Paladin spells 61-70

[Aamad]

<div></div><div></div><div>Backlash - 61</div><div>Ardent Belief - 61</div><div>Celestial Touch - 62</div><div>Holy Circle - 63</div><div>Righteousness - 64</div><div>Fervent Aid - 64</div><div>Call to Duty - 65</div><div>Castigate (new spell) - 65</div><div>Blessing of the Reverent - 66</div><div>Righteous Demonstration - 66</div><div>Extinguish Will - 67</div><div>Devotion - 68</div><div>Refusal of Conviction - 68</div><div>Reverent Sacrament - 68</div><div>Hallowed Judgement - 69</div><div>Valorous Dash - 69</div><div>Brimstone - 70</div><div>Devout Strike - 70</div><div>Relentless Conviction - 70</div><div> </div><div>Master II choices at 64 were Righteousness, Fervent Aid, Celestial Touch, and Holy Circle.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Aamadex on <span class="date_text">02-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:35 AM</span></p>

[Anzak]

Could you add which lines each of these are.  And maybe give use the basics on the new spell please?<div></div>

[Aamad]

<div></div><div></div><div><p><span></span></p><img border="0" height="1" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/p.gif" width="1" alt=""><div></div><div>ok <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>Backlash (blessed rush upgrade) - 61</div><div>Ardent Belief(buff upgrade to crusade) - 61</div><div>Celestial Touch(lay hands upgrade) - 62 does like 3200 - 4k at master</div><div>Holy Circle (upgrade to holy symbol)- 63</div><div>Righteousness(ae taunt) - 64</div><div>Fervent Aid(single target heal)  - 64</div><div>Call to Duty(group proc buff) - 65</div><div>Castigate (new spell) - 65 massive dd 1k-1700 dmg at master 1..does more dmg the lower your health is, 1 sec cast 3 min recast.</div><div>Blessing of the Reverent(hp buff) - 66</div><div>Righteous Demonstration(weapon proc) - 66</div><div>Extinguish Will(replaces destroy will) - 67</div><div>Devotion (ward) - 68 1300 at master 1</div><div>Refusal of Conviction (massive dd)- 68</div><div>Reverent Sacrament(self heal) - 68</div><div>Hallowed Judgement (replaces celestial judgement) - 69</div><div>Valorous Dash (upgrade to righteous dash) - 69</div><div>Brimstone(upgrade to decree) - 70</div><div>Devout Strike(upgrade to zealous strike) - 70</div><div>Relentless Conviction (upgrade to unflinching conviction) - 70</div><div> </div><div>Master II choices at 64 were Righteousness, Fervent Aid, Celestial Touch, and Holy Circle.</div></div><p>Message Edited by Aamadex on <span class="date_text">02-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:35 AM</span></p>

[Aamad]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div>will post some SS's if i get the time i'm just lazy hehe</div><div> </div><div>I found no upgrades to our ae heal or amends as yet...perhaps amends won't get updgraded /shrug</div><p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by Aamadex on <span class="date_text">02-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:45 PM</span></p>

[Jonaroth]

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] /droooooolthanks for the info aama!really really sucks amends isnt getting a new spell, even if its like 1% upgrade, because that spell is t5 (like lvl 48 or something?) its just about impossible to find a master of, I know of only 1 paly on my server who has it.. in fact I have every single one of all my spells master, except for 2, and amends is one of em :-<div></div>

[Vessago]

<div></div>I didn't see a single target Taunt upgrade nor a group heal upgrade in the list??? Did we get screwed?

[WAPCE]

<blockquote><hr>Vessago01 wrote:<div></div>I didn't see a single target Taunt upgrade nor a group heal upgrade in the list??? Did we get screwed?<hr></blockquote>An expansion increases the level cap by 10, but spells are still on a 14-level cycle. Spells x7 - x0 don't get upgrades. Clarion Cry is 59 and Prayer of Consecration is 58.<p>Message Edited by WAPCE on <span class="date_text">02-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:55 PM</span></p>

[Dwergux]

<blockquote><hr>WAPCE wrote:<blockquote><hr>Vessago01 wrote:<div></div>I didn't see a single target Taunt upgrade nor a group heal upgrade in the list??? Did we get screwed?<hr></blockquote>An expansion increases the level cap by 10, but spells are still on a 14-level cycle. Spells x7 - x0 don't get upgrades. Clarion Cry is 59 and Prayer of Consecration is 58.<p>Message Edited by WAPCE on <span class="date_text">02-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:55 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I noticed one exception.Decree seems to be on a 20-level cycle as it gets upgraded at lev 70.

[Aamad]

<div>prayer of consecration is 56</div>

[Vanir]

<div></div><p>Here is why they dont upgrade as usual...</p><p> </p><div><em>-The level 50 marquee spells do not follow the normal level advancement, and its upgrade is granted at level 70.</em></div><div> </div><div><em>-Some spell lines will end altogether and not get their +14 level upgrade in the expansion. This only occurs if the spell's upgrade path involves a raw percentage that is always effective no matter what level you use this ability, and any upgrades would break the balance of the spell. There is no replacement spell, since you can use the raw percentage spell at any level and for less power than what you would get with a higher level spell upgrade.</em></div><div> </div><div><div><em>-Some spells do not follow the general +14 level advancement, and may vary by +/- 1 level. This was done for certain levels where no spell upgrades were being granted, often because of ending spell lines from spells that cannot possibly get better.</em></div></div><div> </div><div><em>-Desert of Flames Legendary spells are unique and do not follow normal level advancement, and will not have any upgrades in Kingdom of Sky.</em></div><div> </div><p></p><p><em>Jared SweattEverQuest II Spells and Combat Designer </em></p>

[WAPCE]

<i>Decree seems to be on a 20-level cycle as it gets upgraded at lev 70.</i>Yup, all the new spell lines that people got at 50 are upgraded at 70 (Ice Comet, Devstation, etc).<i>prayer of consecration is 56</i>My bad, you're right. That should be upgraded if convention is to be followed.

[Anzak]

Well if there is not upgrade to amends then I want it back to where it was before they nerfed it.<div></div>

[XskullbusterX]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Anzak wrote:Well if there is not upgrade to amends then I want it back to where it was before they nerfed it.<div></div><hr></blockquote>ya whats that all about ... no upgrade to amends <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ...... blah i tell ya <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Aamad]

<div></div>I don't see why they couldnt just upgrade it slightly and add some sort of secondary effect on it like our avoidance buffs

[uzhiel feathered serpe]

<div></div><p>I agree with the consecration deal, but I honestly dont see the bid deal in amends.</p><p>It will still siphon 39% and it is still superior than most other hate generators. If you seriously think about it, what are they going to upgrade it to? 45%? 50%?</p><p>At that point it becomes overpowered.  Logically speaking, nothing will change in terms of aggro.</p><p>Stream of Arrows = 1000 aggro at 39% siphon</p><p>Upgrade to stream of arrows = 1500 at 39% siphon.</p><p>Since DPS is growing in T7 amends WILL generate more aggro. This is not a nerf at all. The percentage is CONSTANT, but since all skills are getting upgraded for the DPS classes, aggro will increase. Increasing the percentage will overpower the ability and invite other classes to pounce on us.</p><p>Let us argue against true nerfs.</p>

[Rhianni]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>uzhiel feathered serpent wrote:<div></div><p>I agree with the consecration deal, but I honestly dont see the bid deal in amends.</p><p>It will still siphon 39% and it is still superior than most other hate generators. If you seriously think about it, what are they going to upgrade it to? 45%? 50%?</p><p>At that point it becomes overpowered.  Logically speaking, nothing will change in terms of aggro.</p><p>Stream of Arrows = 1000 aggro at 39% siphon</p><p>Upgrade to stream of arrows = 1500 at 39% siphon.</p><p>Since DPS is growing in T7 amends WILL generate more aggro. This is not a nerf at all. The percentage is CONSTANT, but since all skills are getting upgraded for the DPS classes, aggro will increase. Increasing the percentage will overpower the ability and invite other classes to pounce on us.</p><p>Let us argue against true nerfs.</p><hr></blockquote>Agreed. I dont see how they can realistically upgrade amends much higher.  As you point out it.  Since its a % then as the other classes get increased damage ours also increases but we get to keep our masters without having to rebuy at the next tier. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[MaltanisKolba]

<div> I have Master I Amends, 41% hate.  I'm fine with no upgrade.  The new spell looks pretty cool.  Kinda wish we got at least one other new one.   Tired of the same old stuff.</div><div> </div><div>Maltanis Kolbair</div><div>60 Paladin</div><div>Befallen</div>

[Anzak]

Because Adept III used to be 41% that was good.  Also as damage goes up sure we gain more agro but also we have to make up for more of the difference and I don't see taunts going up that much.<div></div>