Change FD please

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<DIV>Hey all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Seems that Devs are listening so far like adding bow to be in line with EQlive crusaders, etc.. so thought maybe get their attention to improve our FD..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please change our current FD to perma-FD but make it SELF-CAST only. I don't give a crap about ability to FD others. SK is a selfish-nature of the crusader and should make FD self-cast only to save our sorry [Removed for Content] and laugh at others who would be killed. I never once used FD on others for more than a year now cuz I refuse to save their sorry arses but mine.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQlive Sk is what I grew up since EQ's launch and LOVE its death peace. I had to put up with gimped EQ2 SK FD for 2 years. When I played Bruiser to lvl 70 and fell in love with its own perma-FD and made me feel like truer SK by playing Bruiser. ;( When I play SK and I cringe everytime I used FD and realize how [Removed for Content] and horrible FD is compared to Bruiser FD..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>CHANGE darn SK FD to be like Bruiser's but maybe little longer recast time (less than 1 min please. 5 min is too long) as trade off. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I understand that SK used FD on others just to annoy them or screw up their tanking aggro etc for sheer of enjoyment of doing evil but I don't want to  suffer for that little trick by having gimped FD to serve myself.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks..</DIV><p>Message Edited by Nocifer Deathblade on <span class=date_text>11-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:40 AM</span>

[Vexorkane]

<DIV>FD camping pisses me off, so I don't agree.  Plus, dead dps is useless.</DIV>

[Meryddian]

<DIV>No changes to targetable FD... that's a unique ability of ours as a tank and a very, very useful one. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, perhaps next time that there's a level raise, it might be nice for us to get an *additional* FD spell which is self-only, no timer cap. (Kind of like monks get single self-target FD, and group FD).</DIV>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Meryddian wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, perhaps next time that there's a level raise, it might be nice for us to get an *additional* FD spell which is self-only, no timer cap. (Kind of like monks get single self-target FD, and group FD).</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That would be good solution to satisfy both kind of SKs.. I'm more of old-fashioned Sk who is more selfish. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[mr23sgte]

<P>I would like Evac - after all ninja's could do it .....................</P> <P>Hereo</P> <P> </P> <P>70 Monk - Unrest</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Notorious_G]

<DIV>Other then the FD duration, I like the way it is now.  It would have been nice if our new EoF AA's would have increased FD duration along w/ recast.  Even something as small as extending the duration by 3-5 seconds per rank would have been welcome by me.  I can't recall how many times I have FD'ed on a raid only to get back up 5-10 seconds before the mob reset.</DIV>

[G3IST]

The biggest problem I have with our current FD is the difference between the duration of the spell and recast is way to large,  it really does not benefit the SK as much as it does the members of the raid or group.  I cant count how many times Ive died on a raid wipe because I use my FD like 5 secs too early cause a few idiots that run around thinking theyre not gonna get killed or the 95% chance for it to work on the master doesnt work and i get killed.  At least of brawlers if it does work they can get up run around for a few secs and recast it since their recast is less than 10secs i believe.  I understand that it probably would be a little overpowered if it worked the same as brawlers and we could still cast on raid or group, and I agree with one of the above posts where it would probably have to be two different FD's one for self and one for group/raid to make everyone happy because after all our FD is like having a 5min recast rescue if youre tanking.

[Anca0202]

I fringgin love our FD.  It is highly selfish to be able to FD others.  In combat it is the same as saying, you suck and can't maintain your dps/hate so bonk you are gonna take a time out for a little bit to think about what you have done.  In non-combat I find it great to FD that idiot who is running around about to agro a mob.  Also those annoynig people that non-stop hop around and run in circles often hit the ground when I get tired of it.  But BY FAR my favorite thing to do is FD someone who is running for that little shiney question mark so that I can get it.  Nothing pisses someone off more than that, it is great.  Usually I am not too  mean and just laugh at them a little then then let them get the shiney, that way they are not too upset.  It does provide great comic releaf though.

[Tsarunai]

My fav thing to do is FD someone's pet when they pullin. Think the shiny thing makes people mad?<div></div>

[JoarAddam]

<div></div>I like to FD people and then say " You're an [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] hat because you made me do that"it is one of our hate mechanics tho....  it's kinda like we have 3 rescues, all on different timers.  1 for overaggroers on a 5 min timer, 1 for adds on a 3 min timer and 1 for hate positions (i.e. REALLY dropping the ball) on a 15 min timer.  oh, and harmtouch...<div></div><p>Message Edited by JoarAddam on <span class=date_text>11-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:47 AM</span>

[Rylight]

honestly I could care less about being FD'ed for more then 30 (20?) secs. now if these was EQ1 where mobs would chase you acroos the entire zone then it would be useful but FD is just fine the way it is. it does not last as long as brawlers, yet we get the extra benifit of casting it on other group members, and nobody else can do that (well except a bruiser in the high 50's) but still, I have no need to FD for like 5 minutes. I wear plate armor anyways, I can take a few hits. <b>however</b> if they made it so we can FD permanently or FD repeatedly  (without the 4 min recast)  I wouldnt complian. however if they gave us something like that they would probably take something away from us (like being able to cast it on other group members) and that ablity has saved me alot, and others. so I rather just keep it as it is. just another useful tool that sk's get and many other classes dont. <div></div>

[Anselan]

Duration should definately be increased to at least 2 minutes, or another self only indefinate FD with 3 min recast. 20 seconds is pointless on raids as chances are someone is going to run and the mob will chase, resulting in us standing back up while it's on it's way back.<div></div>

[G3IST]

well i do get a lot of use out of my FD during raids when im teabaggin some body's corpse and some healer walks up to rez em and i FD the healer while theyre casting the rez.

[SillyMonk]

<P>Personally? I love my FD. It's one of the fastest way to grab hate off that overzealous caster or scout in your group.</P> <P>... also, it allows me to get some shineys when grouped with our Necro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[t0iletduck]

I like the current FD except for the short duration. I find i stand up just before the mob resets. I think if it had at least a minute duration, i'd be a very happy camper. <div></div>

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

<div><blockquote><hr>G3IST wrote:well i do get a lot of use out of my FD during raids when im teabaggin some body's corpse and some healer walks up to rez em and i FD the healer while theyre casting the rez.<hr></blockquote>That is another use of FD I hadn't thought of yet.You, sir, are my hero!</div>

[Margen]

<P>I would say the only thing to change would make it last say 1 min vs 20 seconds.  This would give it a ability to avoid wipes in raids for example.</P> <P>Maybe make it so the higher the level of spell (adept III for example vs Adept 1) the longer it last.  To be honest its the only spell I never upgraded past adept 1, if I rember correctly (please correct me if wrong) the differnce between adept1 and master 1 is like 3pct ... why bother IMHO.</P>

[Diern]

<DIV>I was an Eq1 SK player for about 5 years....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As much as I miss permanent FD, I dont think its nessesary for us in this game. I would much rather retain its current functionality due to reasons already posted...</DIV>

[wayward]

<DIV>well i think its stupid to give us fd then make it last only 20 secs.    ok when we raid  i never use fd on anyone cause we either wipe or dont. and if i do use it it only lasts 20 secs so when i fd and tthe mobs end up killing everyone....guess what DEVS....they come back and kill me last .  make the fd last alot longer.  just make it  5 mins or something  or longer but 20 secs is....oh and while im at it make the HT like every 5 mins recast.  what good is every 15 mins but as for the fd change it to recast to 1 min and longer fd effect than a silly 20 secs thats really just a death wish.  thanx </DIV>

[SinIsLaw]

well something for the "lazy Sk" maybe ... with Gu29, the brigand spell "beg for mercy" (deaggros a player) was changed, so that it can not be casted on a Fighter anymore (other then urself !!!!) - Adding that to ur FD would be nice, so U can cast it through a Mob, and there is no risk that it ends up on the MT as he regained aggro the same milli sec u tried to FD the Warlock ... <div></div>

[Margen]

LOL have to admit that has happened to me a few times.  Fact is one time I did it to my self, assasian had agro and I was taunting my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] off couldn't get it back so cast FD and of course right at that moment his deagro came up.  Fortunatly I hit x right away and got aggro back, but got a load of teasing from the guild for that one hehe.

[Eluzay]

<div><blockquote><hr>mr23sgte wrote:<div></div> <p>I would like Evac - after all ninja's could do it .....................</p> <p>Hereo</p> <p>70 Monk - Unrest</p> <hr></blockquote>sounds like a fair trade to me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Tarkin-Wretch]

i wasnt going to respond to this topic but just in case the devs are watching this, i would like to say i like FD the way it is.  unless they plan on making it last until canceled with a short recast like bruiser, dont even bother breaking it please.