Is the Ebon worth it for paladins now?

[BadBoyMc2]

Hi all, Ebon armour is best for a heavy armour archtype (taking away fabled), now i am level45 & dont level too fast, about 1 level a week, i aint that rich, only just have about 1pp.  Now my biggest choice is should i save up for ebon clusters/hours of mining for ebon clusters when the expansion will hand out T6 items. Ebon Clusters our 3pp a piece on my server (rip off if you ask me) & i personally do not see the point of spending 3pp on each piece of ebon armour for the sake of it being worth nothing in say 3/4 months when the expansion comes out & gives us T6. At the moment i am using a full set of rubicite, which is doing me perfectly fine, i am in raiding guild, which raids everyday, we have a lvl50 guardian who is always the tank for raids (of course), i rarely group with more than 3 people for xp'ing so i dont tank that much. I keep getting told by people that i should save up for ebon now that i am in my late 40s/raiding lvls, but i dont see the point if im not tanking in raids or any groups at all. The money could be saved for T6 items or a fabled weapon which would be more effective for me. I have been mining now for 4 days for an ebon cluster, i have had no luck what so ever, i am only looking for this ebon cluster to complete my EBBC HQ, because i think this is a good sword & well worth the ebon, due to weapon,status,XP etc. I would much rather spend an ebon cluster on a HQ than buy an ebon BP, or an ebon armour piece. It might just be my server who sells Ebon over-priced, i havnt looked into other servers prices just yet, but from my fellow paladins point of view is it worth me upgrading my armour to Ebon? <div></div>

[djhbeek]

no, it's not worth buying for you.  3p is the going rate on my server too.  Since you are raiding, you will eventually get ebon drops off of raid mobs, which is gonna be the most cost-effective way to upgrade. <div></div>

[uzhiel feathered serpe]

<DIV>Many raid mobs drop ebon coins and such. My guild has a DKP system, where you can use points to buy raid loot. So much ebon drops off raid mobs that were super overstocked with ebon. So much that new members are REQUIRED to have a full ebon set, unless you're packing fabled.  All that means is that ebon drops and it drops ALOT off raid mobs, so if you're starting to raid you should have lots of ebon real soon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Uzhiel, lvl 50 Paladin, Eternal Chaos, Faydark.</DIV>

[MeridianR]

<span><blockquote><hr>uzhiel feathered serpent wrote:<div>Many raid mobs drop ebon coins and such. My guild has a DKP system, where you can use points to buy raid loot. So much ebon drops off raid mobs that were super overstocked with ebon. So much that new members are REQUIRED to have a full ebon set, unless you're packing fabled.  All that means is that ebon drops and it drops ALOT off raid mobs, so if you're starting to raid you should have lots of ebon real soon.</div> <div> </div> <div>Uzhiel, lvl 50 Paladin, Eternal Chaos, Faydark.</div><hr></blockquote>Yep, I went from just chest and legs in ebon before raiding, to full ebon (sans feet) after joining a guild that raids <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Rellikd]

think about it. Ebon clusters = 3pp each atm, when t6 items come out, that price will be lowerd. Its basic ecocomics. Something better comes out, price for the older things drop. <div></div>

[K'aldar]

no ebon wouldn't be worth it for you to upgrade.  if you only main tank casually then you don't need the very best armor. use your money to upgrade your spells, or save for the expansion. <div></div>

[Yrield]

Well, +stats/+HP/+Pwr/+Resist and mitigation are better on ebon, IMO its kinda a no-brainer, if you raid you need some good stats, a lot of HP, a lot of power, a lot of resist and you get a mitigation bonus for the price of 4 <span>:smileyhappy:</span> Clerics run around in full set of ebon all the time and you can't more casual main tank ! <span>:smileywink:</span> No need to buy 7 ebon clusters, farm those ores, farm the nameds, you may get lucky... or not. Of course you can just wait for the expansion to come out, but an other expansion will come after and an other... going this way you will end up in the third expansion with a full set of rubicite  And dont forget to not upgrade your spells/CAs because in the next expansion you will get a full new tier of better spell/CAs <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> <div></div>

[JarredDarque]

<DIV>I am a lvl 46 armorer.  a lvl 39 pally.  I can more than easily afford a full set of ebon right now.  And make it myself.   But ya know what.   I am not going to  by the time I hit 50/50  the expansion will be coming out,  and I will be looking for a new rare armor.   I am instead oging to save my moeny to get a jump on the competition when the expansion comes out.  granted I will be going straight to crafting,  but the more moeny  have when it comes out,  the more I can spend on goods to be one of the first armorers out there to be putting out suits of armor.</DIV>

[Zaloorb]

<P>I have found a better armor than Ebon. Im not sure if anyone has seen Thulzite Vanguard armor going around (It drops from the CT epic) that has more Mit, and more saves than ebon. The only drawbacks to the armor are less stats (lower sta, str, agi, and wis) and that it looks like chain armor. I am currently using it for my arms and my hands. It gives 200 to ALL saves and now that I only have 2 pieces, all of my self buffed saves are over 1500, with some at 2500+.</P> <P>Check it out, I bought the 2 pieces on the market for 60g (FAR, FAR, less than ebon) and the armor is listed as treasured and NOT fabled. Either check the market for some or raid the CT epic every 6 days for a chance for some to drop. Good luck!</P>

[eyes007]

Armor isn't really the issue anymore on our server (Oggok). Ebon is still rare and people are still looking for it but it's at the point now that rubies and such are at the same price as ebon. NO one cares about armor any more and many of the guilds have joined together in an effort to raid more often and when that happens you suddenly have 10 people who have all the nice stuff and the rest of the guild can wait for the dividends to pay off. This is why rubies however are more important, people are paying god knows what for Adept III and instead of 7 pieces of armor, you end up with 10-15 spells/abilities in dire need of raid-level upskilling.

[Goozman]

If u ask me ebon is only useful now for twinking alts as they get to 40, it's really fun for that, but otherwise the bonuses aren't very necessary. Especially with us expecting to see handcrafted tier 6 stuff in the near future for probably 1/20 the price

[JarredDarque]

<DIV>aye,  but until lvl 53 or so,  (following the trend of the last few tiers)  ebon will be better than the common T6 stuff.  and the rare T6 stuff will probably cost initially around 10pp,  and eventually drop down to only 4-5.  with ebon hopefully dropping down to about 75gp</DIV>

[GilfalasElaandrin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> At the moment i am using a full set of rubicite, which is doing me perfectly fine, i am in raiding guild, which raids everyday, we have a lvl50 guardian who is always the tank for raids (of course), i rarely group with more than 3 people for xp'ing so i dont tank that much. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>If your in a raid guild that raids every day I would be suprized if you did not end up with a full set of Fabled or ebon armor simply by raiding. Raid mobs drop an absolutely HUGE quantity of rare trade materials (Ebon Coins and Disks for example) that most guilds let their members use DKP/Raid Points/Whatever to aquire as raid rewards.</P> <P>Not to mention that Fabled armor raid drops blow away ebon in both stats and in bonus abilities/powers on the armor pieces for the most part. My suggestion would be get level 50, since most raid guilds don't even conisder non 50 characters seriously, and then try and get the dropped ebon pieces as rewards for raiding.</P> <P>At least that is how I see it work with the raid guilds on my server. you could try to buy ebon but the price for coins and disks is abotu 2-2.5 plat on Antonia Bayle where I play, with Ebon Clusters running 3-4 plat since it is used in the Bone Bladed Claymore Heritage quest.<BR></P>

[Pathin Merrithay]

<DIV>I've gone into full 'saving my money for the expansion' mode. I have enough to grab and outfit some Ebon peices on myself, but I'm simply not to the point where tanking green mobs for guild writs (which is now 95% of my time is going) justifies such expense. On raids, I'm not going to be tanking, so resist gear tends to trump when I would normally choose to wear regardless. If you can get Ebon from raid drops, then go for it, but I /agree with most of the posts here. Save your money for now.</DIV>

[sk8erbob]

<DIV>well c the T6 items wont be able to be good for awhile cuase the armorers would need to lvl up to it but yes w8 for the ebon u will have it i no time</DIV>

[lisasdarr]

<span><blockquote><hr>GilfalasElaandrin wrote: <p>If your in a raid guild that raids every day I would be suprized if you did not end up with a full set of Fabled or ebon armor simply by raiding. Raid mobs drop an absolutely HUGE quantity of rare trade materials (Ebon Coins and Disks for example) that most guilds let their members use DKP/Raid Points/Whatever to aquire as raid rewards.</p> <p>Not to mention that Fabled armor raid drops blow away ebon in both stats and in bonus abilities/powers on the armor pieces for the most part. My suggestion would be get level 50, since most raid guilds don't even conisder non 50 characters seriously, and then try and get the dropped ebon pieces as rewards for raiding.</p><hr></blockquote>Only one problem with this, to get maximum usage out of a set of ebon you want to be aquiring it by level 40 or soon after, not at level 50 when it is ready to be replaced. Not that this is necessarily easy to achieve, but suggesting you aim to get to 50 before trying to get your ebon armour is IMHO rather missing the point of the armour in the first place.</span><div></div>

[hieronym]

i have to agree that waiting till your 50 before getting ebon armour is a waste. Im wearing 3 pieces at 42 and luckily mined another which is waiting at the bank and with this armour my mitigation and stats are better than other stuff meaning i can tank easier and solo easier now. I smile to myself when i see another plate tank a few lvls higher than me and i look at his stats and mine are better as he is using crap armour :smileyhappy:

[TheGreatStoney]

<DIV>One of the developers has already said they are changing the ebbc heritage to use ebon coins & disks. This should bring the price down on ebons back to around 80g - 1p. They havent specified when this is going live yet though.</DIV>

[BlackW]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> BadBoyMc2k4 wrote:<BR>Hi all,<BR><BR>Ebon armour is best for a heavy armour archtype (taking away fabled), now i am level45 & dont level too fast, about 1 level a week, i aint that rich, only just have about 1pp.  Now my biggest choice is should i save up for ebon clusters/hours of mining for ebon clusters when the expansion will hand out T6 items. Ebon Clusters our 3pp a piece on my server (rip off if you ask me) & i personally do not see the point of spending 3pp on each piece of ebon armour for the sake of it being worth nothing in say 3/4 months when the expansion comes out & gives us T6.<BR><BR>At the moment i am using a full set of rubicite, which is doing me perfectly fine, i am in raiding guild, which raids everyday, we have a lvl50 guardian who is always the tank for raids (of course), i rarely group with more than 3 people for xp'ing so i dont tank that much. I keep getting told by people that i should save up for ebon now that i am in my late 40s/raiding lvls, but i dont see the point if im not tanking in raids or any groups at all. The money could be saved for T6 items or a fabled weapon which would be more effective for me.<BR><BR>I have been mining now for 4 days for an ebon cluster, i have had no luck what so ever, i am only looking for this ebon cluster to complete my EBBC HQ, because i think this is a good sword & well worth the ebon, due to weapon,status,XP etc. I would much rather spend an ebon cluster on a HQ than buy an ebon BP, or an ebon armour piece.<BR><BR>It might just be my server who sells Ebon over-priced, i havnt looked into other servers prices just yet, but from my fellow paladins point of view is it worth me upgrading my armour to Ebon?<BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If you RAID at the highest lvls of the game, ebon is worth it.   You do not need ebon until 45+ unless you plan to RAID a LOT.   But then, if you are lvl 50 and raid several times a week you can probably afford Ebon.

[MeridianR]

<div></div><span>I was Main Assisting yesterday for Zalak, and Drayek, and I have to say with the Royal Great Flail (on the adds, yes I know) I pulled aggro a couple times from the MT (and on the adds for Drayek when I took aggro) and having the ebon armor (if you don't have fabled of course) makes it much easier to take damage.When you raid say 3 instances a night, I would gather that you will get 1 or 2 ebon a night. After a couple weeks, every one of your heavy armor classes (even Clerics) should be in ebon...again if they aren't wearing fabled.</span><a target="_blank" href="../board?board.id=10"></a>

[GilfalasElaandrin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> lisasdarren wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> ...but suggesting you aim to get to 50 before trying to get your ebon armour is IMHO rather missing the point of the armour in the first place.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I suggested that because the huge majority of ebon generated in raid guilds are coins and disks that drop in master chests and such as loot. Any and all raid guilds I have seen will not even let someone bif on loot unless they are level 50 to begin with.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And up until the expansion, better armor will still be better armor. If your level 45 or level 50, Ebon will be an ugprade and an improvement to how well you work. not everyone can get a full suit of ebon at level 39 ready for when they ding 40. If you can more power to you. But in his specific situation that seemed the best idea to me. It is far easier to big DKP or whatever his guild does on raid dropped ebons than to generate cash and buy them in that quantity. I see it every single day as a level 50 WS.</DIV>

[Darksong]

yes it is

[coochic]

<P>   Well, I have a second paladin in his mid 30's now, with a paladin already in his 40's. My second is by far my favorite to play, due to my first was a learning thing and this guy is better. I've been saving up for a full suit, (but not the boots, J-Boots heritage quest) so I hope like crazy that it's worth it. I am the main tank of my guild and I think the better I can take hits = the less heals i need = the less aggro healers my generate? Maybe i'm wrong, </P> <P>    I have all my heals, buffs, and nukes at adept 3 now, so that's out of the way. </P> <P>   And as far as the T-6 that's yet to come, well, we still need someone to pristine imbue that and you're looking at a lvl 59 armor for that, we all know. and with the vitality like it is at the higer lvl's that may take some time. And not to mention with the small amount of armors that can make the imbued ebon we have now. They charge STUPID prices to make it, now when you only have two on the server that can make t-6 you looking at 5 plat just for labor i'm sure, then as mentioned the rare will be 10 plat i'm sure. So is it worth it to me to have all this ebon armor from lvl 40 to lvl 50. Yes, I do. </P> <P>  Though i'm but a humble Holy Knight trying to rid evil from norath.</P>

[SanJ]

<DIV>If you have just one plat to spend, consider equipping yourself beyond basic fulginate for the raid scene.  As many have already posted, membership and participation in a "busy" raiding guild will open many opportunities for not only ebon drops that may be converted into ebon armor, but even better, fabled armor that shames ebon armor stats!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You will face mobs that require uncanny high resistances such as poison, heat, cold, etc.   You may also find it a requirement to have a certain resistance over a certain benchmark as a requirement to attend a raid.  I would likely invest a chunk of my coin in that case into high heat resist armor, high cold resist armor, good poison resist gear, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I look forward to the day I have all fabled or "elite" gear that will allow me to dispose of three different sets of armor I now wear on the raid scene based on the mobs resistance requirement.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As an example, research sootfoot armor to discover the benefits it might offer for heat resist.  You'll find things in Everfrost to help with cold resist, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A busy raiding mob is going to help you not only net some nice fabled armor, but probably fabled weapons, ebon drops, ruby drops, master drops and much more.  Check to see if your guild does DKP.  If so, and you play a good amount (raid a lot), you're going to earn enough points to purchase some nice gear over time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,<BR>Kalen</DIV>

[Nurta]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MeridianR wrote:<BR> <SPAN>I was Main Assisting yesterday for Zalak, and Drayek, and I have to say with the Royal Great Flail (on the adds, yes I know) I pulled aggro a couple times from the MT (and on the adds for Drayek when I took aggro) and having the ebon armor (if you don't have fabled of course) makes it much easier to take damage.<BR><BR>When you raid say 3 instances a night, I would gather that you will get 1 or 2 ebon a night. After a couple weeks, every one of your heavy armor classes (even Clerics) should be in ebon...again if they aren't wearing fabled.<BR><BR><BR></SPAN><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=10" target=_blank></A><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Assuming your mobs don't drop linen <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Yes it's sad but true, I've seen linen drop more than ebon of late lol.  But you're right raiding in a DKP guild that hits several targets at a time you are more likely to see that ebon.</P> <P>Royal Great Flail /drool  I want one!<BR></P>

[MeridianR]

<span><blockquote><hr>Nurta wrote: <blockquote> <hr> MeridianR wrote: <div></div><span>I was Main Assisting yesterday for Zalak, and Drayek, and I have to say with the Royal Great Flail (on the adds, yes I know) I pulled aggro a couple times from the MT (and on the adds for Drayek when I took aggro) and having the ebon armor (if you don't have fabled of course) makes it much easier to take damage.When you raid say 3 instances a night, I would gather that you will get 1 or 2 ebon a night. After a couple weeks, every one of your heavy armor classes (even Clerics) should be in ebon...again if they aren't wearing fabled.</span><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=10" target="_blank"></a> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Assuming your mobs don't drop linen <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p> <p>Yes it's sad but true, I've seen linen drop more than ebon of late lol.  But you're right raiding in a DKP guild that hits several targets at a time you are more likely to see that ebon.</p> <p>Royal Great Flail /drool  I want one!</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes King Zalak has been good to me - Royal Great Flail late last week, and Kite Shield of the King last night <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I have noticed that Ebon has dropped a lot less recently, but the amount of rubies has stayed pretty much the same. </span><div></div>