New Spell at Lvl 50

[Aloca]

<DIV><A href="http://www.eq2labs.com/article/new-spells.php" target=_blank>http://www.eq2labs.com/article/new-spells.php</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Alocart on <span class=date_text>08-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:50 PM</span>

[PhozFa]

interesting, i'm on beta and as of yesterday i never seen them spells. but thats also cause i was on before the patch. beta patches start like 1-4pm. I'm now excited <div></div>

[vwlsskng]

What, exactly, is Death March supposed to do? And look at the Paladin's new spells: a new HO starter, which probably makes for improved HOs, and something that saves them from a fatal blow. I'd rather have those. Looks like we got screwed again. And Guardians now get a limited pet, like ours? Gee, there they go mashing all to gray again. They need to give Guardians lifetaps and evac, too.<p>Message Edited by vwlssknght on <span class=date_text>08-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:46 AM</span>

[Zoradan]

<P>What a bunch of [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ing garbage?!</P> <P>Guard gets a Pet, Pallies get a funky tho intresting sudo FD 50% to drop threat by 25 POSITIONS! Heals them and don't strip buffs like our FD dose.</P> <P>Zerkers get an uber taunt, Pallies get an other for of agro contro via sucking 18% of hate off a mob. Gratz them.</P> <P> </P> <P>Us:</P> <P>Death March? Fist the dev who wrote that spell needs to put the pipe down and just say no to crack, [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] is that discrition and [Removed for Content] dose it do? Nother Crap tastic Life Tap on a 1 min timer. </P> <P>Where is my Dev [Removed for Content] on the SK sticker at?</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Damanex]

The paladin FD is OK -- but the problem with that is you would need 2 MTs in that group considering there's no way EVER that you would get aggro back after using that spell unless somehow they boost rescue to give +25 positions of hate =) The new SK spell seems interesting -- its a little hard to follow the loop since I don't know exactly what Essence of Death or Death March does (looks like Essence of Death casts Death March -- which is a DPS increaser??) ASSUMING this spell works (wouldn't be surprised if this spell was broken), wouldn't we be increasing the dps potential of our group through this + despoiling mist as well as getting alot of buff aggro? BTW anyone else notice this spell doesn't cost power? <div></div>

[Dogm]

<P>Some of you people whine way too much.</P> <P>Death March is/should be a nice DPS boost for the group (havent had a chance to test it out yet).</P> <P>And how can you not like an extra lifetap?<BR>And what about the power tap, it is insanely nice.   What? you dont see a power tap? You mean you aren't on beta you are just looking at pics and talking out your [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]? </P> <P>Now as for [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] envy of other classes.</P> <P>The paladin FD is ONLY if they get hit with something that would kill them , it will heal them a little and stifle them. What use is this really? Useless to use if he is MT cause agro will jump all over after. If he is playing DPS then he is going to be stifled so he cant use any attacks/heals. And he is still on the threat list so he cant FD during a wipe and stand up and rez the raid.</P> <P>And I doubt that pallies/guardians get another HO started that will make for better HOs as you say. Look at the flavor text of the spell that is what it should do. Wires coult have gotten crossed and the HO part just got added in as an accident.</P> <P>Berserker Taunt doesnt look that uber to me only lasts 30 seconds and the taunt values are low initial taunt for 530-650 is an average group taunt, then has a chance to proc another taunt for 188 (that is nothing).   Our cursed caress will build up agro better then this IMO.</P> <P>As for the Guardian pet have you seen it work? I sure havent. Says it summons a decoy to destract target for a short time. I dont see what use it will be as the description makes it sound like it will not fight .</P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Dogmae on <span class=date_text>08-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:01 PM</span>

[vwlsskng]

<P>Death March<BR><BR>"Dude. What's mine say?"<BR>"Sweet. What's mine say?"<BR>     "Dude. What's mine say?" x2<BR>     "Sweet. What's mine say?" x2<BR>          "Dude. What's mine say?" x3<BR>          "Sweet. What's mine say?" x3<BR>               "Dude. What's mine say?" x4<BR>               "Sweet. What's mine say?" x4</P>

[timboi]

<DIV>^^ lmfao</DIV>

[Margen]

<P>The Life Tap description is straight forward enough, but I for one found the Death March description confusing, I understand that it is an offensive increase, but what does it do, increase weapons ability, act as a haste?  Plus from what it looks like on the description you can eitther increase the pct or time that the ability last, be kind of a pain in the middle of combat going through that process.</P> <P>Plus the word essence in the description raise the question does it require a compent, something like our pet requires?  Or is just something that just uses power?</P> <P>If these questions are seem silly sorry, just looked at that description and went uhh?  Maybe due to not having enough coffee LOL.</P> <P>Thanks for any information on this subject </P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath</P> <p>Message Edited by Margen on <span class=date_text>08-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:43 AM</span>

[vwlsskng]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Margen wrote:<BR> <P>The Life Tap description is straight forward enough, but I for one found the Death March description confusing, I understand that it is an offensive increase, but what does it do, increase weapons ability, act as a haste?  Plus from what it looks like on the description you can eitther increase the pct or time that the ability last, be kind of a pain in the middle of combat going through that process.</P> <P>Plus the word essence in the description raise the question does it require a compent, something like our pet requires?  Or is just something that just uses power?</P> <P>If these questions are seem silly sorry, just looked at that description and went uhh?  Maybe due to not having enough coffee LOL.</P> <P>Thanks for any information on this subject </P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath</P> <P>Message Edited by Margen on <SPAN class=date_text>08-22-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:43 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Confusing? I think you have to be smoking crack to understand it. It adds DPS, then subtracts it, then adds it, then subtracts it, ad nauseum.<BR> <p>Message Edited by vwlssknght on <span class=date_text>08-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:53 AM</span>

[Gaedan]

lol at the "Dude Where's My Death March" <div></div>

[Brash]

<font color="#9933ff"><font size="2"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Mana Sieve & Vein Tap are very nice, very SKish abilities.  Death March if I understand it correctly will increase the dps of the SK's group every 15 secs for a minute.  I think it could be very useful especially if the group is in danger of a wipe and you need to get MOB's dead fast in order to survive.  This skill may end up being one of the best things to happen to our class in a looong time.  </font></font></font><div></div>

[carnh]

Who cares what it does! I like the name of it =) A very SK'ish spell name <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Dogm]

<P>I don't know if it is intended or not because the description doesn't mention it but Tap Veins is currently an AE lifetap. Hits every mob for damage and heals you for 236 for each mob it hits. VERY NICE.</P> <P>And I think getting a mana tap is amazing also. I hope they add a whole line of these in for us,</P>

[Damanex]

<span><blockquote><hr>Dogmae wrote:<div></div> <p>I don't know if it is intended or not because the description doesn't mention it but Tap Veins is currently an AE lifetap. Hits every mob for damage and heals you for 236 for each mob it hits. VERY NICE.</p> <p>And I think getting a mana tap is amazing also. I hope they add a whole line of these in for us,</p><hr></blockquote>Wow my bad for not realizing this is an AoE lifetap And I assume this can be a multiple encounter lifetap since there is NO LIMIT on the description as to how many mobs can be tapped (think MoTM AoE lifetap)?</span><div></div>

[vTenebr]

Mm... AE lifetap.  I'm really starting to look forward to the changes <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Eatu]

<DIV>i talked to a dev about this and the lifetap is in fact a AE lifetap but i think its suppposed to be like a "touch" ae. so its not supposed to be  ranged.  so its great for tanking like 30 mobs (think Meeting of hte minds) since there is no limit, you could potentially lifetap all 30 or so mobs, and it adds all their hp tapped to the SK. (how it was explained to me).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>as far as death's march.  its supposed to be a buff (not sure if it requires component) but for a minute time, after you kill a mob it increases the dps of the grp. so the more you kill the more your dps goes up.  now again this is how it was expliained to me .  how it may work *and whether it is broken or not* i am not sure about. i havent gotten to test it out extensively yet.</DIV>

[Rylight]

An Aoe lifetap that taps each mob in the encounter......maybe the devs actually are reading my post afterall!!!

[Ne]

<DIV>If Death march adds a serious amount of DPS for our group I am the happiest SK around! That would mean that SKs would be very very useful in raids, without increasing our own DPS so much that all scouts out there cry nerf! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Really sweet if it works like that! Its in theme, its useful and all is well! </DIV>

[Dogm]

<P>well they finally added a little more info to these spells.</P> <P>Tap Veins is an AE lifetap that centers around the caster like our other ae's costs 196 power and has a 1 minute reuse</P> <P>Death march lasts 1 minue and has a 3 minute recast and when something is killed it adds 55% dps to the group</P>

[megatra]

Wow sounds nice. I immediately had a mental image of main assisting in meeting of the minds on the named Blade. His aoe finally gets my health down low so I just walk to the middle of all his summoned adds and cast tap veins. Nice heal <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Margen]

<P>Wow an AOE LT that is sweet, be a very nice tool for us.  And now that I can figure out what the heck Death March does <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> sounds like that is a nice add too, can increase our utility to groups and raids.  Hopefully they don't nerf them to heck and back, kind of looking forward to getting up to 50 and getting them. </P> <P>One more question if anyone has the answer, on Death March what does upgrading the spell increase, the pct or time factor?</P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath</P>

[Dogm]

Most likely it will up the dps %, but right now there is no way to upgrade these spells. I will also bet that these spells will swap around in level , possible being our level 60 spells. They could have just added them at 50 to gather test info from them, and plan on moving them later.

[RaptorBite]

<div></div>O...k I am not one to complain, but is this a joke? SK -  (1) Gibberish  (2) another sad life tap with a 2/3  power/heal ratio          <font color="#ffff00">(1) Why did they just copy paste the code into the spell examine window?  (2) Useful when fighting 3+ mobs, otherwise waste of power</font><font color="#ffff00"> </font> Pally - (1) 56% chance that they will not die when killed, all i can say is W T F, 30 minute recast though  (2) better HOs  (3) 18% aggro steal         <font color="#ffff00"> <font color="#ffcc00">(1) ^^^Superman DNA?^^^  (2) I have no idea why only have the fighters get better HOs  (3)  Thats pretty darn, fri<font color="#ffff00">ggin awesome and can be used every minute.</font></font></font> Monks - (1) 2360 dmg ward!! 1.5 minute recast!! and (2) a new feign death.              <font color="#ffff00"> (1) It only lasts 5 seconds but cost no power (2) *no comment*</font> Guardians - (1) Better HOs  (2) New Dmg CA  (3) A pet... and I am willing to bet its better than the SK pet                     <font color="#ffff00">(1) Another of the lucky classes toget a better HO  (2) *no comment*  (3) They are invading what i thought was our territory, but i dont know if this is a bad thing yet</font><font color="#ffff00"> </font> Bruisers - (1) Awesome new dmg CA  (2) Medium dmg CA  (3) Ability to take the full dmg of one hit for group member                 <font color="#ffff00"> (1) seems a bit high, but i dont know much about bruisers  (2)  long range teleport attack??? dbz?, j/k  (3) Not a bad little tool when someone aggros by mistake or just to take a little dmg off of the MT if you arent MT</font> Berserker - (1) Pretty handy Taunt  (2) 12% GROUP DPS increase                   <font color="#ffff00"> (1) Really good taunt from what i can tell  (2) Nice dmg increase, but uses health over time <font color="#ffffff">So its the basic shtick again eh? Guardians and Pallies own all Monks, Bruisers and Berzerkers make out generally even SKs get the shaft... again  ([Removed for Content] does that crap on our spell effects mean???) [[[If i am missing something or are just blatently wrong about something, tell me and i'll fix it]]] </font></font><div></div><p>Message Edited by RaptorBite on <span class=date_text>08-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:09 PM</span>

[Sine]

well i think 55% increase in dps compares favorably, the lifte tap could be 1:1 doing less damage than it does now so the glass is half full not half empty, and you didn't even address mana sieve.  If you want to witch, at least address the issues about taunt and whether soulrend, our 2nd stun, will affect epics. <div></div>

[RaptorBite]

I only addressed the spells that were shown in the link by OP <div></div>

[Margen]

<P>The dps buff is a nice add (just wish the dang description was a bit clearer), it will be a nice ability that will add to our desierbility when we aren't tanking (which is something I am very worried about).  As for the AOE tap, if it comes out in live where it takes the hp from the mobs and gives us health back for each mob that is a very nice ability, can help a bit in both survivability and maybe aggro.  Haven't seen a link on the mana sieve yet so really can't judge it, if it doesn't suck could be a nice ability also.</P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath</P>