New WIS requirements in your future

[Platfing]

<DIV>So, it looks like all these new combat changes coming soon will be changing the importance of WIS when going against casters.  In other words, the higher your WIS (relative to the INT of the mob), the less damage you will take.  I'm curious though... for those of you that are level 40+, what are your current WIS values.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm 44 and my WIS is only 85 self-buffed.  </DIV>

[Boli32]

Mine is 100 selfbuffed at lvl 36.5 I have been racking up the STR, PWR, WIS gear since lvl 24 where I decided I was goign full out for as much power as possible. The Guard of Gromm certinaly helps things along though <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Wallzak]

Mine is around 117 self buffed at 41, again, I've known that wisdom is a good thing, and have been making choices accordingly.

[Platfing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sammcduff wrote:<BR>Mine is around 117 self buffed at 41, again, I've known that wisdom is a good thing, and have been making choices accordingly. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Known it from where?  It's been shown that up until now it only adds very little to power pool compared to STR.  Am I missing something here?

[Boli32]

<div></div>In the rulebook (I'm not saying you haven't but it is surprising how many peopel never read the thing <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />), a Pallys primary stats are STRENGTH and WISDOM. EQ2 I had allways reasoned never gave you the full information on what everything EXACTLY does... after all take the old AC number - so I have allways strived to increase STENGTH and WISDOM the same.  I even chose that ring of Wisdom from the condemned catacombs over the ring of Stamina -  so glad I made that choice now. <div></div><p>Message Edited by boli on <span class=date_text>05-18-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:02 PM</span>

[Platfing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> boli wrote:<BR> In the rulebook (I'm not saying you haven't but it is surprising how many peopel never read the thing <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />), a Pallys primary stats are STRENGTH and WISDOM.<BR><BR>EQ2 I had allways reasoned never gave you the full information on what everything EXACTLY does... after all take the old AC number - so I have allways strived to increase STENGTH and WISDOM the same.<BR>  <BR>I even chose that ring of Wisdom from the condemned catacombs over the ring of Stamina -  so glad I made that choice now.<BR> <P>Message Edited by boli on <SPAN class=date_text>05-18-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:02 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>What about STA and AGI?  Everything that I have read on this board (and I have been reading this board a long time) always insisted that STR, AGI, and STA were the most important attributes.  I have never seen a post where a high-level paladin stressed upgrading their WIS gear. </P> <P>Edit:  wanted to add that the rulebook had more errors in it than EQ2 had bugs at release (ok maybe not that  many but it sure did/does have a bunch)<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by Platfinger on <SPAN class=date_text>05-18-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:17 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Platfinger on <span class=date_text>05-18-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:20 PM</span>

[Boli32]

Strength and wisdom have allways being our primary stats... and as I have lent more towrds the spell casting paladin, I have allways chosen (in order   STRENGTH > POWER > WISDOM), I reasoned a while back that what I lost in STA (health) I would find more useful as power (heals , nukes buffs etc.) - especially if I found myself playing the off-tank role more and more. <div></div>

[Platfing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> boli wrote:<BR>Strength and wisdom have allways being our primary stats... and as I have lent more towrds the spell casting paladin, I have allways chosen (in order   STRENGTH > POWER > WISDOM), I reasoned a while back that what I lost in STA (health) I would find more useful as power (heals , nukes buffs etc.) - especially if I found myself playing the off-tank role more and more.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If that is the case, then can someone please tell me exactly what WIS currently does for paladins (other than add a very small boost to the power pool when compared to the boost from STR). 

[Boli32]

reduces fizziles - the only spell I have that seems to fizzile is Call to Qeynos. As I said earlier SOE are big on making aspects of the game hidden so I wouln't be too surprised if it did something else as well. <div></div>

[Platfing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> boli wrote:<BR>reduces fizziles - the only spell I have that seems to fizzile is Call to Qeynos.<BR><BR>As I said earlier SOE are big on making aspects of the game hidden so I wouln't be too surprised if it did something else as well.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I don't have a problem with fizzles.  <BR>

[Troodon]

This does have potential to help differentiate the roles of the Fighter classes: Warriors emphasising tanking against single melee opponents; Brawlers against multiple melee opponents with thier high avoidance and thus avoiding constant interruption; and Crusaders against magic using oppoenents? <div></div>

[Paintball33]

just kinda wondering...would wisdome increase the dmg our spells do? or is that intelligence?

[Korza]

Wisdom also effects in combat power regen.

[tde]

Your power pool come from STR - 66%, WIS - 33% <DIV>Plus your WIS is how fast your power pool regens in combat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LVL 49</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Self Buff: WIS - 147</DIV> <DIV>                STR - 149</DIV> <DIV>                STA - 144</DIV> <DIV>                The others all low 100's</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Awlis]

<P>oo dear <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>I have over 200 str but about 85 wisdom at lvl 43.. always gone the strenght route for power pool.. saying that It can be changed over time</P>

[GilfalasElaandrin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> tdeak wrote:<BR>Your power pool come from STR - 66%, WIS - 33% <DIV>Plus your WIS is how fast your power pool regens in combat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Has this 'Wisdom boosts in combat power regen' been tested anywhere? Where is this information coming from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And at level 35 I haev abotu a 117 Wisdom, self buffed if I remember right. One of the benefits of being a high elf I suppose. </DIV>

[Platfing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GilfalasElaandrin wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> tdeak wrote:<BR>Your power pool come from STR - 66%, WIS - 33% <DIV>Plus your WIS is how fast your power pool regens in combat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Has this 'Wisdom boosts in combat power regen' been tested anywhere? Where is this information coming from?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And at level 35 I haev abotu a 117 Wisdom, self buffed if I remember right. One of the benefits of being a high elf I suppose. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I was wondering this myself.  It must be a very very small increase in the rate (if it's working at all). 

[Korza]

<DIV>The regen in combat of power can be seen  in a long fight. To test it you do need a long fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The best way to see it happen is by buffing your wisdom with a food item and do a fight. Buff with a diffrent food item and repeat on the same mob. This is how I tested it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I got about 3-4 extra attacks with my wisdom buffed then I did with not buffed. Fighting a single pull giant ^^ with my templar buddy as back up. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We won both fights and the diffrence in time was marginal. But the extra couple of specials was nice. Even if they where not needed in that fight to win. And while not 100% scientific. It was good enough for my purposes to know that I could do a slight bit more in a longer fight then with it buffed then not. I tried to keep to the same specials at the same time but the only way I could do that 100% would have been to macro the whole sequence of specials and combat can be a bit fluid to do that and live. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So wisdom boosting foods would be good to have on hand when your doing raids. From my non imperical testing data. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Your higher wisdom should also affect out of combat regen but I have not fully that yet. But should be easy enough to test if you can run your power out when you have no drink buff. buff with wisdom buff food then time your regen. Repeat the test with no wisdom buffing food and that should let you see it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Renn]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><span><blockquote><hr>tdeak wrote:Your power pool come from STR - 66%, WIS - 33% <div>Plus your WIS is how fast your power pool regens in combat.</div> <div> </div> <div>LVL 49</div> <div> </div> <div>Self Buff: WIS - 147</div> <div>                STR - 149</div> <div>                STA - 144</div> <div>                The others all low 100's</div> <div> </div> <div> </div><hr></blockquote>Don't spread misinformation. I don't have exact numbers, but Wisdom is NOT 33%, its far less. Its closer to 25% or less. And I DO have exact numbers on combat regeneration, it is a flat 1% of your total power pool. Wisdom of 1, or Wisdom of 200, its a flat 1%.</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Rennyn on <span class=date_text>05-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:28 PM</span>

[tde]

<P>I was sure I read a red name posted that info, but sent I can't find it, i must be crazy.</P> <P>So I did a little testing, and it looks like str is about 3.4 per point and wis is a little over 1.</P> <P>Sorry for the wrong info above, a paladin must admit when he wrong.</P> <P>                                                                                                                         </P>

[WAPCE]

Edit: Need to read the whole thread before posting. My bad.<p>Message Edited by WAPCE on <span class=date_text>05-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:13 AM</span>

[Titali]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rennyn wrote:<BR> <SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> tdeak wrote:<BR>Your power pool come from STR - 66%, WIS - 33% <DIV>Plus your WIS is how fast your power pool regens in combat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LVL 49</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Self Buff: WIS - 147</DIV> <DIV>                STR - 149</DIV> <DIV>                STA - 144</DIV> <DIV>                The others all low 100's</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Don't spread misinformation. I don't have exact numbers, but Wisdom is NOT 33%, its far less. Its closer to 25% or less. And I DO have exact numbers on combat regeneration, it is a flat 1% of your total power pool. Wisdom of 1, or Wisdom of 200, its a flat 1%.<BR></SPAN> <P>Message Edited by Rennyn on <SPAN class=date_text>05-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:28 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>rennyn is exactly correct

[Juta]

<P>Wisdom affects numerous things not yet mentioned here.  Fizzles have been mentioned, but beyond that it affects the potency of your spells, whether it be DD, buff, heal or ward.  You can test this for yourself.</P> <P>Pick a spell such as one of the DD divine nukes (not a combat art that does divine damage).  Examine it while you do not have your wis gear on, then examine it after you boost your wis with gear or spells or whatever.  You will see in the examine window that your damage will go up.  Works the same for healing and wards etc...</P> <P>This is the same for combat arts and str.  If you boost your str you will see your damage go up on your combat art skills when you examine them with no str gear and then again with str gear.</P>

[Korza]

<P>Rennyn,</P> <P>Where did you get your data? Who gave you these numbers or how did you come up with them? Not that I doubting the vality or truth of them but would like to know where or how you arrived at them. I gave my test setup and admited it was not a 100% scientific but did post how I arrived at my data. </P>

[Titali]

go naked, get in a fight, mana regens 1% per tick. buff up your wis, mana will regen 1% per tick. in your 40s (and this is level dependant, the #s, but not the ratio) you get about 3mana / 1str and 1mana / 1wis. play with your equipment and you will notice this.