Full Encounter taunts...needs a change? just curious why it is the way it is.

[IBSomnifer]

<DIV>I was talking to a guardian guildy of mine about taunts last night.   It came up while in the middle of a fight.  I dreadful wrath to pull a group...start a HO..spell...then shout to complete the HO with a encounter shout...I am normally good for agro for the rest of the fight.  Occationally someone will buff late...or cast something just as i'm about to pull..and before i shout.  They pull agro and my shout either is out of range when it goes off or it hits half the group.  </DIV> <DIV>    Currently My Blasphemy spell...(50 shout) has a recast timer of 30seconds...a whole 30 seconds where I can't shout again.  True I have a group buff that pulls a small amount of agro...and some aoes that do nice DD....but aoes are only good in safe spots(and don't always pull agro back).  </DIV> <DIV>     I was curious why is our shout a 30 second recast timer?  Why not 15 or even 10.  What would be the harm in being able to shout more often with the threat lvl it currently has?  Is it that It would take away too much of the chance or danger in fights?  Too easy to keep agro?  I'm not saying I always have trouble with this...just bad timing sometimes lol...where I could benifit from another shout within 0-29 seconds <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />...How about allowing the earlier shouts to not be on the same spell line?  The DoD, and shout line not reset each other...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What do yall think?</DIV>

[Rylight]

<DIV>If we could shout more often and faster then we wouldnt lose aggro, if we didnt lose aggro spells like Graven embrace, harmtouch, and rescue would have little purpose, and that would make so very angry because they wasted their time making up 3 spells that we wouldnt use that often (shhhhh dont tell soe I said that <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>seroiusly though, the 'THRILL' of the fight would dissappear if we could perfectly hold aggro every fight, it supposedly takes skill and stratedgy to keep aggro, not just mashing the shout key.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I agree, 30 seconds seems like a long long time, I remember times when 25 seconds would have saved my group, but sadly that last five seconds is all It takes for a wipe <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but as I said earlier, this is what makes the game a little strategic, sense we cant shout every 10 seconds, then the mages must nuke, but not to much, and the scouts must backstab, but not to much. this is how different classes learn to play their roles. honestly if we could shout every ten seconds then their would be little stopping the mages from going nuke happy EVERY FIGHT. which means we would have to shout the entire fight. we couldnt even use power on anything else, and would be drained at the end of every fight. we wouldnt even be called tanks anymore. ppl would say " we need a shouter to fill our group pst"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>for the most part just keeping using your aoe's and other hate advancing spells to fill in that 30 second gap when shout is out.  honestly the game would kinda be boring if we could always keep aggro. We would have no reason to be excited or alert. we could play the game with one hand tied behind our back. there would be no risk in fights. plus I couldnt scorn that nuke happy mage for going crazy. I kinda like it when they go overboard and then end up getting the crap beat out of them till they are living off an inch of their life, and then you suddenly pull the aggro off them when they are at 3% of there health, only to say at the end of the fight "opps went nuke happy,sorry guys" haha, your dang right you went nuke happy.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anyways I see your point and at the same time I see what soe intended for us.</DIV>

[Braell]

<P>I believe it's 30 seconds due to the rate groups kill mobs, mainly more than one mob in an encounter - if you cast one shout per mob by the time you reach the last one you already have had significant agro on it, lowering the recast time would give you even more solid agro, while at 30 seconds there are still times you can have mobs peel or use it and wish you had saved it, adds a bit of challenge that is needed imho.</P> <P> </P> <P>Braellar</P>

[far]

<DIV>Shout is on a 30 second timer because thats what they determined was fair for ALL warrior AE taunts, the problem is that other classes get more group buffs which also act as taunts (aggro of spell X number of people in group) in essence giving them more AE taunts then we get.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jus' sayin'</DIV>