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Dea
12-18-2004, 10:33 AM
<DIV> <P><BR></P><IMG height=1 alt="" src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/p.gif" width=1 border=0><BR> <DIV>While I can grudgingly understand why Crusaders and Paladins cannot use missile/thrown weopons we should be able to use a spear.  Historically and in every roleplaying system I've ever played they spear has always been an option.  I was rather annoyed to find that I couldn't use a spear (read lance) from the back of my horse!  The weopon restriction is quite severe, we can only use Sword or Mallet.  We cannot use dagger, axe, spear, staff, thrown weopons or missile weopons.  We also cannot dual weopons though why not has me befuddled. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What annoys me the most is that access to weopons (or the lack of it) would have affected the class I chose.  I chose Paladin as, according to the manual (both with the box set and "updated" online version) we should have access to the following; Axe, Sword, Polearm, Flail, Hammer, Mace, Staff and more.  It should just read Sword, Flail, Hammer Mace.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They should correct this error more poeple don't spend wasted time trying to figure out why they cannot use a bow or spear or whatever! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Crusaders/Paladins should be able to use spear (lance) and dual weopons at least.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That's my gripe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Elfric, lvl 20 Paladin</DIV></DIV>

Drik
12-18-2004, 10:53 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deask wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P>What annoys me the most is that access to weopons (or the lack of it) would have affected the class I chose.  I chose Paladin as, according to the manual (both with the box set and "updated" online version) we should have access to the following; Axe, Sword, Polearm, Flail, Hammer, Mace, Staff and more.  It should just read Sword, Flail, Hammer Mace.<BR> <HR> </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>I too was dissapointed to find out the manual was incorrect.  I'm a dwarf, I want to use my axe!  Getting a horse helped make up for the loss of my beloved axe though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

Dea
12-18-2004, 11:52 AM
<DIV>A Dwarf who cannot use an axe, who ever heard of such a thing!  Goes to show that the weopon restriction on Crusaders/Paladins is a bit to restrictive.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Chri
12-20-2004, 03:17 AM
<DIV>What kills me is that they have now released an updated and supposedly 'correct' manual.  it still shows that paladins can use "Axe, Sword, Polearm, Flail, Hammer, Mace, Staff, and more".  I'd really like to know why I can't use those items.   the ability to use pretty much any weapon is what made me want to be a paladin over a guardian.  It's also why I haven't played at all the last 3 weeks.  I was hoping that with the big update they'd give those items back to us.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Goudy color=#231f20 size=2> <P align=left><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/pdfs/EQII%20Revised%20Manual%20FINAL.PDF" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/pdfs/EQII%20Revised%20Manual%20FINAL.PDF</A></P> <P align=left></P></FONT></DIV>

asteldian
12-20-2004, 05:58 AM
<DIV>Axe should definately be available asshould lance type weapons, its crazy that they arent.  But dual wield? Nah, never expected to be able to do that and neer would expect ti, just not a pallys style really.</DIV>

Reav
12-20-2004, 07:52 AM
<DIV>Axe and spear should be allowed for sure. With dual wield, <STRIKE>I know they're differant games but one of the most famous Paladins of all RP games is good old Drizzt who had dual weapons. </STRIKE></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a half-elf I can see my Paladin holding two schimitars over lugging a 2H sword around.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*Edit- Ooops? :smileymad:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Reaves on <span class=date_text>12-20-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:59 PM</span>

hawnz
12-20-2004, 09:03 AM
<DIV>i hope you're joking about drizzt being a paladin.</DIV>

Kama
12-20-2004, 09:09 AM
<DIV>Drizzt was a Ranger, not a Paladin. should read the books before commenting on him.</DIV>

Reav
12-20-2004, 10:41 AM
<DIV>Never read the books, more of a Raymond Feist fan. Met Drizzt on Baldur's Gate 1 where I got the impression he was a Paladin. Had a funny feelin he was a Ranger so I did a quick search before placing that post... after reading through the posts the person who said he was got blasted too :smileywink:. Oh well, I still like dual weapons....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.strolen.com/npc/viewnpc.php?npc_id=114&offset=40&order=updated&dir=Desc&index=1" target=_blank>http://www.strolen.com/npc/viewnpc.php?npc_id=114&offset=40&order=updated&dir=Desc&index=1</A>  <-- Proof of my folley, he wasn't even talking about the Drizzt from Forgotten Realms. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Reaves on <span class=date_text>12-20-2004</span> <span class=time_text>04:01 PM</span>

LordUlr
12-21-2004, 02:57 AM
<DIV>I agree.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I want a lance to charge down upon an enemy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ulric</DIV>

Gilasil
12-21-2004, 04:18 AM
A lance used while mounted would be the most paladin-like weapon they could possibly have. Even more so then a sword.

Ginnsu
12-26-2004, 05:42 AM
<DIV>Lances in EQ were very cool, not overpowering and useable by other classes (most of them anyway).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They should put them in the great spear category and let us have at it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Mattissi
12-26-2004, 03:47 PM
<DIV>Dont forget about the missing ranged slot which is a big disadvantage stat-wise .. aint fair!</DIV>

githnaur
01-01-2005, 05:56 PM
Have to say, I see no worthy rationale in restricting the use of bows from Paladins.Archery, amongst other things, is/was a classical knightly pursuit.Fine, put a cap on the maximum skill a Paladin can gain (as was done in EQ1), but come on, no bows?Yes, we can still pull in a mob at range with our spells, but still, come on guys, bow us up please.

Garlicyesterday
01-01-2005, 08:30 PM
<DIV>Seriously bows , yeah i would like to use one but i could live without it since we can pull with our DD spells</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But dammit Sony , let us use axes and spears , what hell is that !!!! We get to choose only from Swords and Hammer and being now lvl 40 paladin , the choices we have are SO so so so small in weapons , every paladin running around with same weapon , very nice !</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry hehe im really fed up of this and like some of you posted , it was written that we could use all weapons...</DIV>