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Pilo
05-27-2005, 11:27 PM
<div></div>Hello, I'm relatively new to all this and I've spent some time digging around through the forums for a while and I'm left with a few questions because the information is so scattered out there. Basically, assuming cost is no object, what armor should I be wearing at what level?  And assuming cost is an object and I'd want to get something a little bit cheaper and quest for better stuff down the line..? 1.  From what I understand, in the 10s, the best player-made armor is the <i>Pristine Blackened Iron Chainmail</i>?  What is the "best" weapon? 2.  In the 20s, again at a relatively low cost, is the Pristine Forged Steel Vanguard?  Is this right?  What is a step down?  What components would I need to give to an armorer (I'm not a tradeskiller but I know plenty) to get this to work for me?  If it isn't right, what is?  Also, again, what is the "best" weapon? 3.  In the 30s,<i> Pristine Forged Feysteel Vanguard</i>?  Feyiron if I want to save $$?  Same Qs as #2: components?  Also, what weapon? I'm not worried about anything past that, I'm sure I'll have figured it out by then.  I've got a Crusader now just finished with Betrayal (dark elf) and I'm about to make a Paladin and I'd like to deck it out if possible.  This twinking is a lot more complicated than EQ1, unfortunately. Sorry, I know its a lot of questions -- maybe if you answer them I'll write them simply I can write them up into a nice little guide that can be referenced in the future.. Thanks! <div></div><p>Message Edited by Pilot2 on <span class=date_text>05-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:14 PM</span>

jshari
05-28-2005, 04:03 AM
im no to good att his sorta stuff but i know there are good armor quests in bubleshire ( i think for around lvl 10+ not sure) and then in Qanos harbor for armor quest ( lvl 20-30) <div></div>

Pilo
05-28-2005, 04:13 AM
Right, I understand there are quests.  Problem is I don't feel like marching through tons of quests very similar to the ones I've done with my other character already.  I'm basically looking for how you can best twink out a character to not have to worry about that stuff ~ I'm trying to catch my alt up to the people I play with on my other character as best I can and I figure buying the crafted stuff will be fastest and easiest.  That way all I have to do is worry about exp and not chasing some random mobs that may or may not give exp.  I'll quest again when I catch up (mid-upper 30s). <div></div>

RSta
05-28-2005, 01:01 PM
<DIV>Hello, I'm relatively new to all this and I've spent some time digging around through the forums for a while and I'm left with a few questions because the information is so scattered out there.<BR><BR>Basically, assuming cost is no object, what armor should I be wearing at what level?  And assuming cost is an object and I'd want to get something a little bit cheaper and quest for better stuff down the line..?<BR><BR>1.  From what I understand, in the 10s, the best player-made armor is the <I>Pristine Blackened Iron Chainmail</I>?  What is the "best" weapon?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>Imbued blackened Iron Greatsword will work fine at this lvl for soloing, If you wan to group and MT then get a shield and a imbued blackned iron battle hammer.  Keep in mind for all weapons at all lvls you'll want an imbued rare version.  All weapons in each tier within each set (1hd vs 2hd) will have the same damage rating but differing attrib.</FONT><BR><BR>2.  In the 20s, again at a relatively low cost, is the Pristine Forged Steel Vanguard?  Is this right?  What is a step down?  What components would I need to give to an armorer (I'm not a tradeskiller but I know plenty) to get this to work for me?  If it isn't right, what is?  Also, again, what is the "best" weapon?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>Steel Van with imbued BP and Leggings, Carb is the cheap version.  Weapon again an imbued Steel, your really should have 3 - 4 weapons in each tier if you want to do everything 1hd cut and 1hd crush, 2h cut and 2h crush.</FONT><BR><BR>3.  In the 30s,<I> Pristine Forged Feysteel Vanguard</I>?  Feyiron if I want to save $$?  Same Qs as #2: components?  Also, what weapon?</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>Feyseel is correct, same idea as above, also shield wise look for the following imbued (1x's bone, 2x's fir, 3x's oak)</FONT><BR><BR>I'm not worried about anything past that, I'm sure I'll have figured it out by then.  I've got a Crusader now just finished with Betrayal (dark elf) and I'm about to make a Paladin and I'd like to deck it out if possible.  This twinking is a lot more complicated than EQ1, unfortunately.<BR><BR>Sorry, I know its a lot of questions -- maybe if you answer them I'll write them simply I can write them up into a nice little guide that can be referenced in the future..<BR></DIV>

Pilo
05-28-2005, 08:19 PM
Thanks, Rstahl. Question on the shields.  What's the common/rare version in each teir? <div></div>

Titali
05-30-2005, 04:53 PM
<DIV>t2 bone, t3 fir, t4 oak, t5 cedar (this was actually in rstahl's post, but there ya go anyhow.</DIV>

Pilo
05-30-2005, 08:19 PM
Ahh, yes.  I didn't quite get what he meant by 1x, 2x.  It was all out of context there.  Thanks! <div></div>

Hamervelder
05-31-2005, 03:31 AM
<DIV>Orc Marauder armor is great for a paladin in your 30's.  I had a full suit of feysteel armor, and, upon switching to a full suit of orc marauder armor, I gained over 40 points of stamina and nearly 300 hit points.  I can take beatings that the guardian in our group, of the same level, can't take, because he's wearing the feysteel armor.</DIV>

Pilo
05-31-2005, 04:22 AM
Kite/Round/Buckler - does it matter? <div></div>

Dwergux
05-31-2005, 02:47 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Pilot2 wrote:Kite/Round/Buckler - does it matter? <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes Kite shields have a higher shield factor (and a higher block rate) Round shields have medium shield factor (and low block rate) Bucklers have low shield factor (and very low block rate)</span><div></div>

Antryg Mistrose
05-31-2005, 10:19 PM
Orc Marauder Amour does not compare to Feysteel.  Perhaps you meant Feyiron?  Feysteel is made from the tier 4 rare.  Pristine, not even imbued it's still quite a lot higher than the Orc Marauder gear.  I'm pretty sure it peaks at lvl 40, Orc stuff at 35, so you are going to regret swapping eventually.   Otherwise I've been busy harvesting in Nek and EL for nothing ! <div></div>

SanJ
06-01-2005, 12:11 AM
<P>Weapons haven't been addressed much yet .. so,</P> <P>One of the great weapons in the high teens is a Dwarven X of Cleansing, where X could be a warhammer, longsword, mace, etc.  The item has a decent proc for the level and the quest in Firemyst Gulley is an absolute blast.  The items may be sold, so if you're into twinking and don't want to quest, just buy one from the broker.</P> <P>If you can afford the quest item "Sword of Thunder", probably 1-5 plat depending on your server, you could purchase this quest drop and complete the quest for "Berik's Sword of Thunder".  It would be hard to argue another item in the low to mid 20's with better overall stats.  Likewise, it may be combined after level 40 with a heritage quest to create a new, more powerful sword, so lifecycle of usefulness is grand.</P> <P>Starfall, another quest item dropped from Centuar Hunters in TS, is a great item.  The completed quest reward "Starfall" is a very nice one-handed crushing weapon in the upper 20's - low 30's.</P> <P>You'd have to quest for Weakened Ghoulbane and ultimately Ghoulbane, but either sword, equippable at 32 will start beating out Starfall's stats.</P> <P>The two-handed category offers a lot of choice especially with imbued items that proc in both the crushing and slashing categories.  Any rare tier item (steel, feysteel, ebon) crafted into a one or two hander will have decent stats.</P> <P>I would start by studying the broker regularly for yellow to orange con weaponary in both slashing and crushing categories to determine the items that will best meet your needs.</P> <P>Thanks,<BR>Kalen</P>

Hamervelder
06-06-2005, 02:19 PM
<DIV>Feysteel or Feyiron - I forget which.  It looks just like the Orc Marauder stuff. </DIV>

SanJ
06-06-2005, 05:05 PM
<P>Feyiron is the common tier 4 harvest.  Feysteel is the rare tier 4 harvest.  Feysteel Vanguard is superior to Feyiron Vanguard.  However, there is quite a coin difference in price <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Thanks,<BR>Kalen</P>

RSta
06-06-2005, 06:46 PM
<div></div><div></div><font color="#ff0000">Feysteel or Feyiron - I forget which.  It looks just like the Orc Marauder stuff. <font color="#66ff00">'chuckles' Well the OP was looking for what is the best not what looks good, and yes some drop items are better then the crafted items at certain levels.  Without looking at the OM BP and Leggings I'd still guess that the crafted imbued (common) items would do a better job in the long run. Forgot to mention this, the dwarven work boots are better then pristine forged steel sabatons, as is Spindlecogs Helm vs. a prinstine forged steel Barabute (sp?). </font> </font><div></div><p><span class="time_text"> </span></p><p>Message Edited by RStahl on <span class=date_text>06-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:49 AM</span>

Korza
06-07-2005, 07:22 AM
<P>Well for weapons I can give you the run down of the best. Both as a weapon smith and paladin.</P> <P>For levels 10-20 Blacken iron X ( X= weapon of choice ), 2 quests both a cake walk. Q side only. Snakes skins for Weapons guy in Graystone yard. Gives you a choice of a blackened iron weapon. Good till 20 if you have to. But better to use till about 15 or so. In the same building is a lady that gives a quest for killing blood sabers. Need to kill 4 of them the ones in the first level of down below are fine and con gray at level 10. Weapons are all crushed based but good till 20 and can be equiped at level 12. </P> <P>For levels 20 Steel X , Or fire gully quest which can be started at 13 from dwarf at claymore monument. The rare will have slightly better stats but damage is pretty much the same both proc as was mentioned before. </P> <P>For 30-40 Feysteel X, Ghouls bane is a very nice weapon even rivals the rare crafted ones but no proc. Can't equip till 32 but your weapon from previous levels should be ok. There is a quest in Zek  for the life of me I can't remember which one it was but don't recall it being that tough where you get a pretty decent 1-h hammer. Has the same damage as Weakened Ghouls bane but stats are slightly lower. </P> <P>For 40-50 There are several weapons from quests still have not sorted them all out or would give you a list. Of course the ebon crafted weapons are great till you get one of the quests ones.</P> <P>And yes it basicly sucks being a weaponsmith when someone can get a much better weapon for free or just spending time on a quest. The rare weapons are the only thing we can make that compare to the quest weapons and some of them just barely or as a filler till you get the quest weapon. The limits to the quest weapons is you only get one type for the quest so if you do choose to keep types of other weapons on you for those mobs that resist other types ( recommend by the way ). Then you get the quest weapon and use that most of the time and then switch off to your secondary weapon if you have to. Can switch mid combat with no problem. As for keeping both a 1-h and a 2-h on hand. I personally never saw the need, I have been 1-h since level 20 or so and never have had a problem with it. </P>

HadleysHope
06-21-2005, 04:35 PM
<P>anyone reccomend where I can get "<FONT color=#66ff00>Imbued blackened Iron<FONT color=#ffffff>" armor? aprox cost? (am lvl 13 right now, and in Quenos).  Could someone also explain what "</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>(1hd vs 2hd)</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>" means? Also, what is the best avoidance I can expect to have around this level, its at 49 right now as I have a sheild.</FONT></P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks</P>

Titali
06-21-2005, 07:47 PM
<DIV>1hd = 1hand, 2hd = 2hand, 1hs = 1hand slash, 2hs = 2hand slash, 1hb = 1hand blunt, 2hb = 2hand blunt. also 1hp/2hp for piercing, but there arent currently any 2hand piercers so piercers are just thought to be 1h, for now.</DIV>

Phatt
06-21-2005, 10:47 PM
<div></div>The best shield that I have found for level 30+ is called the Guard of Grumm. Its a FABLED shield that you get inside Nek Castle. Look up the quest "Aroma of Undead" on eq2.ogaming.com. It has some really nice stats and the loot table for the enemies is amazing. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Phattie on <span class=date_text>06-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:28 AM</span>

Coho1
06-22-2005, 09:24 PM
 For lower 30's what about the silvril thats laying all over Zek? <DIV> I got most of set just outside the gates. DWB are better so I kept them as were the gloves I had.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Coho1 on <span class=date_text>06-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:26 AM</span>

Pilo
06-23-2005, 03:46 AM
I was looking at the charts here: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=commnews&message.id=3891 And I'm coming up on level 30.  I'm sitting on a small fortune due to a few SoT drops while soloing Stormhold (I guess I'm lucky) and I want to get at least two pieces of feysteel and the rest feyiron.  Anyway, it seems to me if I'm going to get only two feysteel pieces I should get chest and shoulders, not the usual chest and legs.  I know if I get the legs imbued I get that proc -- but it isn't really a remarkable proc as I see it.  Stats seem to be much more important to me.  Am I right in thinking this? Also--I'm not sure where to go for shield and weapon.  I'm currently working on Ghoulbane ~ will this be viable at 32 when I can use it?  Or would I be better off with an imbued feysteel or even a imbued feyiron.  Of course, I don't just carry around one weapon but I only like to spend good money on one and get the others on the cheap. And I'm not sure where I should go on shield.  I remember there being a heritage quest for a shield somewhere around this level -- but I can't seem to get ogaming to work right now -- which one was it?  Or am I remembering something wrong? <div></div>

Antryg Mistrose
06-23-2005, 03:28 PM
<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>You might be thinking of the Training is a Shield quest for the Shiny Brass Shield.  It's not equipable until level 40 though.  Suggest you look through the sticky thread on Kite Shields for a substiture  - this is at the top of the Paladin forum: http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=10&message.id=3900 BTW  Ghoulbane is not easy - The Cauldron Hollow part needs a raid, and i've currently spent a few hours killing Ire Minions and Warlocks in vain for the Crypt of Betrayal part. For "free" weapons, Shiny Brass Halberd is a nice two hander weapon, useful at 28/29? and the quest is pretty easy - soloable up to the last mob. One of the EL or Zek boatrides (forget which) drops a nice hammer too.  And don't throw away that Sword of Thunder (you did keep one?) when you outgrow it, it can be made into an Electrified Bone Bladed Claymore. Agree with you on shoulders - I remember seeing in game they have impressive wisdom stats on imbued (currently more important for a templar, but coming combat changes will helps our defense), I can't see a website with them though.<p>Message Edited by Antryg Mistrose on <span class=date_text>06-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:55 AM</span>

Syf
06-23-2005, 07:20 PM
<DIV>The Polished Granite Tomahawk would also be a nice addition. The damage isn't fantastic, since it's a dual wield weapon, but the proc is nice. You can use it until you get the ghoulbane. The ghoulbane rocks, even the weakened one is nice.</DIV>

Paintball33
06-23-2005, 08:39 PM
at 38 i currently use Gaurd of Grumm as my shield and my Ghoulbane. I used to use Shiny Brass Halberd for the longest time, till I recently did the Operation Greenhood quest in Zek and picked up a Mammoth for my new 2hd. Once I hit 40 I plan to go for EBBC and screaming mace, plus either fire or a crafted axe/sword for slashing 1hd. Shield wise I'll use SBS since all I have left to do is kill Fyst (we got a raid together yesterday and were down to the jail room when there was a MAJOR bug where the enemies wouldn't stop coming....so of course we all eventually died and gave up and walked away with 10% debt >.<  ) <p>Message Edited by Paintball3325 on <span class=date_text>06-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:40 AM</span>

BlackW
06-23-2005, 10:36 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pilot2 wrote:<BR> Hello, I'm relatively new to all this and I've spent some time digging around through the forums for a while and I'm left with a few questions because the information is so scattered out there.<BR><BR>Basically, assuming cost is no object, what armor should I be wearing at what level?  And assuming cost is an object and I'd want to get something a little bit cheaper and quest for better stuff down the line..?<BR><BR>1.  From what I understand, in the 10s, the best player-made armor is the <I>Pristine Blackened Iron Chainmail</I>?  What is the "best" weapon?<BR><BR>2.  In the 20s, again at a relatively low cost, is the Pristine Forged Steel Vanguard?  Is this right?  What is a step down?  What components would I need to give to an armorer (I'm not a tradeskiller but I know plenty) to get this to work for me?  If it isn't right, what is?  Also, again, what is the "best" weapon?<BR><BR>3.  In the 30s,<I> Pristine Forged Feysteel Vanguard</I>?  Feyiron if I want to save $$?  Same Qs as #2: components?  Also, what weapon?<BR><BR>I'm not worried about anything past that, I'm sure I'll have figured it out by then.  I've got a Crusader now just finished with Betrayal (dark elf) and I'm about to make a Paladin and I'd like to deck it out if possible.  This twinking is a lot more complicated than EQ1, unfortunately.<BR><BR>Sorry, I know its a lot of questions -- maybe if you answer them I'll write them simply I can write them up into a nice little guide that can be referenced in the future..<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR> <P>Message Edited by Pilot2 on <SPAN class=date_text>05-27-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:14 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I dont buy rare armor at all.  I am expecting to quest my tier5 rare armor.   A rare shield and weapon can be a good investment.   The best investment you can make, especially after the combat upgrade is going to be Adept III and Master spells and combat arts.</P> <P>The Ghoulbane (Restoring the Ghoulbane HQ) is a good tier4 and lower tier5 weapon.   The shiny brass shield (Training is a Shield HQ) is a good tier5 shield.   Save your coin in tiers1 and 2, dont waste it on expensive crafted items.   You can quest your armor in tier3 (class Armor quest, Ian Calthan, Qeynos Harbor).   It is good to have at lease 1 legendary weapon for named heroic and epic mobs.   </P>

Iustus
06-27-2005, 09:59 AM
<DIV>Well, I went the opposite route. I had a full set of steel, a full set of feysteel and a full set of ebon at each tier. I thought there was quite a difference between myself tanking and people with poorer gear. This was before you could imbue, which makes things even better.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With imbued weapons, I would say most tradeskill weapons are better than all but the top quest weapons (and of course fabled weapons).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My advice is, number one, do the following two searchs on the broker every day:</DIV> <DIV>min skill: Obsolete (grey)</DIV> <DIV>max skill: barely begun (orange)</DIV> <DIV>Tier: Fabled</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>min skill: good match (white)</DIV> <DIV>max skill: barely begun (orange)</DIV> <DIV>Tier: Legendary</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do the first one all the way back to grey, because i want to catch low level master spells.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok, beyond that, I would go with tradeskill made items when you cannot find drop/quest fabled for those slots</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>tier2 (levels 10-19): blackened iron (armor/weapons, common is iron), bone shield (common is maple)</DIV> <DIV>tier3 (levels 20-29): steel (common is carbonite), fir (common is elm)</DIV> <DIV>tier4 (levels 30-39): feysteel (common is feyiron), oak (common is ash)</DIV> <DIV>tier5 (levels 40-50): ebon (common is fulginate), cedar (common is briarwood)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You want to find an armorer to make your armor, a weaponsmith to make weapons, and a woodworker (not a carpenter) to make your shields.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The two good ways to find someone of each skill is to use the broker to look for people selling both the common and rare of that tier, and then examine the item to see who made it, because the person who made it may be different than the vendor selling it (but all items will say who made them).. The second way is to use the "/who all armorer" etc searches. You can also do "/who all armorer LFW" but that is not really necessary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At each tier, armorers need to be to halfway point (level 15 for tier 2, 25 for tier 3, etc) to make the common bps, and all the way to the last level (19 tier2, 29 tier3, etc) in order to make the rare bps and to imbue anything. Weaponsmiths vary, but long swords and greatswords require max level (19/29/etc), and all imbues require max level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One thing to remember is common items can be imbued as well, and they make a big difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>The number one thing you do not want to go without as a tank is an imbued bp.</STRONG> Common or rare, make sure it is imbued. Note, you can buy a cheep non-imbued bp and as long as you do not attune it, you can get a tradeskiller to imbue it for you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You need the following items to imbue something:</DIV> <DIV>tier2: glowing (tooth/fish scale/stone/flower/) which you need an alchemist to make into an extract (or just buy the extract)</DIV> <DIV>tier3: sparkling xxx</DIV> <DIV>tier4: glowing xxx</DIV> <DIV>tier5: luminous xxx</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ok, I would also get imbued legs, common or rare materials, get them imbued.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You absolutely want to get your shield imbued. Common or rare, make sure it is imbued, that is extra free dps, do it. It stacks with the imbue on legs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And similarly, with weapons, you cannot go wrong with an imbued rare weapon. The main reason you want a rare is because some big mobs (epic mobs, raids, etc) require a LEGENDARY quality weapon or better, which means either a good drop, heritage item, or rare tradeskill weapon. Of these, rare tradeskill will be cheaper than FABLED weapons, and a lot less work than most heritage items.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now, to the 1h vs 2h debate. You will do a lot more damage with two handed (2h) weapons. But when you use a shield, you will deflect a lot more blows, so tank a lot better. So most people try to keep at least one weapon of each type, and use depending on the situation. If you are in a full group, with lots of dps, then going 1h does not hurt the whole group dps much. If you are fighting mobs that hurt you a lot, then using a shield will help a lot, especially if you have someone else doing the dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you want to save money, you can go with a rare weapon for one type (1h or 2h) and go with a cheep common (but imbued) for the other. Always get your tradeskill weapons imbued, makes a huge difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As far as your overall strategy, you have to decide where you want to spend your money. Do you want to save it all up and spend it when you get to level 40? Or do you want to spend it all now and expect to make more by the time you get to 40? Or do you want some kind of balance?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The first question to ask is how long you are going to spend at each tier? Are you going to spend a month going from level 20 to level 30? A week? One day? It makes a lot more sense to spend 1p on gear when you hit 20 if you think it will take you a month to hit 30. If you could somehow do it in one day, it would definitely not make sense to spend that much, unless you were truely rich.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here is an idea of prices, on my server, so you can get an idea, you might want to work backward. Think what you will need at level 40, if you plan on being there relatively soon, see how much more you think you can make from now till then, and then you can see how much extra you have to spend on tier4 and tier3 and possibly even tier2 gear.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tier5:</DIV> <DIV>ebon: 225g per piece</DIV> <DIV>cedar: 30-50g per piece</DIV> <DIV>ruby/rhodium: (for adept3s, figure you gonna want about 10): 100g</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tier4:</DIV> <DIV>feysteel: 30-40g per piece</DIV> <DIV>oak: 15-20g per piece</DIV> <DIV>opal/ruthenium: (adept3s, figure about 5-10): 40-80g</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tier3:</DIV> <DIV>steel: 20-30g per piece</DIV> <DIV>fir: 20-30g per piece</DIV> <DIV>jasper/palladium: (adept3s, amount varies on how fast you level): 30-40g</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now these are the prices based on a search I did today of the market. Prices do fluxuate a lot, and this is my server only, you should check on your server. When the tier6 stuff arrives in september, the tier5 prices should drop a lot.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fabled items sell from 50g for Guard of Grumm (nice shield in your 30s) to 20p for some items that im not sure anyone could afford. Do a search on tier "Fabled" on your server. Fabled items are typically going to be better than the rare tradeskill items from the same tier.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another rule of thumb is the rare item from one tier is about as good as the common item from the next higher tier.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hope this helps,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-I</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Iustus on <span class=date_text>06-26-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:14 PM</span>

Iustus
06-27-2005, 10:10 AM
<P>Speaking of gear, I totally forgot to mention the whole right side of your inventory, for those slots, you want a jewelcrafter. They can make items for all 7 slots (including belt).</P> <P>The rares for each tier will be the same as listed above for adept3s, except for belts which have 4 possiblities, you can get the silk (very light) and leather (light) types for belts as well (but all 4 have the same mitigation values, just different stats). </P> <P>You want to get imbued rings, at a minimum. These give you click buffs which last 20 min, and stay on, even if you swap out the ring. I recommend getting 3 rings, STA, AGI and STR, but you can get WIS as well if you want to splurge (clicking 4 rings every 20 min can get very tedious, I usually do not bother to click my WIS ring).</P> <P>Neck slot has a lot of quest choices that are typically better than jewelcraft items, I recommend the enchanted bone necklace. For belt at level 42 you will probably be using a flowing black silk sash heritage item.</P> <P>In addition to the jewelry items, you will want to get a tailor to make you some hex dolls. These use the silk (very light) rare. The three hex dolls I use (note you can only equip 2 at a time in your activatable slots) are STA (melee defense debuff), AGI (snare), STR (slow). Hex dolls give stats when equipped, and also have click effects that cast debuffs on mobs. Since a Manastone is also really useful in a lot of situations, I often keep it and my STR doll equipped for general use. For heavy tanking, I use AGI and STA dolls. I know a lot of guardians that use two STA dolls on raids, but since i switch so much, i only got one STA doll. I use the slow click the most (STR), the melee debuff some (STA) and just about never use the snare (AGI) click.</P> <P>Hex dolls use the imbue component and a silk component, so for tier5, you would need a figwart and a luminous. </P> <DIV>Hope this helps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-I</DIV>