*pounding on the dead horse*

[Jaqua_Krynn]

<DIV>I have a level 24 SK while I may not have been here for 50 levels I do have some concerns..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lastnight I tried to do the solo instance of splitpaw mission one.. Mind you nearly all of my CA's are at adept 1 and if not then they sit at app4 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I fought my way to the main chamber only to be killed by a gnoll who chain healed him self and this mob was yellow conned</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not complaining that I died.. what I am getting at is where is the DPS for SK's?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see berserkers doing massive damage and being able to buff an entire group with several spells</DIV> <DIV>I see Guardians able to use some decent buffs as well and hold aggro</DIV> <DIV>I see Paladin's heal for 1k points and are about the same as SK's in terms of damage</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I dont see is the uniqueness of our class.. Again I know im not in the end game.. But im hoping that our class will be worthwhile or atleast make our lifetaps on par with the Paladin heal.. 12 hps for a life tap blows and I havent been hit for that little since level 13 and I know that it is a taunt but so what.. I dont want to be the "Main Tank" I want to be the feared SK that no one messes with.. besides SK aggro control is laughable compared to every other plate tank at least Pallys can generate hate by healing other members</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Berserkers should not get thier cake and eat it too.. They are berserkers.. they should have the defence of a lame cow in a shooting range, not just tank better than every class except the guardian.. not just buff the entire group but  get and hold aggro as easily as a guardian.. which leaves palladins and SK's in the back field as far as fighters go </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dunno man there is nothing unholy about being unholy these days.. </DIV>

[yzyh]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jaqua_Krynn wrote:<BR> <DIV>I see berserkers doing massive damage and being able to buff an entire group with several spells</DIV> <DIV>I see Guardians able to use some decent buffs as well and hold aggro</DIV> <DIV>I see Paladin's heal for 1k points and are about the same as SK's in terms of damage<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>SoE are working to put SK and Berseker on the same DPS table.</DIV> <DIV>Paladin DPS will e nerfed to guardian one.</DIV> <DIV>And Your point about Guardian being able to hodl aggro and buff ok is far to mean an unbalance in the game.</DIV>

[Collaud]

Level 24 is when I quit my SK and started a Paladin.  What you're seeing is exactly what I saw.  With wards being broken, SKs just don't have the offensive output to offset the healing of a Paladin.  I did a lot of reading before I quit, and the overwhelming consensus was that SK offense, even with a pet, is only a little better than Paladin offense.  I sincerely hope that SK offense is increased to compensate for the lack of heals (fixing wards will help a lot too), but until then I'll continue playing my Paladin.

[Margen]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jaqua_Krynn wrote:<BR> <DIV>I have a level 24 SK while I may not have been here for 50 levels I do have some concerns..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lastnight I tried to do the solo instance of splitpaw mission one.. Mind you nearly all of my CA's are at adept 1 and if not then they sit at app4</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I fought my way to the main chamber only to be killed by a gnoll who chain healed him self and this mob was yellow conned</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not complaining that I died.. what I am getting at is where is the DPS for SK's?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see berserkers doing massive damage and being able to buff an entire group with several spells</DIV> <DIV>I see Guardians able to use some decent buffs as well and hold aggro</DIV> <DIV>I see Paladin's heal for 1k points and are about the same as SK's in terms of damage</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I dont see is the uniqueness of our class.. Again I know im not in the end game.. But im hoping that our class will be worthwhile or atleast make our lifetaps on par with the Paladin heal.. 12 hps for a life tap blows and I havent been hit for that little since level 13 and I know that it is a taunt but so what.. I dont want to be the "Main Tank" I want to be the feared SK that no one messes with.. besides SK aggro control is laughable compared to every other plate tank at least Pallys can generate hate by healing other members</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Berserkers should not get thier cake and eat it too.. They are berserkers.. they should have the defence of a lame cow in a shooting range, not just tank better than every class except the guardian.. not just buff the entire group but  get and hold aggro as easily as a guardian.. which leaves palladins and SK's in the back field as far as fighters go</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I dunno man there is nothing unholy about being unholy these days..</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>If it makes you feel any better (which it won't), at level 39 I tried the solo arena this morning, went through all the mobs fine till last mob the champion (41st Level MOB).  Tried it twice an both times I failed, first time I ran out of power when I tried using the wards and lifetaps and died, 2nd time I just used ward and went pure DPS, even HT the SOB, still died best I did was like getting him down to 15 pct health.  All my gear is orange/Yellow and all my spells are Adept 1 or better.  Not sure what to try next.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>V/R</DIV> <DIV><BR>Blackoath 39th Troll Shadow Knight</DIV>

[Jaqua_Krynn]

<P>kinda funny really all that info about sk's being on par with berserkers and the rest of that jazz Moorgard said he didnt say... yet i went to gamespy? gamespot? hmm one of those and read the interview.. </P> <P>now.. i dont know which one is lying but filter thru the dev tracker and you will see what i mean..</P> <P>All i want is to be able to do damage.. thats it i dont want to be a main tank.. thats not our role as far as im concerned.. i mean it may be for some and thats fine too.. i just want to do damage.. if SOE wants to make berserkers outdamage all fighters and have group buffs then i say why even have SK's in the game... personally i feel that this has been going on much to long without some sort of small fix and god knows how long it will be untill the combat balance hits live.. until then i feel like im a [Removed for Content] with this toon</P>

[Humuhumunukunukuapua]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jaqua_Krynn wrote:<BR> <DIV>I have a level 24 SK while I may not have been here for 50 levels I do have some concerns..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lastnight I tried to do the solo instance of splitpaw mission one.. Mind you nearly all of my CA's are at adept 1 and if not then they sit at app4 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I fought my way to the main chamber only to be killed by a gnoll who chain healed him self and this mob was yellow conned</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im not complaining that I died.. what I am getting at is where is the DPS for SK's?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see berserkers doing massive damage and being able to buff an entire group with several spells</DIV> <DIV>I see Guardians able to use some decent buffs as well and hold aggro</DIV> <DIV>I see Paladin's heal for 1k points and are about the same as SK's in terms of damage<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not to take away from the intent of your post, but I just wanted to point out that both Pally's and Zerkers are having trouble with the last fight (haven't looked at Guardians) - check their boards.  So SK DPS might not be the only reason behind this.</P> <P>Seems like the only people that have had success have rare items like Ebon, imbued everything, Screaming Mace, etc.  Haven't tried him yet, but there's nothing worse than wasting a bunch of mana, only to see the person heal to full health and you at 40% mana.   Seems like the 2 problems people are encountering are him having too much power (therefore healing himself) and him putting out heavy damage when his health gets low.  You could try throwing up a ward before the fight, casting your pet (or both if this is still possible) and wait for the pet(s) to gain aggro, and see how much power the pet can drag out from him, and take aggro back just before your pet dies.  Hopefully that will lower his power a bit for you before the fight truly starts.  Then beat on him and when he starts getting low on health, try to interrupt his heals and when he gets low enough, try to harm touch (if it doesn't get resisted) as a finishing move.  Like I said, haven't tried, but it's worth a shot, especially if you haven't got any special items (rares, imbued, potions, etc.).</P>

[Margen]

<P>I actually tried using the pet to wear him down when I did the 2nd fight, for some reason I cast the pet on him and he made a straight beeline to me.  Might of been something buggy, don't know.  If someone else tries this and it works please let us know.</P> <P>Blackoath</P>

[Wildgo]

The Sk class is a hard class to play but that is what makes them so much fun. I myself am a 46th Sk and I love it, dont think I would be anything else. as I remember around the 20's I had a rough go as well but after the low passed I have had no problems. And as for agro I have taken it away from a guardian in mid fight, and I have no problem holding when I am mt. My advise is hang in there it does get better and with the new changes who knows what will happen for the better or worse. But above all you have to play something that you like playing. if you dont want the rush and excitment of playing a hard job like a sk then take something that you would like more and give them a try, but I love my Sk and would not trade it for anything.

[yzyh]

<P>If you made a SK to be DM you really made the wrong char. If you forget the priests class. SoE want paladin+guardian to be the worst DPS in game and berzeker+SK just a bit betther in the DPS departement.</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=19811" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=testfeed&message.id=19811</A></P> <P> </P> <P>Sk can main tank so if you would be DPS. Something would be wrong.</P>

[Atam]

<P>yea it was about mid 20's with my SK that i slowed down and when i hit lvl 30's i actually quit because my SK was so blah.  all the things you said where true and its tough, but as soon as you hit lvl 40 things do start to get cooler with being an SK, i really enjoy being and SK now you just stick with it</P> <P> </P> <P>And dont fret the champion in Splitpaw, he can own any class</P>