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Fluxion13
11-25-2006, 11:01 PM
Well, I'm trying to decide on my final M2.  That big level 64 spell.  I've read threads about it before, but with EoF, does anyone have a new perspective on what might be a good choice?  Here on my personal thoughts on why I might chose what I might chose.Pest. Touch - This is the premier SK ability.  It's what makes us what we are.  Ever since my first little SK on EQ1, I remember loving HT.  My only prob is I'm ALWAYS saving it thinking I might need it, and I end up using it about once a freakin' day.  But mmm what a wallop to pack.  I HAVE seen the M1 for sale on this one.Sacrilage - Who doesn't want a better taunt/debuff? nuff' said.  I have also seen the M1 of this one for sale.Death Circle - I love AoE. Love it, love it, love it.  I love warlocks, AE grps, and anything with lots of mobs in it. =D I have NOT seen the M1 of this one for sale.  I do tend to AE a lot when soloing, some when grp'ing, not sure how useful this would be at the highest end though.Putrid Coil - Normally this wouldn't even be a consideration, though I use the spell every fight (so you'd think it would be) but with the new SK AA's, I am going to get the "Coil Lifetap" and I dunno, though I know having the M2 really has no bearing on the lifetap, I'm wondering if I won't use the spell even more (if that's possible).  I have NOT see the M1 for this spell.Reguardless, of whether I can get the M1's for the rest of these spellz (it'll be a long while I'm sure) I'll use the A3's, so that'll be fine.Thanks in advance for all your comments and suggestions!!<div></div>

Fluxion13
11-26-2006, 03:02 AM
Bumping cuz I gotta choose soon (so I can finish getting some A3's made) and would like some input... =)<div></div>

Ellestil
11-26-2006, 04:01 AM
<P>With the way mobs can resist taunts more often now, I'd recommend sticking with your M2 taunt. The way I look at it, it doesn't matter if I can HT for 20k, it's only once an hour and when your grouped and tanking, people don't care about that or your dps, they care about you holding aggro. I've been able to get M1's of the other spells listed without much difficulty, so I'm glad with the taunt choice I made.</P> <P>Ellestil</P>

Incur
11-26-2006, 06:24 AM
<DIV>Assuming you dont have any master ones already...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Go with the taunt, ultimately were a tank class =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, considering the debuff it comes in very very very handy, if you have it M1 already, go with the touch imho =)</DIV> <DIV>That said, i always tank, i get a break from tanking about once a month if im lucky so i try to concentrate on what benefits ME the most</DIV>

Fluxion13
11-26-2006, 10:22 PM
Welp, that's 2 for Sac... TY for those... any other opnions or views?  I'm trying to get a broad perspective.<div></div>

tanis147
11-26-2006, 11:09 PM
i  went  with  the  HT. i  play  on  a  pvp  server and  this  is  a  get   out  of  jail  free  card  for  me. i  also  mastered  the  tuant and  am  working on  it  in  the  AA lines  to  beef  it  up. but if  you  don't  play  on  a  pvp  server  i  would  take  the  tuant.

Trop
11-26-2006, 11:30 PM
<div></div>Pest. Touch - With no AA's, this is on a 15 minute cool down. Depending on your play style (PvP or PvE) this may not bother you.  For me, I would rather look at the other three options that I can use a little more often.Sacrilage - Looking at the M1 vs M2 options, you gain around 50 hate and 50 debuff.  Well, Is 50 more hate and debuff really worth it?  In my opinion no.  With the new EoF AA's you can increase the debuff by up to 50% (making your debuff at ~1500 if you have a M1/M2 taunt).  Now just looking at 50 hate, that is only 2.5 hate every second more than a M1 choice (50 hate / 20 seconds sacrilage reuse).Coil - Looking at the difference in damage between M1 and M2, there is quite and upgrade.  I use this spell every time it is up since I will always be doing damage to single targets primarily, even when blue AoEing.Death Circle - The damage difference between M1 and M2 is worth noticing.  One of your two AoE DoT spells. 30 second recast so you can use the spell a lot, even with single targets if you fancy.I personally chose coil.  I figured that I would always have to use single target damage, since some times you can't AoE in some areas.  It is one of my most used spells, so the upgrade would be noticed.  It is also nice in PvP as a ranged DoT to break scouts out of stealth.  In my opinion, it really comes down to only Coil vs. Death Circle.  If you are an AoE nut, go Death Circle.  If you want the even ground and the best all around option (in my opinion), go Coil.Even if you only tank, I believe the M1 version of sacrilage is adequate.  Remember that more damage = more hate, so really picking the damage choices gives you more hate as well.  A tank that only taunts and does zero damage probably does not keep aggro very well =)<div></div>