knight's Stance vs Shining Beacon -- OHH BOY

[Cloudcr]

<DIV>Knight's stance at adept 1: </DIV> <DIV>+5 to all shields</DIV> <DIV>+6 to defense</DIV> <DIV>+15 AC</DIV> <DIV>-5 to crushing, etc</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Shining Beacon at adept 1:</DIV> <DIV>no shield bonus</DIV> <DIV>+7 to defense </DIV> <DIV>+5 AC</DIV> <DIV>-5 to crushing, etc</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wow some upgrade!, yes i know it will improve with level up but come on!, +1 to defense over Knigth's Stance at adept 1? and NO shields bonus?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Getting tired of useless skills, same goes for the stupid Blindling light and smite prayer, those are only taunts, the "decreases resistance to divine" DOES NOTHING, I've tested it a LONG time, no difference in damage, no difference in spells being resisted or not. </DIV><p>Message Edited by Cloudcrak on <span class=date_text>12-20-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:06 PM</span>

[Talmi]

<DIV>Yeah there seem to be alot of skills with incorrect effects and crummy returns. My favorite mistake doesnt isnt that the skill is totally useless... just upgrading from app 1 to adept 1 did absolutely nothing. Prayer of Devotion at level 30 gave 6 or 8 wisdom and 50 power at app 1. At adept 1 it gives 7 or 9 wisdom and 58 power. That was really worth my 80 silver.</DIV>

[Cloudcr]

<DIV>yes I tested prayer of devotion too, there was NO wisdom bonus difference between app1 and adept1, the only difference is adept 1 gave about 12 more power as I remember</DIV>

[Renn]

My only thought to this seems to be that Shining Beacon was meant to be used almost purely for the Hate increase, which it seems to do decently. Although the lack of Shield skill bonus really does hurt. I was in Runnyeye today tanking mobs 10+ levels higher than me, and I switched between Shining Beacon and Knight's Stance a few times.. definately took much less damage with Knight's Stance, but I kept aggro much better with Shining Beacon. Ended up stayingw ith Shining Beacon just because it was sometimes hard to keep aggro on those red red mobs when I had some major dps classes in the group.

[Cloudcr]

<DIV>I see, so basically just another skill only useful when grouping. How many skills now only useful in groups? Don't we have like 15 taunts by the time we reach 50. I think we need like 20 more taunt skills, and 10 more skills that either add AC to someone else or rescue them by giving you more aggro, ohh wait thats a taunt too. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I leveled again (31) and my shining beacon has not improved at all, still +7 to defense. If it increases +1 to defense every two levels, then shining beacon may still be worth it but if it stays at +7, total crap. But that is a big IF. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, the reason knight's stance might have been better for you (you took less damage) is because you didn't keep aggro like with shining beacon. If you keep aggro you get hit more, hence knigth's stance seems better. Maybe</DIV>

[RioR]

<DIV>This seems to be a growing problem with our class post level 20. There seems to be a large amount of useless spells/abilities given to us. I hope this is something that SOE is looking into and will fix soon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cloudcr]

<DIV>Yea it appears alot of skills over 30 are also broken, like all damage over time spells/skills. </DIV><p>Message Edited by Cloudcrak on <span class=date_text>12-21-2004</span> <span class=time_text>02:28 PM</span>

[Ma]

<DIV>The only DoT i didnt see any effect from is Holy Sunder.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But i agree with everything said here, if all we are getting as paladins when we lvl are upgrades to a skill/spell we allready had, then why spend the time upgrading to adepts?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems like Sony either should give us new spells when we lvl (not only upgrades to older ones) and let US do the upgrading of the spells, and the fact that upgrading a spell to adept doesnt yield anything is just another reason why this is starting to be a bit absurd.</DIV>