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Thanous
10-01-2005, 12:00 AM
Ok, been doing this for the Warrior classes and Brawler classes, now it is Crusaders turn.  I'm working on a analysis so that we can all, on a standardized basis, see how we stack up to other classes, how buffs and stances help/hinder our defense, and better understand how mitigation and avoidance effect our class... If you look at the different subclass boards, you'll find threads by me with the same topic and some results listed there for that class under different conditions. What I'm asking from you all is can you please provide me with your Mit and Avoidance stats.  Either percentages or Mitigation number with your level.  I will do the analysis and post it here on your board.  When you tell me yoru stats, please let me know what buffs you are or are not using so that we can document that along with your results and they are not taken out of context.  Thanks <div></div>

PaqMan
10-01-2005, 02:44 AM
Hello, with the selfbuffs: - Cursed Caress, App4 - Unhallowed Aura, App4 - Contract of Shadows, Master II - Insatiable Hunger, Adept I and in my feyiron plate, at level 39 Halfling SK I got the following info: - Mitigation: 1151 - Avoidance: 29.3% Only stat I chose in training was str +4 once, other was +int.

Margen
10-01-2005, 03:06 AM
<P>at 47th level in defensive mode</P> <P>Mit -2055</P> <P>Avoidance -33.4pct</P> <P>equipment is a compenation of legendary (BP, boots, and 2 pieces of Jewlery)/treasure/handcrafted, molevelent circle is only adept I ... need to find a stinking ruby LOL</P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath</P> <P> </P>

Kinve
10-01-2005, 06:10 AM
<DIV>Lvl 43</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Stance: Lucan's Pact  +44 WIS, -piercing / crushing -9, +def: +8.6, +mit melee +143, +mit disease 570</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Contract of Shadows: +STR: +21, +STA +21</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fulginate armor, pristine imbued feystell chest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mit: *** oops</DIV> <DIV>Avoidance 34.8%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>STR 102</DIV> <DIV>AGI 93</DIV> <DIV>STA 94</DIV> <DIV>INT 58</DIV> <DIV>WIS 109</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Cold 1079</DIV> <DIV>Disease 1494</DIV> <DIV>Divine 1068</DIV> <DIV>Heat 928</DIV> <DIV>Magic 958</DIV> <DIV>Mental 1230</DIV> <DIV>Poison 937</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit:</DIV> <DIV> lvl 44</DIV> <DIV>just dinged  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>MIt: 1602</DIV> <DIV>avoid: 31.0%</DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Kinvenu on <span class=date_text>09-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:56 PM</span>

GrizzlyRO
10-01-2005, 06:32 AM
<P>Lvl 54SK, in Def stance.  2 colalt armer, 1 fabled, rest ebon</P> <P>mit-2593</P> <P>avoidance-39.1%</P> <P>disease resist-3120</P>

Thanous
10-01-2005, 08:42 PM
I will run all numbers on Monday, as I do not have the tool I built here with me.  I'll get to it ASAP.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

YummiOger
10-02-2005, 06:20 PM
<P>Yummy Iz'Bad 51 Ogre Shadowknight In Def stance (M. Circle Adt3), Unholy Master 1, Str/Stam/Agil rings, rest self buffs Adt3</P> <P>HP: 4476</P> <P>Pow: 2167</P> <P>Mit: 2711</P> <P>Aviod: 43.8</P> <P>Fable Sheild, Fable Boots, Ebon Legs/Chest, Rest Cobalt</P> <P>GL Guys good hunting</P><p>Message Edited by YummiOger on <span class=date_text>10-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:22 AM</span>

Thanous
10-03-2005, 09:41 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>PaqMan wrote:Hello, with the selfbuffs: - Cursed Caress, App4 - Unhallowed Aura, App4 - Contract of Shadows, Master II - Insatiable Hunger, Adept I and in my feyiron plate, at level 39 Halfling SK I got the following info: - Mitigation: 1151 - Avoidance: 29.3% Only stat I chose in training was str +4 once, other was +int.<hr></blockquote>Mean Taken    49.80274816        Percentile    Taken 0.05    0 5    0 10    0 15    0 20    0 25    0 30    45.11151409 35    55.44606033 40    59.53941392 45    62.35673448 50    64.7034824 55    66.78262398 60    68.78571195 65    70.75478436 70    72.61274019 75    74.48500818 80    76.54343079 85    78.90521445 90    81.71902705 95    85.89025785 99.5    96.66658204 Damage Taken... Mean Taken    70.48642959        Percentile    Taken 0.05    36.30995065 5    53.07261682 10    56.92219165 15    59.52289295 20    61.58517824 25    63.35445964 30    64.93774722 35    66.40531178 40    67.8075064 45    69.15687621 50    70.48532224 55    71.81317481 60    73.1578357 65    74.55673544 70    76.02905707 75    77.61608367 80    79.38491405 85    81.44237772 90    84.03364887 95    87.87469497 99.5    97.86030435 Do some of the SK buffs/taps improve stats at all? </span><div></div>

Thanous
10-03-2005, 09:43 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Margen wrote:<div></div> <p>at 47th level in defensive mode</p> <p>Mit -2055</p> <p>Avoidance -33.4pct</p> <p>equipment is a compenation of legendary (BP, boots, and 2 pieces of Jewlery)/treasure/handcrafted, molevelent circle is only adept I ... need to find a stinking ruby LOL</p> <p>V/R</p> <p>Blackoath</p> <hr></blockquote>Mean Taken    37.44559765        Percentile    Taken 0.05    0 5    0 10    0 15    0 20    0 25    0 30    0 35    39.40469911 40    45.3545347 45    48.33645429 50    50.51054545 55    52.40370649 60    54.17618963 65    55.84678424 70    57.37051827 75    58.96137678 80    60.64798708 85    62.60010786 90    64.8154169 95    68.17148765 99.5    76.47172549 Damage Taken Mean Taken    56.27847423        Percentile    Taken 0.05    28.82400354 5    42.37044651 10    45.44976226 15    47.51763727 20    49.16283583 25    50.58200474 30    51.84025986 35    53.02097915 40    54.13364433 45    55.21498075 50    56.2643033 55    57.33622512 60    58.40830538 65    59.52746374 70    60.69869543 75    61.96358204 80    63.37065261 85    65.01998555 90    67.08331703 95    70.13554144 99.5    77.83205485 </span><div></div>

Thanous
10-03-2005, 09:45 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Kinvenu wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div>Lvl 43</div> <div> </div> <div>Stance: Lucan's Pact  +44 WIS, -piercing / crushing -9, +def: +8.6, +mit melee +143, +mit disease 570</div> <div> </div> <div>Contract of Shadows: +STR: +21, +STA +21</div> <div> </div> <div>Fulginate armor, pristine imbued feystell chest.</div> <div> </div> <div>Mit: *** oops</div> <div>Avoidance 34.8%</div> <div> </div> <div>STR 102</div> <div>AGI 93</div> <div>STA 94</div> <div>INT 58</div> <div>WIS 109</div> <div> </div> <div>Cold 1079</div> <div>Disease 1494</div> <div>Divine 1068</div> <div>Heat 928</div> <div>Magic 958</div> <div>Mental 1230</div> <div>Poison 937</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Edit:</div> <div> lvl 44</div> <div>just dinged  </div> <div> </div> <div>MIt: 1602</div> <div>avoid: 31.0%</div> <p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by Kinvenu on <span class="date_text">09-30-2005</span> <span class="time_text">07:56 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Mean Taken    43.80845667        Percentile    Taken 0.05    0 5    0 10    0 15    0 20    0 25    0 30    0 35    48.3738269 40    52.95583417 45    55.73320527 50    57.94266441 55    59.85017041 60    61.59237943 65    63.3815662 70    65.17818808 75    66.92552409 80    68.74592281 85    70.85549315 90    73.35445261 95    77.117257 99.5    86.45885501 Damage Taken... Mean Taken    63.59390044        Percentile    Taken 0.05    33.69285319 5    47.89758808 10    51.36186322 15    53.70218873 20    55.55842109 25    57.14901272 30    58.58638649 35    59.90657836 40    61.16933549 45    62.38174477 50    63.58346912 55    64.78714464 60    66.00732204 65    67.26617489 70    68.58595125 75    70.01307229 80    71.61638166 85    73.47616402 90    75.78235102 95    79.2672494 99.5    88.20652446 </span><div></div>

Thanous
10-03-2005, 09:47 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>YummiOger wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>Yummy Iz'Bad 51 Ogre Shadowknight In Def stance (M. Circle Adt3), Unholy Master 1, Str/Stam/Agil rings, rest self buffs Adt3</p> <p>HP: 4476</p> <p>Pow: 2167</p> <p>Mit: 2711</p> <p>Aviod: 43.8</p> <p>Fable Sheild, Fable Boots, Ebon Legs/Chest, Rest Cobalt</p> <p>GL Guys good hunting</p><p>Message Edited by YummiOger on <span class="date_text">10-02-2005</span> <span class="time_text">07:22 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote> Mean Taken    26.36462754        Percentile    Taken 0.05    0 5    0 10    0 15    0 20    0 25    0 30    0 35    0 40    0 45    32.83166931 50    38.36242185 55    40.99569418 60    42.96345031 65    44.5933909 70    46.27022828 75    47.87271125 80    49.58240184 85    51.27330727 90    53.37715665 95    56.49944555 99.5    63.42737884 Damage Taken... Mean Taken    46.84492435        Percentile    Taken 0.05    25.08219499 5    35.28191028 10    37.80432215 15    39.55908588 20    40.92910995 25    42.09971574 30    43.15642909 35    44.13531417 40    45.05932178 45    45.95880763 50    46.84289959 55    47.72203744 60    48.62289216 65    49.54144927 70    50.52677666 75    51.58062788 80    52.75262861 85    54.12210557 90    55.84392345 95    58.39537724 99.5    64.97489972 </span><div></div>

Kinve
10-03-2005, 11:58 PM
HUH?

Thanous
10-04-2005, 12:14 AM
The first set of numbers is my simulation of what would happen in 5000 standardized attacks against you.  The second set of numbers is just for hits not avoided.  They are listed as percentiles and are of a semetric distribution, so you can look in the middle of the range of numbers for most likely behavior.  What you really care about is the average values in each set. <div></div>

Pirotase
10-04-2005, 03:57 PM
<P>Lv53 DE SK with 2 cobalt  all ebon </P> <P>Def stand adept III , ironwood kite shield , SM</P> <P>HP: 4196</P> <P>Pow: 2136</P> <P>Mit: 2502</P> <P>Aviod: 37.4%</P> <DIV>Atk 783</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Attack stand Master 1</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <P>HP: 4235</P> <P>Pow: 2061</P> <P>Mit: 2194</P> <P>Aviod: 16.3</P> <P>Atk 941 ... </P></DIV>