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Desrow
07-08-2006, 01:28 AM
New player here. I was looking into being an Iksar Shadowknight. But I read that Iksar's can't wear certain armor, or a certain piece of armor because of their tail? Is this true and will this affect my stats dramatically in any way or anything?Thanks in advance.<div></div>
as far as i know race has no bearing on what armor you can wear, it all depends on your class. and stats mean nothing to start bc by the time your level 25 or so you will have gear to compensate for it.
interstellarmatter
07-08-2006, 01:59 AM
<P>You are thinking of EQ1. Iksars were limited to their armor. They took out alot of the race stuff in EQ2. I'd pick whichever you liked the best. Overall, it won't make a big difference.</P> <P>Blackfire</P> <P> </P>
Desrow
07-08-2006, 02:00 AM
Haha, wow. I must have clicked the wrong link in google then. Thanks a lot you two. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>
Gustuv Wynd
07-08-2006, 02:03 AM
<P>I don't understand why people keep saying race doesn't matter. At level 70 you'd pay an arm and a leg for a piece of gear just to get ten more of your main attribute. If you pick the right race starting out you get those ten points free.</P> <P> </P> <P>LOL I still only play humans though just for looks</P> <P>Edit: And I also think starting out with all your stats ballanced will pay off too, but yeah...its mainly for the looks of them.</P><p>Message Edited by Gustuv Wynd on <span class=date_text>07-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:18 PM</span>
Desrow
07-08-2006, 02:14 AM
Ok another little question too...It might have been the same site I read about the races/armor thing, but some races level faster/slower than others? Is that an EQ1 thing too?<div></div>
zixtent
07-08-2006, 04:00 AM
I don't know if that is an eq1 thing or not but all the races level the same here. Leveling really depends on your class, some classes level faster cause they can kill faster is all.<div></div>
Desrow
07-08-2006, 04:05 AM
Ah ok, but yeah what I meant was like is (just an example)Humans gain more exp than than Ogres.Thanks for all the info.<div></div>
zixtent
07-08-2006, 04:35 AM
No race has nothing to do with the xp that you gain.<div></div>
Beldin_
07-08-2006, 04:53 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gustuv Wynd wrote:<BR> <P>I don't understand why people keep saying race doesn't matter. At level 70 you'd pay an arm and a leg for a piece of gear just to get ten more of your main attribute. If you pick the right race starting out you get those ten points free.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Since SK needs really ALL Attributes .. where is the difference ? You don't give your arm for an item that has maybe 10 str more but 10 int less .. what you want is to have better stats in total .. or is better for a special situation .. more defence, resists, life when tanking .. more int / str when soloing or do dps <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Mistmoore-Milaga
07-09-2006, 04:34 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Gustuv Wynd wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>I don't understand why people keep saying race doesn't matter. At level 70 you'd pay an arm and a leg for a piece of gear just to get ten more of your main attribute. If you pick the right race starting out you get those ten points free.<span class="time_text"></span></p><hr></blockquote>When you reach the endgame, your racial stats have no bearing. Abilities are capped 7 x level + starting. If you start with 10 STR your cap is 500. If you start with 30 STR your cap is 520. But formulae that use these stats don't look at the current number, they look at how far it is currently below the cap. Lets say you have 10STR as a racial stat and gear/buffs to give you another 400 points, for a total of 410 STR. Another character with a starting STR of 30 has 420 STR from 390 points of gear and buffs. Beleive it or not, you would do more damage and have more power because you are 90 points below the cap while the other character is 100. This starting number is meaningless.What is not meaningless are the racial traits. Those stats do not effect the cap, so they do truly help you. Although when you are level 70, a 5 point racial stat bonus or defense bonus is very minor. They help out a lot at lower levels, however. The most underestimated racial trait is the proc. I think every race may get them. I love mine, great with capped INT.</div>
Gustuv Wynd
07-11-2006, 06:20 AM
<P>Ahhh...I see I din't know there was a cap to your attributes. I thought that was what the level cap was for. However, I don't quite understand your post. I would do more damage and have more power with 410 STR than I would with a character with 420 STR? Sounds to me that it is the oposite...for a fighter class i should start with as little strength as possible so I can stay under the cap longer. </P> <P>Does this even out as soon as I hit the cap? So that math wise 520 STR would be better than 500? Wow, I can't understand this at all. is this how it was intended to work or a bug?</P> <P>And I wasn't just refering to shadow knights, but all races and classes. They have all these races to chose from with different attributes that on the surface look like they would each excel in a certan class. Why bother if they will all be the same. Just have them the same stat wise and use them for looks.</P> <P>Oh well, I always pick Human anyways...just for the looks of them.</P>
Xanoth
07-11-2006, 10:56 AM
thinbk Milaga might have confused things by saying it doesnt make any difference then explaining how it does make a difference.ok im a high elf SK ( not a great choice, but all my characters are high elves <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ), but as a high elf my base str is 10, so my str caps at 500. what ever damage bonus 500 offers thats the max i can get, same for the bonus power and such for being a fighter... compared with an ogre fighter, who's str would cap at 520, as their base str is 30.one thing i've never personally researched into was static bonuses. every few levels you get a choice to increase a stat by 4. also back when you started out as a fighter, then picked crusader at level 10 then sk at 20... you got +5 +3 +2 to three of your most important attributes. im not sure if these values increase the cap, or if some of them still exist.you can find out your "base" for a given stat by inspecting yourself and hovering your mouse over the stat/value.
Mistmoore-Milaga
07-11-2006, 06:44 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Xanoth wrote:thinbk Milaga might have confused things by saying it doesnt make any difference then explaining how it does make a difference.<hr></blockquote>You are right, I did.The important thing to remember is that if your STR cap is 500 and you have 500 STR, you will do the same damage as someone with 520 STR with a 520 cap. SOE added this because they didn't want everyone saying "If you pick a Eurodite Shadowknight you are gimping yourself." Since Eurodites can never have as high a strength as an ogre.But the overall message is choose whatever race you will enjoy the most and forget the numbers. Most of the differences are meaningless and the ones that aren't are so minor that you won't care by level 70.</div>
DMIstar
07-12-2006, 02:39 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desrow wrote:<BR>New player here. I was looking into being an Iksar Shadowknight. But I read that Iksar's can't wear certain armor, or a certain piece of armor because of their tail? Is this true and will this affect my stats dramatically in any way or anything?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR><FONT color=#cc0000>Its Rather old Information, Back in the day in Everquest there was Armor restrictions as a whole to the iksar Class. They could not wear plate at all.. Though This was changed by veliouse erra. You may find some kunark erra that still abides by this rule if they have not totaly got rid of it. Everquest 2 never restricted any class.</FONT></P> <P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Desrow wrote:<BR>New player here. I was looking into being an Iksar Shadowknight. But I read that Iksar's can't wear certain armor, or a certain piece of armor because of their tail? Is this true and will this affect my stats dramatically in any way or anything?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cc0000>Another old piece of information: Races themselves Did not have a direct experience point gain between them with the same class.. But back in the day, Classes themselves had different Experience Points gain.. IE. Warriors would level faster the shadowknights... This was when they also denoted difficulties to the class.. Though this was ridden of a bit after vel came out and is realy nothing to think on.. Though if you want to be picky .. select classes do have a different experience gain then the others as a whole, Mianly Warriors/Monks but only to balance the amount of deaths from those classes to the other. So in the end it balances out. </FONT><BR></P>
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