Don't you feel their is an inbalance betwin Zerker and SK ?

[yzyh]

<DIV>Myself I am playing a paladin as main character. So I have no reason to prefer SK over Zerker. But ATM we all know the zerker is simply the  best tank to have in a group and mainy zerker tank in raids.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And the combat revemp just seem realy unfaire for zerker vs SK IMO. You will both have about the same DPS. The berzerk ability wont negative their defence that much so they still beeing able to tank using these. They have far betther taunt then SK.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only + SK do have over Zerker is their ability to cast weak life tap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IMO they should have made something like Berzeker in defencive stance do same or less dps then a guardian. But in berzek (DPS mode no tanking ability )   they would do more dps then a SK.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No one else feel like this ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the bigining I were wondering betwin a paladin or a SK. And I am glad that I went Paladin when I see my friend SK.</DIV><p>Message Edited by yzyh on <span class=date_text>07-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:13 AM</span>

[DUNN]

All i want the devs to do is fix our taunts, power consumption and  lifetaps.. who cares what Berzerkers and other classes can do or not do.  That is not a concern our current skills are what worry me.  <P>Message Edited by DUNN on <SPAN class=date_text>07-13-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:52 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by DUNN on <span class=date_text>07-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:04 PM</span>

[Exmortis_MT]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> yzyh wrote:<BR> <DIV>Myself I am playing a paladin as main character. So I have no reason to prefer SK over Zerker. But ATM we all know the zerker is simply the  best tank to have in a group and mainy zerker tank in raids.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And the combat revemp just seem realy unfaire for zerker vs SK IMO. You will both have about the same DPS. The berzerk ability wont negative their defence that much so they still beeing able to tank using these. They have far betther taunt then SK.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only + SK do have over Zerker is their ability to cast weak life tap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IMO they should have made something like Berzeker in defencive stance do same or less dps then a guardian. But in berzek (DPS mode no tanking ability )   they would do more dps then a SK.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No one else feel like this ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the bigining I were wondering betwin a paladin or a SK. And I am glad that I went Paladin when I see my friend SK.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by yzyh on <SPAN class=date_text>07-13-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:13 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Honestly none of this makes one hoot of a diff, revamp inc. what happens after is all that matters.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[Merdo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> yzyh wrote:<BR> <DIV>Myself I am playing a paladin as main character. So I have no reason to prefer SK over Zerker. <FONT color=#ff0000>But ATM we all know the zerker is simply the  best tank to have in a group and mainy zerker tank in raids.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>.... are you serious? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe I'm just being gullible here and your post is a big joke.... but that is one of the most retarted thing I've read in these SK forums yet!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>#1. Stay in paladin forums unless you know what you're talking about. To help you find it.. <BR></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=10" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board?board.id=10</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>#2. Spell check your posts, it's the least you can do for making us read it. (Yes, I have to read it to realize it's something I wish I hadn't, and by then it's too late).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These forums are full of enough uninformed and incorrect information as it is! Threads like this only make similarly uninformed people that might be interested in a shadowknight afraid to try one because they think you know what you're talking about! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Merdoth on <span class=date_text>07-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:42 AM</span>

[Bruener]

Merdoth have you grouped with Bezerkers at all?  It makes me sick.  Their ability to control agro and the ease with which they do it is bad enough.  Compound that with the fact that they get great DPS and can still be defensive while doing it....oh not to mention their buffs are phenominal.  The worse part is that they don't even have to break a sweat doing it.  I hope there are some serious changes with the revamp b/c right now as it stands Bezerkers seem to have the best of both worlds while the SK still seems to be broken.

[YummiOger]

<DIV>Ya Yzyh is right ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Comperably Equipt / Buffed a Bezerker will have More HPs, Mitigation, DPS (Self and Group Haste), and Tuant ability than a SK. Thats just the way it is :robotsad: ....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Iv been Lv 50 for a good while (feb.) ... and have grouped with many Zerks ,,, what else is there to say?..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yummy Izbad</DIV> <DIV>Faydark</DIV> <DIV>50Armor/50SK</DIV> <DIV>Imperium</DIV>

[Deadjest]

<P>I think my first duty will be to avoid Spellcheck, cause I can.</P> <P>If they fix our power consumption, fix our taunting, fix our life taps, and give us some nice debuffs, I will be happy.</P>

[Exmortis_MT]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bruener wrote:<BR>Merdoth have you grouped with Bezerkers at all?  It makes me sick.  Their ability to control agro and the ease with which they do it is bad enough.  Compound that with the fact that they get great DPS and can still be defensive while doing it....oh not to mention their buffs are phenominal.  The worse part is that they don't even have to break a sweat doing it.  I hope there are some serious changes with the revamp b/c right now as it stands Bezerkers seem to have the best of both worlds while the SK still seems to be broken. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have, and once I learned to drop the board and switched to 2 handed sword, I not only beat them majority of the time in the parse, I held aggro about 75% of time, and dont use many taunts.</P> <P> </P>

[yzyh]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Exmortis_MT wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bruener wrote:<BR>Merdoth have you grouped with Bezerkers at all?  It makes me sick.  Their ability to control agro and the ease with which they do it is bad enough.  Compound that with the fact that they get great DPS and can still be defensive while doing it....oh not to mention their buffs are phenominal.  The worse part is that they don't even have to break a sweat doing it.  I hope there are some serious changes with the revamp b/c right now as it stands Bezerkers seem to have the best of both worlds while the SK still seems to be broken. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have, and once I learned to drop the board and switched to 2 handed sword, I not only beat them majority of the time in the parse, I held aggro about 75% of time, and dont use many taunts.</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>If the berzeker is tanking and using a shield. yeah sure you will out dps him with a 2hander. If you stole the aggro from a berzeker. Thats bcuz he wasn't trying to keep aggro or he is really dumb at playing his character. Especialy fi you are not using al of your taunt.</P> <P> </P> <P>Its just a  fact that almost everyone will pick up a berzeker over a SK in his group exept if he do know the SK personaly.</P> <P> </P> <P>But well in combat revamp SoE stated that Berzeker and SK wil be on same DPS.</P> <P>But zerker will keep  its best taunt and betther mitigation ability (or its avoidance cant remember witch one)</P> <P>And they are not planing to give a real nerf to their tanking ability while they are in berzeker mode.</P>

[Rylight]

<DIV>Im not even gonna reply to half this junk, im going somewhere else</DIV>

[PhozFa]

I don't understand why there is a post talking about an imbalance in the fighters. There is a reason for this revamp. SoE admits zerkers are overpowered.  i think the only real question is how are fighters exactly going to be "balanced" after this. That we won't really know for sure untill the changes go live and the players can find holes they didnt in thier perfect system. <div></div>

[Exmortis_MT]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> PhozFate wrote:<BR>I don't understand why there is a post talking about an imbalance in the fighters. There is a reason for this revamp. SoE admits zerkers are overpowered. <BR><BR> i think the only real question is how are fighters exactly going to be "balanced" after this. That we won't really know for sure untill the changes go live and the players can find holes they didnt in thier perfect system. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I agree, but. there is no such thing as a perfect system, there will always be perceived holes in any system by many.  I hoping for the best possible system.</P> <P><BR> </P>