Is there something wrong with being an SK?

[mikeyswizz]

<div>This is the response I got from a post on another board. Found it sort of commical.</div><div> </div><div><blockquote><hr>Naku9 wrote:<div></div><span><blockquote><p> </p><p>the point of saying it was to show how frustrated i've been about nonsense being said and how i've been pushed to do it.... <font color="#ff0000">you play an SK enough said</font></span></p></blockquote><div></div><p>Message Edited by Naku9 on <span class="date_text">03-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:08 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>I dont even really get it, I mean c'mon. The guy who said it plays a ranger...</div>

[ChrisRay]

No, theres nothing wrong with being an SK. The class you play has little bearing on your personality or general demeanor, and people who make comments like that really need to grow up.<div></div>

[blynchehaun]

That would be an Ad Hominem attack, typically the resort of someone who doesn't actually have anything to say....<div></div>

[SillyMonk]

<div></div>lol. That kinda reminds me of the "Oh..oh yeah? Well you're just a dummyhead!" line of defense. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Axlin]

Yeah there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Shadowknight. It's all a matter of personal preference and does not reflect your personality whatsoever. That's like saying that all people who play Necromancers are actually criminals and murderers who lack emotion, because, well, that's how the game description makes the class sound, right?It's absolutely stupid to put a label on somebody because of what class they play. Just ignore that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and enjoy playing your class of choice: Shadowknight. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Quaan]

<div></div><p>There is nothing wrong with being a SK unless you want to add value to a raid party. SKs offer very little in this situation (and other fighters tank/aggro manage far better), any more than one per raid consumes a spot that would be better off going to dps or healers etc.</p><p>This is just how I have found things after levelling my SK to 60. myself and several other SKs in my guild have rolled other chars (my former healer alt is now 70) so that we may contribute.</p><p>Unfortunately it has been like this for quite a while now............</p>

[Lord Montague]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Quaan wrote:<div></div><p>There is nothing wrong with being a SK unless you want to add value to a raid party. SKs offer very little in this situation (and other fighters tank/aggro manage far better), any more than one per raid consumes a spot that would be better off going to dps or healers etc.</p><p>This is just how I have found things after levelling my SK to 60. myself and several other SKs in my guild have rolled other chars (my former healer alt is now 70) so that we may contribute.</p><p>Unfortunately it has been like this for quite a while now............</p><hr></blockquote><p>Err...there's a few threads around here somewhere discussing the role of the Shadowknight in a raid (ah, here it is...<a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=18892" target="_blank">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=9&message.id=18892</a>) - and based on what I have seen I would have to disagree.  We do add value to a raid...but it also depends on how many fighters are already in the raid party.  That gets into party balancing, however.</p><p>Message Edited by Lord Montague on <span class="date_text">03-27-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:45 AM</span></p>

[Enigm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Quaan wrote:<div></div><p>There is nothing wrong with being a SK unless you want to add value to a raid party. SKs offer very little in this situation (and other fighters tank/aggro manage far better), any more than one per raid consumes a spot that would be better off going to dps or healers etc.</p><p>This is just how I have found things after levelling my SK to 60. myself and several other SKs in my guild have rolled other chars (my former healer alt is now 70) so that we may contribute.</p><p>Unfortunately it has been like this for quite a while now............</p><hr></blockquote><p>Sorry to hear about your guild being that way.  I really hate close minded people.</p><p>I get enough of thos in RL don't really need them in the game also.</p><p>So to your guild SK are totally useless then?  I don't think there is any 1 class in this game that I could say for any reason "No we need X over you for the raid"  "X= fill in the class for thos that don't get it"</p><p>Been on tons of raids with my SK, and I can say that 99% of the time I don't tank but I can pull some kick butt DPS when I want to and I bring good buffs and some good debuffs. I can also save a DPS's butt if he pulls agro from the MT.</p><p>My best advice to you is try not to buy into everything that someone may say to you as being the "Truth" and form your own ideas about what you can or can't do with your SK.</p><p>BTW the reason I am not the MT is not due to not being able to, I just don't <font color="#ffff33">like</font> to be the MT <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I can MT with the rest NP. Some may do it better some may do it worse. But I can do it just fine.</p>

[Duf]

He didn't say his guild made him reroll, just that he rerolled so he could contribute. Maybe it was a personal choice?

[Enigm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Duffy wrote:He didn't say his guild made him reroll, just that he rerolled so he could contribute. Maybe it was a personal choice?<hr></blockquote><p>Where you talking about someone in this thread? Maybe not I can't find a post it where we where talking about being made to reroll.</p><p>If you can bring something to the table by all means do so, other then that all Trolls are checked at the door :smileyindifferent:</p>

[Duf]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Enigmo2 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Duffy wrote:He didn't say his guild made him reroll, just that he rerolled so he could contribute. Maybe it was a personal choice?<hr></blockquote><p>Where you talking about someone in this thread? Maybe not I can't find a post it where we where talking about being made to reroll.</p><p>If you can bring something to the table by all means do so, other then that all Trolls are checked at the door :smileyindifferent:</p><hr></blockquote>Read the post you quoted again.  Show me where he said his guild made him reroll, and it wasn't a personal decision.</span></div>

[krazykaj]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Duffy wrote:<div><span><blockquote><hr>Enigmo2 wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Duffy wrote:He didn't say his guild made him reroll, just that he rerolled so he could contribute. Maybe it was a personal choice?<hr></blockquote><p>Where you talking about someone in this thread? Maybe not I can't find a post it where we where talking about being made to reroll.</p><p>If you can bring something to the table by all means do so, other then that all Trolls are checked at the door :smileyindifferent:</p><hr></blockquote>Read the post you quoted again.  Show me where he said his guild made him reroll, and it wasn't a personal decision.</span></div><hr></blockquote>Man, you both are lost....no where in his post did he even say anything about rerolling at all.  Just that some [Removed for Content] used him being an SK as an end all to an arguement.    By the way, I don't think there is anything wrong at all with being an SK, although we don't get a whole lotta love from people on the pvp servers now.  They all scream that our 15 min timered, able to be resisted, skill is wayyyyy overpowered, even if you compare it to thier every 10 sec nukes that hit for arseloads of dmg and do a comparison over the 15 minute period of ours.</span></div>

[blynchehaun]

Yup.My Wiz could cast Ice Comet 18 times in the same space of time as any version of 2 Harm Touches.Assuming no resists that's 48,924 to 90,846 damage. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I love my wiz *and* I love my SK. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[knightdant]

Does he mean that if you are a Shadowknight you are evil in real life lol? I have a Shadowknight and a Swashbuckler, and I'm not evil or like Errol Flynn unfortunately.

[Kelkirra]

<div>There is absolutly nothing wrong with being a SK. I have played one since I started this game. There is a lot of confusion and misinformation about the class though. The remarks such as this the one above is comming from someone who is either: 1) inmature or 2) uneducated in the classes of this game. I came from a pretty bad server myself in the discrimination of classes for groups/raids/guilds so I understand to well these comments. SK in my opinion is one of the most versitile classes in EQ2 by far. The capability to save a groups rear end in any given situation makes the class wonderful to have around.  Yes, SK may have a hard time holding agro compared to other tanking classes, welcome to the challenge of playing this class. No we cannot take a hit like some of the other tanking classes due to the nerfs that SoE has landed on us since the DoF update.</div><div> </div><div>Anyone using remarks such as the one from that thread isn't worth grouping with or even talking to imo. Leave the weak minded to fend for themselves or, in some cases, educate them in any manner you feel approporiate in the true power of the SK class.</div><div> </div><div>Naldir Veglarn SK for the New Outriders on Mistmoore</div><div> </div><div>P.S. if you're a SK reading these posts and feel the same as the lamer in the orgional thread thinking that the class is crap, reroll another toon you feel you'll enjoy and leave the rest of us Battlemages be. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Kryptonix]

<div>If there is one thing wrong with the SK class it will be our VERY mean fun spells. Useless 10% horse..... idiot sex changing squire..... But we do get an awesome glowing hand.</div>

[DUNN]

<div></div><div>The Sk class in itself has a stigma of persona non grata to many raiding guilds.  They don't see the need for them. Many beleive a paladin provides much more value to a raid for the same price.</div><p>Message Edited by DUNN on <span class="date_text">04-10-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:41 AM</span></p>

[Kryptonix]

<div></div>Some see this as a bad thing, to me personally this was a good thing. I have made a few friends in other raid guilds who dont have a shadowknight, so every blue moon they would send a tell saying "yo we looted this SK master was wondering if you need it". Not only do I get free stuff but I was free to find a guild who knew the real value an SK brings to a raid.

[Kelkirra]

<div>I have been turned down from guild based upon my class. "We don't need a SK. The class is useless. Get your assassin or fury up and we'll talk."</div><div> </div><div>I've heard that comment a few tmes when appling to some of the high end raiding guilds. Fact remains though, those same guilds aren't preforming the raids of other high end guilds that I have seen are that DO have every class in their guild. Each tanking class has a purpose in raids. There are a varity of diferent raid mobs that require different tanks to take the blows. We will take the Godking for instance. This guy hits HARD. Every guild that I have spoken with that has taken this guy out has used a bruiser instead of a guardian to tank this guy. Good reasoning too. High avoidance=less hits.</div><div> </div><div>The best raiding guild that I have ever seen by far has been the Rockeaters from the Oasis server. And guess what, they DO have a SK. They don't use him for MT for a lot of their raids for one reason: threat over time. They do understand the variety that he does bring to the raids though and the fact that the SK is better suited for certian raid mobs more-so than a guardian.</div><div> </div><div>Another point that does come to mind is the SK inability to take a hit in a fight and health pool lvl compared to the guardian. A friend of mine once made a comment that still rings true: "In a raid, it doesn't matter who you have tanking. The hits are irrevelant, the MIT of the person unbuffed is irrevelant. When a mob is swinging for over 3K per swing it's going to have a good chance to kill whoever you have in front of him."</div><div> </div><div>Naldir Veglarn</div><div>68 Seasoned SK for the New Outriders on Mistmoore</div>