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VainShad
07-07-2006, 01:33 AM
48 SK here.I'm sure I'm misunderstanding how things work in this game, but it seems to me that 2H weapons aren't worth it at all.  I give up the use of a shield, which gave me access to Shield Bash and extra avoidance.  In return I get a small 10% or so dps upgrade on my weapon choice (and this is on my autoattacks only?).In a 1v1 battle, it might possibly be marginally better (although I doubt it), but if I am being attacked by 2 or more mobs, surely having the extra avoidance of a shield helps a lot?  And since the most effective way for me to fight is to grab 3-5 mobs and AE them to death, a shield just seems so much better.What am I missing?<div></div>

Kharz
07-07-2006, 02:01 AM
<P>             Your missing the rare chance that your off tanking. Or in a raid just going for DPS. On those odd occasions I use a 2 hander, it's just very rare. Sometimes I even forget my 2 hander in the bank. :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>               A few Sks in our guild do use 2 handers when soloing, but I have yet to find an amazing one. So I stick with my 1 hander and shield in most situations. There are some great 2 handed weapons out there, cruise the forums and you'll find em in the different tank areas. Hope that helps!</P>

EnraptureE
07-07-2006, 02:21 AM
<P>I use both 2H & 1H about equal amounts.  I tank of course with 1H & will use it on ranged fights in raids (symbol equipped to use lego smite).  I use 2H, cause you do hit harder & with melee crits, I'd say its over 10% in dps, more like 25%.  Using 1H, just gives me the shield stun, so no actual dps increase, so its definately not 10%</P> <P>It used to be different before one of the updates, when the Agony used to be 2H only to use.  Gives us more flexibility now, as thats a good attack.  Also, 2H are usually slower & you seem to crit more with them.  I have spell crit, melee crit max'd at 8 points, so this is a definate notice.</P> <P> </P>

Pauleh
07-07-2006, 10:25 AM
<DIV>I've had to tank for my group mostly over theses past few days, always had a shield and 1h sword for that till last night we were doing a instance run and we lacked dps, went and brought a 2handed great sword hadnt used one since low levels, my str was pretty high i was doing amazing damage with it not to mention the amount of times i could pull a crit off.<BR><BR>Deff worth it</DIV>

Bruener
07-08-2006, 04:01 AM
<DIV>I use a 1h all the time, whether in dps mode or tank mode.  In dps mode use another symbol to up your stats and allow you to use smite, in tank mode obviously use a shield.</DIV>

Beldin_
07-08-2006, 05:11 AM
Don't forget the style .. if you have a cool looking 2h sword its just more fun to use it .. if you just have a boring 2h weapon .. take whatever you think is better <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Greatslo
07-08-2006, 09:47 AM
<DIV>lol for quite awhile I would parse around 400-700 in T7 raids while specced with int/str (8/8 lego smite). I would only use a 1h and symbol...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Recently I picked up some crappy slow 2her and respecced to int/stam (with max on the crit buff) and now I parse around 550-900 on T7 raids...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kinda reminds me of the old Arcanite Reaper days in WoW haha!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At any rate obviously the parse is hugely effected by the group makeup, but I've noticed a big increase DPS across the board... Keep in mind this is with 50 AAs.</DIV>

Zoradan
07-08-2006, 08:29 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bruener wrote:<BR> <DIV>I use a 1h all the time, whether in dps mode or tank mode.  In dps mode use another symbol to up your stats and allow you to use smite, in tank mode obviously use a shield.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Bingo.</P> <P>I still use a 2 hander, tho at times I run one-hander and symbol. Nice at times to have an other nuke. Once I get a good dam one handed axe (still don't have one!!!) I'll run this way most of the time.</P>

hansomepete
07-11-2006, 06:33 PM
Wow really?? i only use 2 handed waepons, but i'm a damage hog. They have way better damage then the one handed weapons. I stick to greatswords, the only thing that came close was the rallosin steel swords and something i saw last night an ice reaver. I hit things with the blade of the harvester for like 211 a smack and that is with a human shadowknight with 213 str. I had a fabled flail that would do 500 a smack if it hit you, had bad swing time something like 3.8 seconds. You got the mit you don't need to avoid as much. With just dropped stuff i have a 1988 mit that does 47% damage reduction.  

Nink
07-12-2006, 04:18 PM
<DIV>If I am MT then I use a one handed slashing sword, shield and symbol (in the ranged slot) and defensive buffs on, most of the time I am backup tank so go two handed and symbol with  offense buffs on.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only problem with this is that if the MT dies I dont have the mitigation when I get the aggro.</DIV>

Phank
07-12-2006, 07:00 PM
I didn't use Two-handers much til I hit 70.  Now I am almost exclusively using a 2H.  It helps to have the Qeynos Claymore (moreso than stats, the procs are both DEFENSIVE in nature -- kinda lame, but I guess it works if you wanna solo/tank using a 2H.)

Dracosy
07-12-2006, 08:14 PM
If you have the chance get the Zang Fi Braided Segmenter, +48 str. +35 Sta, +20 Int, +110 to health, +85 to power, +7 to slashing, Dmg is 62-187, delay 3.0.   Every time i use this thing i'm doing 800-1k dmg per round, compared to the 500-700dmg i was doing with Blade of Desolation(that included procs from the sword). i think its one of the ebst swords in game right now <div></div>

Marcula
07-13-2006, 09:08 PM
I have a level 50 SK and have never, not even once used a sword and board. I have exclusively used a 2H axe from day one till I got the EBBC which has very decent stats and looks (I am partial to the axe!). I solo exclusivly except for some heritage quests and names (like the dragon in Commonlands which I MT'ed during my early 30's). I use the 2H cause I have never had an issue with damage as i use the master level ward all the time during battle. And in my humble opinion an SK with a 2H weapon is just bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]!

Danimal24
07-14-2006, 12:20 AM
<DIV>It's all about Pride's Edge <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> summons two lions for 10 seconds..last run in DT they were doing quite well..the sword also has a 106 DR...the feral lions dps is not added to yours in the parse however (at least with the parser we use) but still, for a proc, they kick major butt</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And Frostwrath is an easy enough 1H axe to get that is fairly nice if you tank with the STR line, which I have no idea why you wouldn't pick the STR line if you intend to tank</DIV><p>Message Edited by Danimal24 on <span class=date_text>07-13-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:22 PM</span>

nodaisho
07-17-2006, 02:53 AM
I use a 2hander, mostly because I am less likely to be picked as the tank if I have a 2hander. Used to be that there was a 2handed only CA, but that got changed at some point. I just personally love the look of claymores.