Shadowknight Pets

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

<DIV>Is everyone using their pet?  Most Shadowknights I have spoken to or grouped with never use their pet.  In fact, I can honestly say I have NEVER seen another Shadowknights pet on Mistmoore.  In fact, in pickup groups, sometimes I'll summon a pet and immediately I'll hear from group members "add", "add", "inc tainted soul".  They had never seen one before either.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is everyone aware that this is one of the most important skills or spells at our disposal?  Maybe I'm preaching to the choir (the eeeeevil choir) but I think most of them don't quite get how important they are.</DIV>

[Uggli]

<div></div>If the fight might last over 30 seconds I usually cast a pet right at the start of battle.  I use it as often as possible as it's a cheap casting, good DPS addition to an encounter.  But I'm in consistant groups. To give an idea of how good of DPS it provides, we killed off the gobbler and it's a long fight.  About 20-25 min or so.  The my pets over the course of the battle ended up doing over 8K damage of my total (me+pet) damage of 31K.  I was only 1K damage behind the highest in the group, and this was with me having to back out of the fight several times to regain mana / life to cast my pet and such.  Pet is VERY useful and almost always over looked. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Uggliey on <span class=date_text>03-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:15 PM</span>

[Khir]

<P>I have 400 essences on me all the time and keep getting more.  In all green+ fights I summon it.  However I haven't seen any one else use it either.  Still It's comments are hillarious and its added dps usually helps (i think).  It also helps chase down mobs when some bugged fear kicks in.  </P> <P>It's also not recognized by most other players who will often yell "ADD" ehehehe</P> <P>I like it and I will continue to use it.  At Adept 1 it's always white to me so I figure it's got to be worth something. </P>

[vwlsskng]

<P>I use it every chance I get, especially while soloing. I've done a lot of exp on grouped green-con mobs and having the pet offtank one while you work on the others speeds things up so very nicely.</P> <P>Basically, if it boosts your DPS, why not use it?</P>

[Margen]

<P>If its a boss mob/or something tough for a full group or I am soloing against something tough will use it, if its normal mobs for just xp grind in a group, I don't bother due to the fact the mob might only last like 10-15 sec.  I view it as a situational thing.</P> <P>P.S. Plus its sometimes good when I cast it and use a hot button with "Fear the mighty [Removed for Content]" LOL</P> <P>V/R</P> <P>Blackoath 27th Troll Shadow Knight</P> <p>Message Edited by Margen on <span class=date_text>03-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:25 PM</span>

[ghosthamm]

one^ or higher always cast it, it is the greatest dot you have. app1 is green vv, but adept 1 pet is white v, and worth it in long battles. Thier  self sustaining, cast essence to debuff target, then summon pet. thats how i work it

[Bron]

Adept3 pet hits for over 300 on specials at level 50, especially if you use despoiling mist on the mob.  If a mob stays up for 30 seconds or more, this pet will probably dole out more damage than any spell you have.  Start thinking of it as a DoT like our "Coil" line and not as a pet that goes poof and you'll use it more often.  When soloing ^^ it is a godsend. <div></div>

[priwog]

<P>to be honest dont think every sk knows how they work which is prob why i only was able to use it due to casting tainted caress thinking it was a damage spell and couldnt understand why it didnt cause any damage then got the pet abilty and already had the tainted essence, if you dont know you need tainted essence first you could try cast pet then not bother since nothing happens with out the tainted essence.</P> <P>i have adpet 1,   i do same cast tainted to pull since its pretty good one to pull with then pet. not sure about anyone else but if fighting two i cast on one then fight the second leaving pet whacking first one not sure if my theory is right but if pet is interupting one it cant be hitting me but could be wrong on this. also pet goes when you kill one it was cast on, but fighting second the pet gets the most use since after second is dead fight the first which is already damaged with pet still going.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>also now tainted is fixed using the pet more often is worth it.</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by priwogic on <span class=date_text>03-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:06 AM</span>

[Morog]

I use it every chance I get and I think it is a great asset to us. Speaking of ... I get the new pet in 5%. How much of an upgrade is it? Is it just a new model for fluff or is there a significant increase in its damage output? Does it cast any buufs/debuffs?

[JoarAddam]

<DIV>I pull with pet when I solo.  usually I'll intentionally lose aggro and let the pet take a hit or two and then step in and start whacking....   here's how I'm soloing non stop in zek right now</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>T.Sac</DIV> <DIV>T.Caress</DIV> <DIV>Painbringer</DIV> <DIV>Infernal pact</DIV> <DIV>infernal pact</DIV> <DIV>(just keep queueing infernal pact until mob is dead)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've made quite a bit of cash (for my level) there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Mistmoore-Milaga]

<P>Just as I suspected.  Everyone here is quite aware of them and uses them regularly.  I guess most of the SKs I meet don't take their class very seriously.  </P> <P>No wonder they whine so much.</P>

[Nocifer Deathblade]

<P>Yeah like others.. I use pet on single or double arrow mob or mobs to solo. I won't use pet on easy mobs for fast kills. Not worth it. For groups, always used pet on tough mobs that takes longer than 30 sec approx. </P>

[Pirotase]

<P>I do the same thing like you , when soloing group mobs ~ </P> <P>sometimes the other mob that I send my pet to it ..may only have very few hp left or even died when I killed the other mob that I didnt cast the pet on it</P> <P>The pet is one of the best spell for us ~  </P> <P>it is sad we cant use both pet at the same time now ..>_<</P>

[Bootstwadd]

I'm ALWAYS using my pet, in groups and solo...I kinda like him...especially when he comes out with those oh-so witty quips as a mob dies... <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I usually pull, buff, start attacking, call my pet, then Tainted Caress...That way I always have an essence.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Has anyone named theirs?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I call mine "Pudding".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Vitriol]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khirsa wrote:<BR> <P>I have 400 essences on me all the time<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You don't need them on you.  The spell will pull them from the bank.<BR>

[Rylight]

<P>no doubt I use my pet. whether im soloing or in a group I almost always use him to pull on the ^ and ^^ mobs, and when sololing I can literally fight two mobs at once, double the exp at the cost of about 50pts of power!!! and they say we have power issues. Also when I'm low on power or just want to be amused, I cast my pet run off a bit, and let him play MT</P> <P>you'd think he would just die quickly, but while he is MTing I can cast infernal pact on him, best part is that he gets the healing proc, and its so awesome see our pet pull off a life tapspell and heal itself.</P> <P>while he is also MTing its fun to play necro for a bit and cast grim/vile coil and draw/siphon strength on the mob, however you have to do this slowly or you will get the aggro (now I know how wizards feel)</P> <P>even better if you are fighting a 3 mob group, you can cast the pet on the first mob, then quickly switch to the second mob, kill it, switch to the 3rd mob, kill it, and then by the time you kill those two the first mob is either already dead or in the "red zone", easy pickings.  This works great when soloing, but also works well in a group  ( though group members always wonderr why you keep switching targets at the start of a fight)</P> <P>I've found out so many useful tricks with my pet, and just like with EQ1, I am once agian proud to be an SK and wouldnt change that for any other class (but weaponsmithing, thats a different story <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</P>

[JoarAddam]

<DIV>Well poop.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess that I'm farming essences tonight... best place I can think to do it is on owlbears.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was on vendor all night last night just trying to sell off my severed oak and glimmering flower and such....   (cos this one guy wanted 20g to turn them into a shield for me and I'm like, shove it in yer rectum d-hole)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so, just for the hell of it I put 10s on my essences....  and someone bought them ALL.   Now I can afford to have a shield made, but I have no pet... heh.</DIV>

[ghosthamm]

you dont need to farm essences man, get the adept for both tainted and just cast it every battle.  I cast it at the begining of every battle just because it debuffs the melee attacks of your target, and i almost always cast my pet every battle depending on what im fighting.  I always always always end up with more way more essences.  at least get the adept upgrade for you pet....omg it rocks!

[vwlsskng]

<P>The problem is that there are a lot of people playing who neither understand their class nor how to maximize their class's potential. I was perusing random Shadowknight profiles on my server (Nektulos) and was horrified to see two Level 30 players still using Shadowblade of Zeal as their main weapon—one fellow had a full suit of pristine forged feyiron armor yet had his SBoZ equipped, so don't tell me he couldn't afford an upgrade.</P> <P>In a word, a lot of people are clueless and don't spend any time researching anything, even when they're aware that they don't know what they're doing. And while I know this is only a game and that I shouldn't get my feathers ruffled, it's that same mentality that they carry over into "real life." And these same people are usually arrogant [Removed for Content], demanding that you give them what they need. It's sickening.</P> <p>Message Edited by vwlssknght on <span class=date_text>04-01-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:33 AM</span>

[Haf]

Level 43 SK I play with always cast his with any Blue ^^ or above, anything lower falls to fast to need it.

[Haf]

Note that is in a group, not idea what he does solo.

[ArsenaI]

<DIV><EM>Quote:</EM></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><EM>Has anyone named theirs?</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>I call mine "Pudding".</EM></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is too funy. my gf and I both play SK's (I am 38, her 39) and she calls hers Puddin' :smileyvery-happy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by ArsenaI on <span class=date_text>04-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:59 AM</span>

[Margen]

<P>ROFL, just call mine the mighty [Removed for Content] <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)</P> <P>Blackoath 27th Troll Shadow Knight</P>

[TheGeneral]

The name "Cocoa Puff of Doom" just sticks with me.  I just upgraded this to adept 3 and must say it is in fact the best DoT we have.  I can put him on blue con mobs in a heroic encounter and he usually kills his mob before I get to it.

[Pero Salm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Milaga wrote:<BR> <DIV>Is everyone using their pet?  Most Shadowknights I have spoken to or grouped with never use their pet.  In fact, I can honestly say I have NEVER seen another Shadowknights pet on Mistmoore.  In fact, in pickup groups, sometimes I'll summon a pet and immediately I'll hear from group members "add", "add", "inc tainted soul".  They had never seen one before either.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is everyone aware that this is one of the most important skills or spells at our disposal?  Maybe I'm preaching to the choir (the eeeeevil choir) but I think most of them don't quite get how important they are.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I bought a pet, hes a squire you could get at lvl 40 for 60 gold at the trainers in north freeport.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I could tell you I dont use him at all.  All he does is just stand there and do nothing.  Waste of useable oxygen, and waste of my money.  I havent seen my pet in two months because hes so useless.</DIV>

[Rylight]

I think by pet he means the ones that actually fight for you, thanks for the advice though, I had no idea it cost 60 gold for a useless squire.

[Morog]

<P>I used my squire for the first time the other night in RoV. I was waiting on the Weavemaster to pop and my friends had to log. I said what the heck and summoned it. It was kinda neat, more than once some people passed through going after the Book of Life and they all stopped to look at it. Something must have used an AE because during one of the fights it unsheathed its sword and charged up to the mobs. It didn't hit anything but it was funny to watch. All in all I don't feel like I wasted 2g on it.</P> <P>But this thread is about our real pet, so I'll talk about the ghost chicken. I call it the chicken of doom. I am glad to have it, I like the screeching sound it makes when it is in a fight, and I use it all the time -  but I just have to admit it isn't something I think a SK would call up. It doesn't seem very evil or terror-inducing hehe. I mean I don't want to sound liek a complainer but I was just hoping for somethign a little more spooky.</P>

[Hooster]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bronto wrote:<BR>Adept3 pet hits for over 300 on specials at level 50, especially if you use despoiling mist on the mob.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>At level 32, I have upgraded my spell to Adept 1, and the pet cons even to me.  He's now level 32, and has been scaling with me as I level.  Just curious, can anyone confirm if the Adept 3 version of the spell creates a pet that is a higher level than you?</P> <P>I've also noticed that the funny things my pile says before he decomposes gets clipped off.  He usually says the first word, and dissapears in a puff of vapor (good thing we don't get smell with EQ2 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[TheGeneral]

My pet is adept 3 in quality and he is still the same level as me with one v.  He hits a lot harder, faster, and last much longer now.

[Stuermch]

<P>Hmm,</P> <P>you must have different pets than me. Mine is just an animated dot and I won't call it a pet :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>Stürmchen</P>

[Axxon]

<P>I use my vicious [Removed for Content] when soloing harder mobs or in a group situation if it calls for it.  Last night we went through D'Morte with a 26 wiz, 30 conjuror, 29 chanter and me - 29 SK.  No healer and through all 14 named red mobs, I only died twice - and it was very close both times.  I cast my vicious [Removed for Content] each time and, based on how close the fights were, I think it definitely helped us.</P> <P>As an old EQLive SK, I really miss the look of my skellie pet.  Sure, he was [Removed for Content] compared to the necro version, but he zoned with me, didn't poof after the battle, and looked a lot more like a minion of evil than my [Removed for Content] does.  That said, I'll take the vicious [Removed for Content] over no pet at all.  Its definitely useful and anyone who NEVER uses it probably needs to be educated on its benefits.  </P>

[ghosthamm]

agreed, good post drak. If you dont use/upgrade it you are missing out big time imo.

[TheGeneral]

Just to give an example, My wife and I were going through one of the solo type dungeons with Bloodlines today (32 Inquisitor and 32 SK).  I would pull a 2 mob encounter of a normal mob grouped with a v or a v mob grouped with two vv.  I always put him on the secondary mob and we concentrated on the hardest one in the group.  90% of the time, the pet had its mob killed before we finished off ours.

[vwlsskng]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Stuermchen wrote:<BR> <P>Hmm,</P> <P>you must have different pets than me. Mine is just an animated dot and I won't call it a pet :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P>Stürmchen<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>You're not doing him any justice. And now his feelings are hurt.</DIV>

[ghosthamm]

/crys for disrespect to the little brown round mound

[Farba]

<DIV>Got my birdy pet a few levels ago, had the adept1 all ready for him (sweet even con / pet).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Had my old one as adept3 and at first he was still doing damage but after a while he became less usefull.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One great thing about the birdy, he stuns mobs, imho this is worth it, even for quick fights <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

[vTenebr]

<span><blockquote><hr>Rylight wrote:I think by pet he means the ones that actually fight for you, thanks for the advice though, I had no idea it cost 60 gold for a useless squire. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It's not 60g.   Who the hell would spend that kind of money on a fun spell?  I think it's 7 or 9g and I've actually found my squire to be kinda useful. I did VERY nice DPS in a fight the other night due to BOTH of my pets.  See.. when AE'd the squire will fight.  I planted him/her (whichever happened to show up when I cast it) on a rock after each AE wave during Darathar.  She'd fight a round, then die.  I'd cast my Tainted Soul.. he'd fight a round with me, then die on the next AE.  I always had both "pets" going. Between them I held my own quite nicely in DPS.. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Nymphetamine]

<DIV>I hate how it goes after one mob dies in a grouped mobs so u hav to recast it again : useless pet</DIV>

[Lofar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nymphetamine wrote:<BR> <DIV>I hate how it goes after one mob dies in a grouped mobs so u hav to recast it again : useless pet</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Just don't think of it as a pet. Think of it as a DOT spell, because really that's what it is.</P> <P> </P>

[ghosthamm]

<DIV>it vanishs after u kill the one it was cast on, in a group mob, cast it on 1 and attack another,,ussually it will attack what u attack. If you save the npc u cast it on for the last kill your pet should last the whole battle.</DIV>

[TheGeneral]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ghosthammer wrote:<BR> <DIV>it vanishs after u kill the one it was cast on, in a group mob, cast it on 1 and attack another,,ussually it will attack what u attack. If you save the npc u cast it on for the last kill your pet should last the whole battle.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This activity actually seems to be completely random.  Sometimes he stays on his own target and sometimes he switches to what you are attacking.  I think this may have to do with mobs that ae, as in if they hit him, they change his aggro.  Not sure, but for the most part he stays on what you cast him on until its dead and then he poofs.  I will say that on rare occasion I have seen him change targets.

[vTenebr]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheGeneral wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ghosthammer wrote: <div>it vanishs after u kill the one it was cast on, in a group mob, cast it on 1 and attack another,,ussually it will attack what u attack. If you save the npc u cast it on for the last kill your pet should last the whole battle.</div> <hr> </blockquote>This activity actually seems to be completely random.  Sometimes he stays on his own target and sometimes he switches to what you are attacking.  I think this may have to do with mobs that ae, as in if they hit him, they change his aggro.  Not sure, but for the most part he stays on what you cast him on until its dead and then he poofs.  I will say that on rare occasion I have seen him change targets. <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes, it's an AE thing.  If a normal fight the pet will stay on whatever you originally sicked it on.  If it's AE'd, however, it will change targets til whatever AE'd is dead... then go back to the original target.</span><div></div>

[far]

<DIV>My simple speculation is that the duration of the pet is set to expire after the target dies or 3 minutes, once in play overever the pet is under normal mob rules, it starts with some aggro on the mob it was cast, however if some other mob does something to move it up on the list it will switch targets... 2 bits o speculation keep the change</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Yokoshima3]

I think our pet should take about 10 tainted essences and act like a REAL pet (similar to our squire,only useful in battle). ever notice how if you say to attk it says Sorry i can not do that < commanding shadowknight's name ><SPAN>? or any other command for that matter..now i dont even get the window...what a DoT...but at least its our best DoT.</SPAN>

[Argaman]

Curious as to what people feel about the Adept 1 bird vs the Adept III bird. Is it that much better to justify upgrading? I use this spell alot and I'm curious as to peoples experiences in damage, hps etc. <div></div>