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Jindris
04-19-2005, 05:06 AM
<DIV>Why do so many kite shields, and nearly ALL kite shields past level 40 have a crapload of INT instead of something useful to us kite shield users?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One more slap in the face for us Paladins to go along with the empty ranged slot, future shield/parry neft, Horse nerf... Why not just bury us in the ground SOE!</DIV>

eyes007
04-19-2005, 08:22 AM
<P>You know what!!! They're discriminating us!!! They think we're dumb and need as much intelligence as we can to compensate. It's a bit like making a Size 20 Heel for a woman with big feet when we all know women try to fit their feet in shoes half the size if not smaller!</P> <P>Oh I know I'll get a hiding for that....</P> <P>Errr....</P> <P>Maybe I do need that intelligence!</P>

Miracole
04-19-2005, 03:34 PM
kite shield version of Shiny Brass Shield.... you don't even have to carry a torch anymore, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go do the heritage quest if you havent' already done it. and go trade your buckler sbh if you have already done the quest. either that or go raid or buy kite shield of the king, which.... yeah you get my point <div></div>

Khrump
04-19-2005, 04:08 PM
<P>Just a thought here,,,,,,int = power,,,,,,power equals more damage?</P> <P> </P> <P>Why do you think the mage's all want +int gear?</P>

Platfing
04-19-2005, 05:08 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khrump wrote:<BR> <P>Just a thought here,,,,,,int = power,,,,,,power equals more damage?</P> <P> </P> <P>Why do you think the mage's all want +int gear?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Actually, not true for Paladins.  STR and WIS give power.  I do not know if INT does anything at all. 

Majorminor
04-19-2005, 05:23 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khrump wrote:<BR> <P>Just a thought here,,,,,,int = power,,,,,,power equals more damage?</P> <P> </P> <P>Why do you think the mage's all want +int gear?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I wanna see the kite shield weilding mage <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our power comes from str. and wis.</DIV> <DIV>Though the greater power gain is from str.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bah Plat beat me to the punch</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Majorminor on <SPAN class=date_text>04-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:25 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>edited again when I was more awake hehe.</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Majorminor on <span class=date_text>04-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:13 PM</span>

MeridianR
04-19-2005, 06:38 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Majorminor wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Khrump wrote: <p>Just a thought here,,,,,,int = power,,,,,,power equals more damage?</p> <p>Why do you think the mage's all want +int gear?</p> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <div>I wanna see the kite shield weilding mage <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <div> </div> <div>Our power comes from str. and wis.</div> <div>Though the greater power gain is from str.</div> <div>Though that is true for themor power comes from</div> <div>Str..</div> <div>and some Wis.</div> <div> </div> <div>Bah Plat beat me to the punch</div><p>Message Edited by Majorminor on <span class="date_text">04-19-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:25 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Exactly, hence why SBS Kite > Cedar IMO   </span><div></div>

Titali
04-19-2005, 08:06 PM
<DIV>this is one thing that pisses me off most about this game. basically all equipment has the same set of stats. bps al have agi/str, gloevs have agi/wis, helms, int/str. its like that for EVERY slot, real *$%#&!ing original sony. they have made it so you cant focus on any stats and force you to use them all. like int, which is totally worthless to most everyone and same for wis. fighters get it the worst i think, outside of crusaders because a warrior or a brawler will for sure never use int or wis. a priest/mage/scout can all use agi for avoidance, str to carry crap, sta for hp. but yeah, its like this for every single item. check out the broker and search by slot, even with greys sometime. youll see that through the levels that each item is the same, its just the bonus for each stat is a bit more, hardly any mixing and matching.</DIV>

FieryFurnace
04-19-2005, 08:43 PM
Have you noticed your resists get a boost from +INT items?

Titali
04-19-2005, 09:11 PM
<DIV>no i have not, i will have to look into that, thanks for pointing that out. in any case, you should still be able to get what stats you want on equipment and not some set scale for everything, thats my main beef.</DIV>

Daydeee
04-19-2005, 09:22 PM
<P>way badly stacked in ratio str to wis, its about 95% str 5% wis in terms of power, wisdom I believe increases the likelyhood of making a resist v xyz sbs kite shield 11str 19 power i belive is greater than the cedar 13odd wis 35odd power... by o about 100odd roughly, what a waste... sigh hehe...</P> <P>not to mention the 50raw hp and 10sta on sbs kite.. </P> <P>and the style of running around using a hoplon...</P> <P>only thing that i think would make me change is a kite shield of the king.. 15str 15wis lots of hp pwr</P> <P>Marcellus<BR>Lvl 50 paladin<BR>Splitpaw</P>

Miracole
04-21-2005, 03:48 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Khrump wrote:<p>Just a thought here,,,,,,int = power,,,,,,power equals more damage?</p> <p>Why do you think the mage's all want +int gear?</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>cuz they are mages! HAHAHAHAHAHA. are paladins mages?</span><div></div>

Titali
04-22-2005, 07:37 PM
<DIV>ok INT does not seem to affect my resists at all. i was skeptical on this to begin with, but i gave it a look and nothing.</DIV>

Jindris
04-23-2005, 11:25 AM
<DIV>Ah... ok nice... whats the stats on SBS? I'm up to the part where I need to kill the DFC boss but I was at work when our guild raided it. Hope they raid it again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have been considering getting a cedar kite shield crafted but I may not is SBS is better.</DIV>

jshari
04-27-2005, 08:51 AM
lol i was just thinkng this today when  was looking for an upgrade to my shield, the only 1 i could find was 1 alot more int. we dont need int grr. as for the ranged slot, we need somting to replace it, anything. <div></div>