros Defilers and bards casting it can realy mess up your group when you go running off. just 18 more aa point <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Dethnel O'Bradain 32 Paladin of Sanctuary on Venekor</div>

[enjoilab]

i dont have it and i never get feared...i just get 3 dispatchs and 1 IN right off the bat

[Vulkan_NTooki]

<P>The mit bonus prolly a lil high.. hehe</P> <P> </P> <P>2.5 x 8 = 20 %</P> <P> </P> <P>20 % of 5000 mit = 1000 mit.. that would mean 6k+ mit self buffed.. :smileyvery-happy:</P>

[Vulkan_NTooki]

and tier 1 is stat increase.. but other than that I would pay 10p to respec into 4,8,8,8.. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[BortonX]

<P>Great ideas.  Another could be:</P> <P>Holy Smite  </P> <P>The Paladin's devotion to good grants additional damage ability to the group against evil targets.</P> <P>Each point invested grants a 2% chance to proc 300-500 dmg against evil creatures.  45 sec duration with a 1.5min recast.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Borton, 50 Pally, Nektulos</P>

[Kenji11]

<DIV>This thread got me thinking a bit, and I figure why not have an AA that truly fits the lore of the class... or more importantly, the god. Though first, we'd have to revamp the entire wisdom line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rank 1: Increases wisdom by 6 per rank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rank 2: When a sword or greatsword is equipped, the paladin's group gains additional accuracy with all attacks. (+7 crushing/piercing/slashing/subjugation/distruption/ranged/etc per rank)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rank 3: All of the paladin's spells and CAs have thier base numbers increased. (.5% per rank)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rank 4: The paladin's weapon shall be their foremost defense. (Increases parry by 5 per rank)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rank 5: The Spirit of Mithanial Marr... (Grants the paladin the ability to weild any 2h weapon as a 1h, allowing for the use of a kite shield in thier offhand. Also grants the paladin a secondary ability.</DIV> <DIV><U>Invocation of Marr</U>: Can be toggled on and off. no casting time, no recovery time, no recast time. Drains 10% power instantly, and 1% every 3 seconds. Gives the paladin an additional 20% haste, 20% dps, and 20% chance to double attack.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Basically my idea with this line is to eventually invoke the powers of the paladin god. The first rank brings us closer to enlightenment. The second aids our group. The third increases our power, though by a small amount, allowing us to become better tanks/healers/dps. The fourth increases our avoidance and helps compensate for the parry that we lack.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The final AA is a bit weird, its essentially 2. The first one is simple, if you have a kite shield equipped, you can use a 2h weapon as if it were a 1h. Same delay, same stats, same damage, but you get a shield too. This idea comes from that whenever you see Mithanial Marr on the zoning screen, he always has a kite shield and a 2h claymore, so we should get the same. This would also help even out the dps difference between us and warriors.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The second part of the final AA gives us a nice burst of dps, at the cost of percentage power. When fully buffed, you would need about 117 in combat mana regen in order to counter the power drain, thats not likely gonna happen, so this isnt something that can be used too often, and the large initial power cost means you wont be likely to spam it. Essentially one could keep this maintained for about 4:30 at most, but if you are using your CAs, like taunts for when you are tanking, then it will not last for too long.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kenji1134 on <span class=date_text>08-31-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:57 AM</span>

[Sabrekong]

<DIV>The whole mit bonus for wielding a 2 hander is badass....I really hope we get some AAs later on that separate us from the warriors in the sense of us using a 2 handed weapon and it count as us using a sword / shield combo...I'll solo Naggy for a chance at having something like that (Heck, the Paladin epic weapons in EQ1 were 2 handers that acted as a sword / shield combo!)</DIV>

[Feydakeen]

<DIV>Great idea and thanks for the support !!!</DIV>

[PolarBear77]

ZOMG!!!! that aa line Kenji would be ownage....  it would actually give us a aa line worth two monkey shiz

[Lairdragna]

If I could become a seahorse I would have your children!<div></div>

[therodge]

i would give 20AA points easy to weild a 2hander and a kite sheild i would bow to the god that is sow for bestowing that power, i would probobly at that point wake up and crse soes name to that fact that they had my dream and ripped it from my hands