How much stats can you add to main tank?

[SirDra]

<DIV>Im not to familiar with paladians so could some1 fill me in</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wondering about these skills</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>47.6 - Crusade : STR + STA + WIS buff, cant be dispelled -- how much does this increase stats?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>46 - Unwavering Faith : Shield a party member from attack, that person gets a parry buff -- how much parry?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>45.6 - Gift of Armament : Give some of your AC to another party member -- how much mitigation does this add?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Are there any other spells, skills, combat arts that add defence, hp, avodiance, mitigation or anything that would be essential to a main group??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks it would be very nice if you could provide me with some good infromation. There seems to be a lack of pallys on our server so i really have no idea about them but i would like to learn.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR> </DIV>

[Cedri]

Well, I'll assumue you're looking for this info possibly for raid group make-up or something, I'm a 50 pally, all my buffs are adept3 so i can probably give you some good numbers as to how much a pally would help.Main Buffs:<b>Crusade (Adept III)</b>+28sta, +28str, +18wis<i>(Edit) Note: While I didnt take it, one of the level 40 training options replaces Crusade and also adds AGI in addition to STR,STA,WIS, i dont have the numbers on that unfortunately, but they are probably slightly lower STR/STA/WIS</i><b>Unwavering Faith (Adept III)</b>Parry +2, Mitigation +106, +42% AvoidanceNotes: The mitigation does NOT stack with Gift of Armament, and the +42% avoidance is not visible on your persona... whether it actually works, I'm not sure. I figure when I'm bored I'll test it out, I know a couple other classes get a similar 'avoidance' buff<b>Gift of Armament (Adept III)</b>Mitigation +316We also have a few short dutation buffs, but not much that would contribute to the main tank. A WIS/Power buff, and a +Slash Skill/Crush Skill/Pierce Skill/Divine Resist buffIf you're looking for a reason to put a pally in a main group it'd be purely for the +mitigation, especially with the upcoming combat changes, there's a chance tanking will depend more on mitigation then whether you can get to 100% avoidance or not.However it goes, I'm happy being a MT group Pally, there's probably other choices that would work well also. Pallies can heal/ward (wards are group only) when needed, and can easily adapt... we can switch from dps, to healer, to emergancy tank depending on what the situation calls for.--Narius ElilasLevel 50 Erudite Paladin <Enmity>Najena<p>Message Edited by Cedrian on <span class=date_text>06-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:35 AM</span>

[SirDra]

<DIV>i heard rumor that pallys get a trait or skill, not sure which, that adds 11 defence to the main tank if in his group, is this true?</DIV>

[jshari]

i have a human triat leadership i think its +5 to whoever party or raid also we have agis of hope wich increases thier mig and avoidace also we buff using puos of belife (forgive my spelling) <div></div>

[SirDra]

What about low lvl hp buffs cant you stack thoes on some1 <p>Message Edited by SirDrake on <span class=date_text>06-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:14 AM</span>

[Narfism]

Unfortunately, our spells were not bugged like guardian/berzerker buffs.  Our are working as intended and do not stack.

[hylozoist]

<P>For comparison, Kasine's is 28 str/sta, 23 agi, and 20 wis.</P> <P>I'm sure crusade scales up better as you raise it.  Kasine's skill level is matched to 50.</P>

[Cedri]

Well, the +11 DEF to the Main tank doesnt exist, rather, its a self only spell, so hardly of any use to a guardian tank, and it takes 3 Conc. anyways.As for lower level stuff that stacks... the only one im aware of is the level 10 training to the +slash/pierce/crush skill has a +10sta bonus, the stamina portion stacks (the skill buffs dont however) and is still useful at 50, but doesnt stack with Crusade, so its only useful for those people who didnt get Crusade (crusade is conc. based)I could get numbers for those spells as level 51, but if you're here for comparison, thats not really required (I have Zalak's Kit Shield of Dominion)--Narius ElilasLevel 50 Erudite Paladin <Enmity>Najena

[SanJ]

<P>I placed Unwavering Faith on our raid tank this past weekend.  At adept 1, it supposedly increases avoidance by 37% (sounds awesome).  It raised the raid tank's avoidance (a guardian in my group) by 0.1%--very disappointing.  To ensure it wasn't a cap or buff override from another player class.  We disbanded, completely unbuffed and tried again--same results 0.1% avoidance increase.</P> <P>Our Prayer of Conviction line adds some additional nice stats not mentioned yet on the thread as does our Call to Glory line.</P> <P>A 50 Paladin will also rez a player with 44% health and 44% mana--very uber!  If required and depending on the Paladins choice of quick heals, we'll add a mid 500ish to high 700ish heal every 5 seconds, but at a significant hit to mana over time.  The Paladin can also use a self heal (Devout Sacrament) that will pop up in mid 1K range heal which is on a 5 minute timer.</P> <P>Depending on the training choice of the Paladin, the Lay on Hands line is usable every 15 minutes or every 30 minutes (once again based on training upgrade options).</P> <P>Thanks,<BR>Kalen</P>