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Trivon
07-18-2006, 03:18 PM
<DIV>For those who dont know Staff of the Flapping Wing is a "108.5 DPS" Legendary 2Her that drops from Ascent.</DIV> <DIV>It has more DPS then the Qeynos Claymore, and all other fighters can use except crusaders. A Staff falls under crushing damage</DIV> <DIV>which we as SKs use so logic would dictate we could use this staff. The Staff may be bugged (having the most DPS from an Ascent Legendary sounds like it),</DIV> <DIV>but it has not been fixed yet. Can anyone explain why we cannot use this, yet a Guardian can?</DIV>

Ultimatum
07-18-2006, 06:20 PM
Because the only crushing weapons Crusaders can use are Hammers.  Staffs and Wands are not SK equipable, with the exception of the Wand/Staff of Second Life from the Peacock rewards.  Just not Crusader flavor, just like Furies and Wardens can use Scimitars but not 2h great swords or Axes.<div></div>

totallynumb
07-18-2006, 08:53 PM
I use an imbued ebony wand. IIRC most wands and staves are useable by SKs. No comment on Fury or Warden use of swords.<div></div>

Trivon
07-18-2006, 08:59 PM
<P>lol I use an Ancient Velium Rod <Staff> as my primary crushing weapon.</P> <P>So anyone else got ideas why crusaders get the shaft on this weapon?</P>

Ultimatum
07-18-2006, 09:42 PM
Lol since when can SKs use staffs and wands?  I thought they were reserved for Warriors and Brawlers?  Hmm I guess I stand corrected.  Must have happened the same time SKs could magically start to equip Tower Shields (which is an unwelcome addition imo)  I want Kites back dammit!<div></div>

Trivon
07-19-2006, 01:55 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Razerblaze wrote:<BR>Lol since when can SKs use staffs and wands?  I thought they were reserved for Warriors and Brawlers?  Hmm I guess I stand corrected.  Must have happened the same time SKs could magically start to equip Tower Shields (which is an unwelcome addition imo)  I want Kites back dammit!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ehh you want inferior shields, and less weapons huh.</P> <P>Why can a warrior use a staff when we as half casters cannot eh riddle me that.</P>

SonnyA
07-19-2006, 12:39 PM
The first time I noticed that we could use staves was when I found a Staff of Enlightenment (<A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=124527" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/item.vm?itemId=124527</A>)

Xanoth
07-19-2006, 01:01 PM
my guess is SOE's left hand made some staffs, while the right hand made the rest.we all know how much SOE's left hand knows about waht the right hand is doing <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Ultimatum
07-19-2006, 05:39 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Trivonus wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Razerblaze wrote:Lol since when can SKs use staffs and wands?  I thought they were reserved for Warriors and Brawlers?  Hmm I guess I stand corrected.  Must have happened the same time SKs could magically start to equip Tower Shields (which is an unwelcome addition imo)  I want Kites back dammit! <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>ehh you want inferior shields, and less weapons huh.</p> <p>Why can a warrior use a staff when we as half casters cannot eh riddle me that.</p><hr></blockquote>Yeah you're right...Hell while they're at it, might as well allow Mages to wear plate and scouts to use huge 2h swords and axes. <span>:smileyindifferent:  Actually what I want is VARIETY in what I see when I play the game.  Back in T5 when you saw someone wearing a Kite you knew they were a crusader, and when you saw someone wearing a Tower shield you could tell they were a warrior.  For the most part, classes looked slightly different.  Then T6 came along and almost every Warrior was wearing the Aegis of True Defense or the Crimson Rock Targe (Both Kite shields) which blurred the lines distinguishing each subclass.  Now in T7 Kites are almost completely out, and EVERYONE can wear Towers...theres a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] CLERIC Tower Shield for [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]'s sake.  So much for variety between classes...I wouldn't be surprised if when the next EXP comes out they add fabled plate armor that loks like chain so even more people can look exactly the same.As for the staffs, I believe 100% that the usability of staffs should be changed from Warriors to Crusaders...You don't know just how much I wish I could use Grizzlefazzle's Walking Stick <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Here's another one for you...Why can we as half casters not choose the +spell/heal crit Mark of the Awakened Intellect?</span></div>

vwlsskng
07-19-2006, 06:28 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Razerblaze wrote:<BR>Lol since when can SKs use staffs and wands?  I thought they were reserved for Warriors and Brawlers?  Hmm I guess I stand corrected.  Must have happened the same time SKs could magically start to equip Tower Shields (which is an unwelcome addition imo)  I want Kites back dammit!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Heh, I wanted tower shields for the longest time, that is, until I was able to equip one. Now I've grown to loathe the graphic as all I can see is a huge chunk of metal with boots running across my screen. Be careful what you wish for. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Trivon
07-19-2006, 09:12 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Razerblaze wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trivonus wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Razerblaze wrote:<BR>Lol since when can SKs use staffs and wands?  I thought they were reserved for Warriors and Brawlers?  Hmm I guess I stand corrected.  Must have happened the same time SKs could magically start to equip Tower Shields (which is an unwelcome addition imo)  I want Kites back dammit!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ehh you want inferior shields, and less weapons huh.</P> <P>Why can a warrior use a staff when we as half casters cannot eh riddle me that.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah you're right...Hell while they're at it, might as well allow Mages to wear plate and scouts to use huge 2h swords and axes. <SPAN>:smileyindifferent:  Actually what I want is VARIETY in what I see when I play the game.  Back in T5 when you saw someone wearing a Kite you knew they were a crusader, and when you saw someone wearing a Tower shield you could tell they were a warrior.  For the most part, classes looked slightly different.  Then T6 came along and almost every Warrior was wearing the Aegis of True Defense or the Crimson Rock Targe (Both Kite shields) which blurred the lines distinguishing each subclass.  Now in T7 Kites are almost completely out, and EVERYONE can wear Towers...theres a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] CLERIC Tower Shield for [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]'s sake.  So much for variety between classes...I wouldn't be surprised if when the next EXP comes out they add fabled plate armor that loks like chain so even more people can look exactly the same.<BR><BR>As for the staffs, I believe 100% that the usability of staffs should be changed from Warriors to Crusaders...You don't know just how much I wish I could use Grizzlefazzle's Walking Stick <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Here's another one for you...Why can we as half casters not choose the +spell/heal crit Mark of the Awakened Intellect?<BR></SPAN></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>This is not about variety or anything like that. It is about other fighter classes being able to buy the highest DPS 2Her off the broker for 5 pp while we</P> <P>as crusaders cannot plain and simple. </P>

Ultimatum
07-20-2006, 12:20 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Trivonus wrote:<div></div> <p>This is not about variety or anything like that. It is about other fighter classes being able to buy the highest DPS 2Her off the broker for 5 pp while we</p> <p>as crusaders cannot plain and simple. </p><hr></blockquote>Actually it is most definately about variety.  Instead of every fighter being able to use the same weapon, Crusaders are left out, in the same way Brawlers ore left out from using Axes, but I dont hear them complaining.  Win some Lose some...I could care less if we could use that or not anyway because even if we could, I'd prefer Rak'Leko's proc to that thing.  I also wouldnt be surprised if SOE nerfed that staff seeing as how it is a drop off trash mobs in an easy zone, is legendary, and doesnt deserve to have a higher damage rating than:<img src="http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8857/clawclub4vh.jpg"></div>

deadsidedemon
07-20-2006, 07:01 PM
<P>I've been trying to learn how to weild a sword for ages now, but alas, my fumbling hands cannot seem to manage it.  :smileysad:</P> <P> </P> <P>You know, if 10% of the rediculous number of 2H swords and axes that drop were actually 2H hammers or staffs, nobody would care about the SoFW anyway.</P> <P> </P>