Crusaders can use bows

[G3IST]

well just logged on to test server and crusaders can use bow, and have the ranged skill now.  It looks like they havent changed who can equip the bows already in game now, I made a pally a little while ago to see something and they start with a bow on isle, and probably the same for SKs.

[Archill]

Yes, Sk's start with a bow on the beta server. However I see bows to the crusader like one hand piercers. We'll be constantly overstepped and forgotten on the good gear, and as an afterthought on everything else. :/<div></div>

[Xanoth]

kinda freaky... still i get to wind the guild ranger

[Boke]

<DIV>good thing?</DIV>

[CHIMPNOODLE.]

<DIV>Didn't miss em before...indifferent I guess.</DIV>

[Wildmage]

bah still rather have a symbol sitting in my ranged slot<div></div>

[pawnipt]

<div></div>Hmm i can imagine us doing some hardcore ranged DPS with a bow, casting spells inbetween heavy bow attacks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><p>Message Edited by pawnipt on <span class=date_text>11-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:25 PM</span>

[G3IST]

they will be nice for those ranged/jousted fights when we're waiting for spells to recharge

[Zoradan]

<P>The way I understand it its one or the other, Bow no range spells. Symbole Range spell... duh no bow.</P> <P> </P> <P>Intresting option. </P>

[pawnipt]

Bards can cast ranged spells inbetween bow attacks, rangers and assasins can cast ranged CA's inbetween bow attacks.Theres no reason we can't (wear a symbol in the secondary slot and) cast all our spells inclueding Legonaire's Smite inbetween bow attacks!<div></div>

[t0iletduck]

The way i see it is it just gives us more versatility. For the most part I will be using a symbol in my range slot for int but sometimes a bow can come in handy for long distance pulls on the run. Also handy for some extra ranged dmg from bow autoattack while our ranged combat arts are on cooldown. <div></div>

[Kryptonix]

PvP players should lover this change. Everyone knows we are a force to be feared in PvP. But usually running away from us will save them. With the bow I dont think many people will touch us.<div></div>

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

I would much rather be able to use 1 handed piercers like rapiers and daggers, you know the nice INT weapons, than a bow. I can't see very many cases when I'd want to pull with a bow instead of Wrath.<div></div>

[Diern]

As a PVP player, this is a nice change for us. But I dont know seems wierd for sony to do this. A symbol will probably remain a better choice regardless as I bet our archery skill will be capped low (like eq1)<div></div>

[fallingsn]

<DIV>Okay... This is confusing the heck out of me.  Why is everyone posting about using one OR the other.  As a SK wiht 50 AAs and about 4 complete sets of equipment I use all possible configurations at one time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1) I can swtich between Shield / Sword (Axe) and Symbol / Sword (Axe) to cast Legion-Smite and back in a fraction of a second.  I don't know if this is a bug but I can literally hit the symbol hotbutton then hit legion-smite and hit shield and the Legion-smite will start and complete with me with a shield in my hand and only have had a symbol in my hand for a fraction of a second to activate the capability for my L-smite.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) You can create macros to make this even faster.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3) A bow is the same you can swtich back and forth during even the heaviest group pvp battles without much trouble with practice.  and with Macros you can make this even faster.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4)  I routinely switch from 2 handed Axe to 1 handed Axe and sword and then shield then symbol and back and then hammer to use all my AAs without a hickup.  Legion Smite, Swift AXE, and Hammer ground.  I get all 3 AAs in there without skipping a beat and that is also parsed in ACT as well.  Adding a Bow to this swapping component is not that hard.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[pawnipt]

I haven't tested but for good initial agro on pulls i believe its possible to start out with a Wrath nuke then immediately follow up with a ranged auto attack before the mob gets to close.If you have a slow heavy hitting bow it could hit up to around 2,500 damage (thats two big nukes in a row back to back).<div></div>

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

<div><blockquote><hr>pawnipt wrote:I haven't tested but for good initial agro on pulls i believe its possible to start out with a Wrath nuke then immediately follow up with a ranged auto attack before the mob gets to close.If you have a slow heavy hitting bow it could hit up to around 2,500 damage (thats two big nukes in a row back to back).<div></div><hr></blockquote>Hmm. This is true. How many orcs and I going to have to kill to raise my ranged from 5-350?</div>

[Antryg Mistrose]

With bows comes arrows<span>:smileysad:</span> - still we won't use nearly as many as rangers, so thats not such a big deal.<span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>I do like the idea of ranged autoatttack, and there are some bows with very nice stats about.It also gives us an extra 5m range if I remember correctly - Aren't longbows good to 35m and none of our abilities more than 30m?<div></div>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

Finally.. This is sorely needed change for crusaders.. EQlive knights can shoot just fine and I'm glad that it is being applied to EQ2 knights now..  It's a welcome ranged dps boost to crusaders against raid mobs that required ranged attacks like one in Lab run that only can be defeated via ranged attack only due to its MAD DS..

[Ajil]

<DIV>hurray for being able to shoot someone in the butt as they run from me in PVP!</DIV>

[JoarAddam]

makes me glad I'm a woodworker<div></div>

[Tasmai]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nocifer Deathblade wrote:<BR> like one in Lab run that only can be defeated via ranged attack only due to its MAD DS..<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>heh, havent figured that one out have ya? :p </P> <P>one word...</P> <P> </P> <P>Pillar.</P>

[Terron]

<blockquote><hr>fallingsnow wrote: <div>1) I can swtich between Shield / Sword (Axe) and Symbol / Sword (Axe) to cast Legion-Smite and back in a fraction of a second.  I don't know if this is a bug but I can literally hit the symbol hotbutton then hit legion-smite and hit shield and the Legion-smite will start and complete with me with a shield in my hand and only have had a symbol in my hand for a fraction of a second to activate the capability for my L-smite.</div> <div> </div> <div>2) You can create macros to make this even faster.</div><hr></blockquote>You can? Great! How do you equip an item from within a macro then? I haven't been able to find a way.<div></div>

[Margen]

Simply drag it from you inventory slot (don't have it equiped when you do this btw, or the macro changes to what ever is equiped), and place it on a hot bar.  You now have a weapon macro.  I do this for my 2hdrs, different 1h and shield already.