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Shadowles

07-27-2005, 10:20 PM

<DIV> 1)I dont want to tank more, i want more DPS as a SK, were the dmg counterparts of a pally, save the tanking for pallies and guardians. Sk and zerker should get a dps boots in all spell/skill lines. 2)Our pets blow, we get a freaken blob and bird , wheres the thought out uniqueness of our class and pets???? Were evil we need our pets to portray that well. 3)Our lifetaps blow, they need to be raised up quite a bit, compared to our pally counterpart they get ubah heals, our lifetaps are useless atm. 4)Sk's should be able to cast a shadowy form to invis us undetectable to mobs, where is it? 5)Epic armor and Epic weapons should be class specific and complimetary to each class..period. 6)We should get more direct high dmg spells not all this AOE junk that doesnt do diddly squat, were not mages, we shouldnt be aoe'in, we need more direct dmg spells.</DIV>Message Edited by Shadowles on 07-27-2005 11:30 AM

vwlsskng

07-28-2005, 12:14 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shadowles wrote: <DIV> 2)Our pets blow, we get a freaken blob and bird , wheres the thought out uniqueness of our class and pets???? Were evil we need our pets to portray that well. 4)Sk's should be able to cast a shadowy form to invis us undetectable to mobs, where is it? 5)Epic armor and Epic weapons should be class specific and complimetary to each class..period. <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> It's a mistake to think of our Sacrament spells as pets. Pets persist and can be controlled, while what we summon does not and cannot. As for their appearance, I couldn't agree more. I think some more thought should have gone into their design. Neither an elemental nor a bird seem cohesive to the ideal of the class. And it doesn't make sense hearing the either of the two speak using the same voice that just about any skeleton does, besides, if the bird is going to screech, I don't think having him say something about "pretty eyes," in an English accent, in the same breath is very realistic. SCREECH! I do say, a crumpit would be nice with your entrails. We were given three invis spells as a class in EQL, two of which were specific to undead. From a role-playing perspective, that made perfect sense, and I've never understood why that ability was taken away from us and replaced with . . . evac. Why would a valiant knight, evidencing fearlessness, have a spell that helps him flee a battle? At least with invis you're strategically navigating your way to a better vantage with which to strike, in most cases, anyway. Ah, my greatest pet peeve of them all, a lack of class specific items that define us, aesthetically. I would love to be able to have a full suit of Shadow Knight-only armour and wield a Shadow Knight-only weapon. They had that right in EQL . . . the lines between the classes were more clearly defined and each class had something "special" that they alone could do, while this time around everything feels so generic. Some people don't care about the role-playing aspect of it all, nor do they care if a Ranger can swing the Shadowblade of Zeal in combat, while others, thankfully, do. Things will get better with the coming expansion. I hope.

Exmortis_MT

07-28-2005, 12:26 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shadowles wrote: <DIV> 1)I dont want to tank more, i want more DPS as a SK, were the dmg counterparts of a pally, save the tanking for pallies and guardians. Sk and zerker should get a dps boots in all spell/skill lines. Well like it or not we are tanks, thats right plate wearing tanks. If you dont like it play a scout, or a monk, play an SK you have said I like tanking to some degree. Everybody is getting a DPS reduction, everybody. Overall we will a small reduction in where we stand. SKs will be 4th out of 6 melees. I beleive we need a improvment in our tanking and so do most here, and devs it would seem. 2)Our pets blow, we get a freaken blob and bird , wheres the thought out uniqueness of our class and pets???? Were evil we need our pets to portray that well. What makes you think having a pet makes us unique? We are first and foremost a melee class, want pets? Go play a Necromancer or a Conjurer, those are the true pet classes. Personally I think our pet fills the role it was intended, a low powered long term dot. I want pets gone from the SK class, its a waste of resources best put to other abiltiies. Give us the ability to inflict pain and suffering, not steal a bit of a soul to make a weak pet. We will never have a strong pet, if we do it will come at an incredible cost to our other abilites, soemthing I will not give up. So please, can everyone just drop the pet idea, and lets get devs thinking important changes, like secondary effects, better taunts, more crippling attacks, unique HOs, unique strenghts and buffs we can bring to groups and raids. 3)Our lifetaps blow, they need to be raised up quite a bit, compared to our pally counterpart they get ubah heals, our lifetaps are useless atm. Remember, we are evil reavers not healers, this will always be the case. But i agree, our lifetaps need improvment, see the thread on this, alot of good conversation there and ideas. 4)Sk's should be able to cast a shadowy form to invis us undetectable to mobs, where is it? What makes you say that? we are plate wearing, big sword wielding knights of divine punishment. Having invis shoudl be reserved for mages and scouts. I see no reason we shoudl have this, its not the kind of utility i care to see, and in lieu of this, give us better group buffs, better self buffs, utility that matters. I dont see SKs creeping around like cowardly mages and rogues. Shadowknights ride forth, boldly brinign down the divine judgment by means of pain and suffering. We do not hide, run around our foes, we face them, head on. And they will rue the day they themselves did not move for us. 5)Epic armor and Epic weapons should be class specific and complimetary to each class..period. But you said we were nto tanks? Why woudl we need epic armor? EQ2 is not even an epic game yet, give i time. We have prismatics, and IF you had done this quest you woudl know this is not over, there is much more coming. the lore behind Naggy and Vox is down right epic in proportions, its extremely well written and engaging. To date, short of the SK epic from eq1, the best story i have see in an onlien game. I cannot say on armor, we as a guild are not there, give us time. I hear rumors of wyrmsteel, but i have no such knowledge yet. Please wait until your there before commenting. 6)We should get more direct high dmg spells not all this AOE junk that doesnt do diddly squat, were not mages, we shouldnt be aoe'in, we need more direct dmg spells. I disagree, and I cannot understand why you do not want AoE atacks? They are some of our most power efficient attacks, and extremely useful with aggro control. I want a few more in encounter AEs but lets keep our out of encounter ones too. Yes we have 2 in encounter AES, but the agonizing cry line is broken, fix it and I will be happy. We dont need any more Direct attacks, we have a great line up, what we need is for them to work properly, and have better secondary effects. If you wanted to be top of the melee chain, you should have played an assasin, not a Shadowknight.</DIV> Message Edited by Shadowles on 07-27-2005 11:30 AM <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Shadowknights, brothers and Sisters, please rememebr the revamp is a DPS reduction for all classes, and a re balance of where within the heirarchy we will be, we will end up not much different then we are now, a sligth reduction. But please also remember that a Guard in all fabled will out DPS a monk in all Treasured. Moorgard has stated, that autoattck damage will be of much more importance, remember this, those FBSS;s will suddenyl be important, those rings of the slayer will be most wanted. The devs have my full support of this, the gear we use shoudl mean much, in the DPS we do. Good luck my breathren, on your quets for prismatic swords, and may the divine hand of punishment giude your way.

Crotal

07-28-2005, 12:56 AM

Personnaly I love the role as an AOE tank. When grouped with wizzys, or any class that can damage shieled we wip through groups of heroic mobs. My favorites are the heroic groups with no ^ and 4 to 6 individuals. Cycling through 4 AE damage spells, and the AE taunt I hold all the aggro, and the mobs often die before I turn from my first target. Gotta love the Crushing anvil HOs when they pop up during a multiple group fight as well. Whats not to like about AOE attacks?

MichaelSOchman

07-28-2005, 10:20 AM

If its true they are reducing DPS then they are saying that soloing is not really an option anymore, if you want to play or gain any kind of xp's or do any quests you will need to group, that is if you can always get one or have the time too. I don't mind having AOE's but the should hit only the group we are fighting instead of everything in the area, there are alot of places that we won't be using them and we therefore are not using our full potential. Our Lifetaps do suck and need to be upgraded, we should also have some kind of Power draining spells that give us some of that power also, since our spells and abilities use alot of power that we run out before we are finished fighting the first creature unless you like fighting a long long long time as we will with the reduced damage we will soon be doing. They should also change the *****MULE***** they gave us for a Horse, or to those that complain about us getting horses make us do a quest for a Horse or one to upgrade the Mule we now have. Which they should have done in the beginning.