I went a human pally, was I wrong?

[strider19]

I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.<div></div>

[Ajo]

Play what you think is fun. Don't look at the other side of the fence all the time :smileyhappy:

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> strider1987 wrote:<BR>I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>No real wrong or right choice, if you like to play as the human, then it is the right choice for you.  I think some like to play barabarian just for the fact it is the largest race on the good side to play or maybe they value a particular triat on the barbarian side.  Comparing our health to a guardian and berzerker in like gear is hopeless, in the same gear they have health bonuses we cant compete with.  We can bridge the gap some but they will be ahead health wise more than us generally.  Your race will have less and less importance the higher level you go, it is your traits that can have more of a bearing.  Did you pick the 2.5% health twice or did you go for power 2.5% or power/health regen?  the things other tanks pick behind the scenes with traits and AA points can change how they look to other tanks.<BR>

[SirRock]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> strider1987 wrote:<BR>I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Play what you enjoy.  The differences between races are minor and I've never heard of a group saying no to a paladin because they were human.</P> <P> </P> <P>*edit* - I play a Lvl 57 Human Paladin</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by SirRocky6 on <span class=date_text>04-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:29 PM</span>

[Seidhkona]

<div><blockquote><hr><font color="#ffff00" size="3">strider1987 wrote:I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.</font><div></div><hr></blockquote>After the first few levels, your equipment stats and bonuses will even out racial stat differences.I think people pick barbarians in many cases because they look, well, BUTCH.  The He-Man Conan look and all of that.  I'm a female Halasian because I am fascinated with the Vikings and thought it was the best match for that kind of cultural background for roleplay.A huge BENEFIT of being human is that you are smaller than a barb... which means you and your party can see around your big butt in tight spaces!  And you won't get hung in tunnels as often.  (I use a DE illusion form from the Mask in tight spaces myself... MUCH better in hobbit homes!)It's not HP that matters - it's MIT for a tank.  HP helps, but make sure that your equipment boosts MIT or has +crushing, +piercing, +slashing etc. bonuses.Also, you can get Hex Dolls to boost various stats... shop around and see if you can boost a stat or two using jewelry and hex dolls, and see how you perform. If it helps, use it, if not, look at other stats.  I worry about MIT, then WIS (mana), then INT (crits).</div>

[Impetus]

<blockquote><hr>strider1987 wrote: I went a human pally, was I wrong?<div></div><hr></blockquote><strike>Yeah, shoulda gone human SK.</strike> Oops, sorry, wrong thread. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Obfw Striker]

<P>Since I am a Barbarian I cant speak knowledgeably on the matter - but I believe that humans have the most balance in stats of any race - and since Paladins are really a balanced archetype - needing to draw from many stat pools - you may end up with an advantage that a few of us have not seen yet. It does tend to all even out as you age - but bringing a balanced race to a balanced class is definitely not a mistake - take advantage of it - and use equipment and accessories to balance what you feel are your racial deficincies.</P> <P>Strikkeer Steelblade</P> <P>70th Paladin</P> <P>Ascension Officer</P> <P>Lucan D'Lere</P><p>Message Edited by Obfw Striker on <span class=date_text>04-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:05 PM</span>

[demolition tank]

race is purely cosmetic<div></div>

[SirRock]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Impetus wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> strider1987 wrote:<BR><BR>I went a human pally, was I wrong?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><STRIKE>Yeah, shoulda gone human SK.</STRIKE><BR><BR>Oops, sorry, wrong thread. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You're my hero =)

[Turb]

As others have said, the choice is pretty much cosmetic.The stats really are cosmetic. By L70 you'll hit a few caps anyway, and have items with +20 or more to stats. The odd +5 or even +10 here and there isn't going to make any difference.Humans do get the +5 defence option, as do most 'tanking races', but again the importance of defence is less than it was, and there's other ways to raise this (e.g. +5 defence gloves).I am a human pally, but if I rerolled I'd probably try something less common for fun, maybe even a Ratonga <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> It matters that little. But visually I like the human pally. Looks very good on a horse too (compared to a little squeaky rat on a tiny pony!).

[Lairdragna]

I'm a gnome paladin... as stated, as you level, initial stats mean nothing... its all the gear!Racial traditions can be nice, I believe one of the gnomish ones is innate power regen.  I'm a regen junky.  One of the things I love about T7 is the amount of good dropped gear with Flowing Thought on it.Besides, what is sexier than a gnome wearing a sardine can and wielding a toothpick lance?<div></div>

[Wulfborne]

I am a human paladin and have *never* thought I should have been a different race. Once gear and aa's are tossed into the mix, race is just 'for looks'. I've seen some of my str/sta stats well above random ogre guardians I've come across in my travels... and I've seen gnomes have better stats than my own. It's all in what you want to play.~Sir Hawke Holyblayde, Paragon of Truth<div></div>

[ElctSocket]

Next to Lairdragna, (/wave) I think I win. I'm Wood Elf Paladin although since the server merges there have been sooooo much more of them. I think Highkeep just knew how to grow them....

[Lairdragna]

Yes, but I'm a gnome that began in Freeport and betrayed with my Iksar buddy who wanted to be a lizard monk...  So top THAT bucko! <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

[Ultim]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> strider1987 wrote:<BR>I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I also picked human as humans are a great class for paladins as our racial traits help a great deal, i never regretted my choice either <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />... My pally is the only Bald human pally (probably the only human pally too) on the server, so not only does he do his job, but he is unique and instantly recognised by anyone <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>the reason your health is lower is due to the fact that ZERKERS and GUARDs have stamina buffs, so you could essentially wear the same gear and have less HP <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Wallzak]

<DIV>WOOHOOO Gnomes of Norrath unite... and I thought I was the only Gnomie Paladin :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't hear many complaints, (lots of short jokes though)... and I MT 80% of the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On a similar topic... does anyone know of a resource that lists all the racial trait picks (not the starting ones, but the ones you pick as you level) you get for different races... it would be nice to be able to compare the bonuses each get as they grow up.</DIV>

[Aamad]

<P>I chose a troll paladin, and never regreted the choice. And I got a lot of funny looks in my early lvls hehe. Haven't seen any other troll paladins on befallen either. Str and power bonuses are cool but its true, all in how ye play. </P> <P> </P> <P>Aamadex</P> <P>Holy Defender of Trolldom</P>

[Pathin Merrithay]

<DIV>Speaking from the point of view of a High Elf paladin, Str is a total non-issue with me. I'm easily capping that stat and have actually found the small +Int bonuses help me more at higher levels because so little gear actually increases it.</DIV>

[tu]

Play what you enjoy. Hell im a lvl 70 Erudite Pally and i can tank no probs and no one has ever said oh i want a barb tank. Any race can be any tank. its your money feeding the eq2 machine.

[Felshades]

<blockquote><hr>Lairdragna wrote:Yes, but I'm a gnome that began in Freeport and betrayed with my Iksar buddy who wanted to be a lizard monk...  So top THAT bucko! <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>well, i'm a dark elf that betrayed freeport and became a paladin... lvl 41 teir'dal female paladin, lucan dlere...<div></div>

[Hamervelder]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> strider1987 wrote:<BR>I see so many Barb pallys and begin to wonder maybe I should have gone with more str/sta?  It seems wis is useless to pallys except for resists so the dwarf isn't that great an option, but humans have even less str and wis than a dwarf.  I went human because I love the idea of a noble human paladin...but I don't want to be [Removed for Content] later on.  At lvl 41 I have a fabled helm, fabled gloves, all legendaries except for two pieces of jewlery, fabled 2h axe, and fabled 1hs yet still I see a lot of barb guards/zerks with a lot more hp than me.  My fableds are all lvl 40 min lvl btw.  Legendaries range from 33-40.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Guardians and zerkers get more HP and mitigation than we do.  I've never agreed with guardians getting more mitigation, when wearing the same armor as paladins.  I mean come on, it's the same armor.  It should protect me as well as it does the next guy.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  As for that guardian's HP and mitigation... don't worry about them.  As you level more, you'll find more and more times when you're saving the group's collective [Removed for Content], because you can heal and ward, and all that gaurdian can do is stand there and get hit.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />    As for being gimped, I play a human paladin, and I don't feel that he's gimped at all.  The small racial bonuses you get with other races pale in the long run.  Play what you think is fun to play, and don't worry too much about other folks.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[n8cavy]

Yea I've never ran out for a pickup group in Kos and get there and they said Oh no your only human. I've seen lvl 70 tanks get taken down the first 5 secs of a fight becasue the are still using ebon armor. If a barbarian has the exact same gear as you, same hex dolls, same AA's everything then yes he might have 5 more STR and STA than you. I've yet to see any class have the exact same gear than me at one time. <div></div>

[Eldr]

<P>I'm an erudite paladin... so uh, I think your choice was just fine <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Race is purely cosmetic, as was stated previously</P>

[EQTigress]

<P>LOL, I'm a Kerran Pally.</P> <P>Meowww...</P> <P> </P>

[OrcSlayer96]

<DIV>No worries Strider, i am a dwarf pallie that is wider than he is taller and definetly do not feel gimped in the least, play the race you like the looks of and everything fits into place.  I like to keep a stock of bones and use the race eyes to change my guy at different times, one battle a ogre, another a troll, another a droag, another a barbarian.  For me the whole dwarven armorer/paladin was a good roleplay and i went with it.</DIV>

[Leawyn]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <DIV>... i am a dwarf pallie that is wider than he is taller ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not to mention you make one heck of a coffee table.... :smileyvery-happy: Have I said today how much I love you? :smileytongue:

[Iustus]

<DIV><STRONG>Leadership</STRONG> and <STRONG>Physical Adaptability</STRONG> are great human traits, I think you made a good choice.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-I</DIV>

[OrcSlayer96]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Leawyn wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OrcSlayer96 wrote:<BR> <DIV>... i am a dwarf pallie that is wider than he is taller ...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not to mention you make one heck of a coffee table.... :smileyvery-happy: Have I said today how much I love you? :smileytongue:<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Oh  no!  you have seen my crude tier 1 coffee table along with the chair that i made back in tier 1... i still have that up front next to the dragon statues in my hall.  How is the lovely Leawyn doing today?<BR>

[Leawyn]

Working too hard to stalk you today Steel. That makes me sad :smileysad:

[Kaldain]

<div></div>The only reason I chose my pally to be a barb was for roleplaying reason, otherwise i think i would have picked human for the looks.  Like everyone keeps saying, racial stat differences dont make much of a difference later on  so just play what you like the look of <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>