No Essances Made last night

[madha]

<DIV>Hello druring a RAid ill make about a stack of devouit essances. Last night the pally MT labs and the otehr pally made 0 essances, i know on tast we will not use them anymore, but we need them right now, not sure whats going on. I had to trade a stack to the other pally so he coul heal..  Anyone else getting this</DIV>

[FlintAH]

If he is having to use that heal on a raid, then you need better healers.  And they still work fine.<div></div>

[madha]

Nm i got my normal 2 stacks in today.  Our guild pretty much functions on 3 main healers the rest get the left over newb healers.  As a Pally i've out healed healers. 

[Anariale]

<DIV>You have some crap-tastic healers then.</DIV>

[Anzak]

actually I don't think it is a matter of crappy healers it is a matter of how the healing works.  Shamans will always parse out higher healing than any other healer because wards go off before reactives.  So if the tank is at full HP the wards will suck up the damage and the reactive will never trigger until the wards drop.  This includes pally wards so it is easy for a pally to out heal even a cleric and again if your healers are keeping the tank up close to 100% all the time the regens from druids will not have much effect either so it is very possible for a pally to show up on the parse as out healing all but the shaman on the raid.  I can push full DPS and just dropping my ward when it is up and a group heal when needed I can make 5th on the healing parse easy.  Which I think is the shaman and one of the templars.<div></div>

[Anariale]

<DIV>We only run 6 healers, so basically I would use my own heal parse as the bare minimum for what I expect from our healers.</DIV>

[FlintAH]

<div><blockquote><hr>Anzak wrote:actually I don't think it is a matter of crappy healers it is a matter of how the healing works.  Shamans will always parse out higher healing than any other healer because wards go off before reactives.  So if the tank is at full HP the wards will suck up the damage and the reactive will never trigger until the wards drop.  This includes pally wards so it is easy for a pally to out heal even a cleric and again if your healers are keeping the tank up close to 100% all the time the regens from druids will not have much effect either so it is very possible for a pally to show up on the parse as out healing all but the shaman on the raid.  I can push full DPS and just dropping my ward when it is up and a group heal when needed I can make 5th on the healing parse easy.  Which I think is the shaman and one of the templars.<div></div><hr></blockquote>If that is the case why is he needing essences to heal himself?  Also that is not always the case.  If the mob has unavoidable aes the druids and clerics should top it or massive spike dmg he will break through all the wards you can stack.</div>

[Snake]

<P>The raid I was on on the 22nd, I made very few of them and never healed myself. I haven't checked to see if I'm making more now.</P> <P>In fact, both Pallies on the raid had the same issue.</P> <P> </P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> madhatr wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hello druring a RAid ill make about a stack of devouit essances. Last night the pally MT labs and the otehr pally made 0 essances, i know on tast we will not use them anymore, but we need them right now, not sure whats going on. I had to trade a stack to the other pally so he coul heal..  Anyone else getting this</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I believe the OP means he uses the sacrament to heal himself after he sustains damage from a intercept.  I do this myself when i am trying to protect the MT from the initial pull, I tell the healers to ignore my health and fire off the sacrament and i am right back up there when taking 2,000 or more damage.  I have to say the opposite was true on essenses for me this weekend, i believe i had roughly 8 stacks of the blasted things.  When MTing, i hardly ever use the spell tho....<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Anzak]

Right now the only use I have found for the spell is as you said Steel or to heal up a bit after an AE.  If your tanking it is useless.<div></div>