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DUNN
08-12-2005, 03:29 AM
<DIV>Anything else they want to add to us to worry about?  Being a sk will be a complicated game of figuring out what stats  to increase and finding that golden piece with the right combination.   I already told the mages in the guild to be ready.  Us crusaders are going to take your intelligence items for when we are not tanking LOL.  i will take my dps any way i can. If it means increasing my IN to 300 plus i will do it lol.</DIV>

Exmortis_MT
08-12-2005, 04:38 PM
<P>Just remember INT will only enhance spells, STR will enhance combat Arts, yes a balance indeed.</P> <P>One note to remember, STR enchances combat arts and auto attack damage.</P> <P>Now where are my scales?</P> <P> </P>

PhozFa
08-12-2005, 05:31 PM
I think even thou INT and WIS will have an effect for us after the changes we should still focus on STR/STA/AGI like tanks are doing atm. most our dps is gonna be auto attack dps STR will have a much bigger impact on out dps than INT/WIS. Kinda like a mage will focus on INT/WIS even thou STR/STA/AGI will be of some use they will see more results with a high INT/WIS <div></div>

PhozFa
08-12-2005, 06:48 PM
thinking about it i wanted to slightly correct myself, WIS will play a more important role than INT fr defensive reasons. If we are gonna be called on to fight disease based foes it'd help alot to have a decent WIS to aviod some of the spells. IMO from a roleplay perspective thats kinda dumb. "Hey go get George the Wise to take a beating for us" <div></div>

DUNN
08-12-2005, 08:00 PM
<P>You are correct, about those stats.  But when you are not the tank INT and STR will be the stats to focus on.  I for one am not the main tank in raids in my guild and probably will not be after revamp.  So when tanking You will need STA/AGI/WIS and when not taanking INT/STR. We will have to have two sets of gear or find some that are well balanced (currently none in Game). </P>

Dogm
08-12-2005, 08:58 PM
<P>Yeah for tanking we will need STA for Hps, AGI to get hit for less in melee, and Wis to take less spell damage.</P> <P>And for DPSing STA for getting hit with AE's,  STR melee damage, INT spell damage.</P> <P>Which kinda sucks for Crusaders/Bards because we will find all 5 stats usefull, where a Warrior doesnt need to worry about int, and a Mage/priest doesnt need to worry about STR or AGI, and Scouts (except bards) don't need to worry about Int.</P>

Exmortis_MT
08-12-2005, 08:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> PhozFate wrote:<BR> If we are gonna be called on to fight disease based foes it'd help alot to have a decent WIS to aviod some of the spells. IMO from a roleplay perspective thats kinda dumb. "Hey go get George the Wise to take a beating for us"<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Actually it is not so dumb if you find yourself thinking outside curious george.  WIS is a numerical represntation of your mind strength and ability for you to utilize your willpower.  Not gained due to some titel given by a monkey.</P> <P>High WIS represents a strong mind, ability to repelle the will of others, thus is an important part of your abiity to resist any spell cast upon you.</P> <P>I like the idea, making every stat we have useful and important, allows each person to define them selves.  Those who want to tank, or dps, or support or be jack of all trade SKs have one more way enwhich to defien themselves.<BR></P>

PhozFa
08-12-2005, 09:00 PM
I see your point but atleast with myself i try to focus more on taking a hit then giving one just for the fact I'm a tank first. I like to be able to do that job the best i can when i'm called to do it. Which for me atleast is in just about all non-raid situations. I'll also point out my guild is very priest and scout heavy. Keeping extra hex dolls and imbued rings helps adjust my roll also. Yea when tanking now i'll need STA/AGI/WIS and thats an extra stat to worry about but when filling the gimped dps roll wouldn't you use STR/INT/AGI. I may be wrong but doesn't AGI play some part in in how often you land a blow? <div></div>

PhozFa
08-12-2005, 09:07 PM
<div></div>PhozFate wrote: If we are gonna be called on to fight disease based foes it'd help alot to have a decent WIS to aviod some of the spells. IMO from a roleplay perspective thats kinda dumb. "Hey go get George the Wise to take a beating for us"<hr><p>Actually it is not so dumb if you find yourself thinking outside curious george.  WIS is a numerical represntation of your mind strength and ability for you to utilize your willpower.  Not gained due to some titel given by a monkey.</p><p>High WIS represents a strong mind, ability to repelle the will of others, thus is an important part of your abiity to resist any spell cast upon you.</p><p>I like the idea, making every stat we have useful and important, allows each person to define them selves.  Those who want to tank, or dps, or support or be jack of all trade SKs have one more way enwhich to defien themselves.</p><div>Exmortis Darkenblade50 Shadowlord and KnightMember of TempestPermasfrost Server----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yea i guess you do have a point there. I do really like the idea of being able to define ourselves more with our stats. I'd be nice not to be exactly like that other 50 SK standing there. Althou atleast on my server all you have to do is not be a barbarian SK it seems to be diffrent.</div><div></div>

Exmortis_MT
08-12-2005, 09:13 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Yea i guess you do have a point there. I do really like the idea of being able to define ourselves more with our stats. I'd be nice not to be exactly like that other 50 SK standing there. Althou atleast on my server all you have to do is not be a barbarian SK it seems to be diffrent.<BR><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Wow most are barbarians?  Ogres and DE in perma i think, but I could be wrong.  Troll SKs used to be most popular on my eq1 server.  There are not many SKs active on permafrost, I was 49 for ever and still was 26th to 50.</P> <P><BR> </P>

PhozFa
08-12-2005, 09:22 PM
I'm on Mistmoore i see alot of barbs and Trolls mostly barbs. I don't see as many ogres as i think there should be, i figured with +5 defense there would be more. I pry see  more DEs than ogre sks. but that can also be cause i'm a DE so i notice them more. I've been 50 less than 2 months and i was SK #49 or 50, can't remember but its around there. but anyway this is another topic <span>:smileytongue:</span> <div></div>

Deadjest
08-13-2005, 08:30 AM
<P>Anyone have a idea how much a effect Agi will have for Fighters in the revamp?</P> <P>Also, Wis is the opposing number to Int, and if I remember correctly Agi is opposite to Str.   If they drop the effects Agi has for fighters, will this all effect how it detracts from the enemies Str Bonus?</P> <P>I took Agi in all my traits, does anyone think it will be worth while to keep it if I respect after the revamp?</P> <p>Message Edited by Deadjester on <span class=date_text>08-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:33 AM</span>

MadTexan
08-13-2005, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Exmortis_MT wrote: <P>Wow most are barbarians?  Ogres and DE in perma i think, but I could be wrong.  Troll SKs used to be most popular on my eq1 server.  There are not many SKs active on permafrost, I was 49 for ever and still was 26th to 50.<BR></P> <HR> <P>I was going to play a human SK, but when I saw how bandy and skinny his legs looked in chain I sure didn't want to see what he would look like in plate. Basically, I chose barbarian since he has heroic proportions and makes plate look darn good.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

Zenthiel
08-13-2005, 10:50 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MadTexan wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I was going to play a human SK, but when I saw how bandy and skinny his legs looked in chain I sure didn't want to see what he would look like in plate. Basically, I chose barbarian since he has heroic proportions and makes plate look darn good.</P></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Ironic how I had the opposite reaction.  I started as a barbarian and thought he looked great in his leather loincloth Conan outfit.  But when I put plate on him it just didn't look natural, more like a bodybuilder in a knight's costum.  I ended up rerolling human partly because I like how they look in plate and partly because everyone else was rolling every race BUT human to be "more unique". :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

Faidheanta
08-13-2005, 11:37 PM
was looking for a bit of a challenge so my little female halfling SK fits the bill - surprisingly good