View Full Version : Mitigation and Avoidance Comparison - How do we stack up?
Dliri
03-23-2005, 07:45 PM
<DIV>Hi, I'm just curious as to what everyone's Mitigation and Avoidance numbers are. How do we compare to each other, and other tank classes?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I believe my numbers were</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 27 SK - 1200+ and 55% unbuffed. With Zarn's Deadly Aura (Knight's Stance Upgrade), those numbers didn't change much, maybe +50 and +1%.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
lbcre
03-24-2005, 12:44 AM
<DIV>lvl 35 with the same spells up and a 100 in agility gave me a 1550 mit and 62.9% avoidance with a kite shield on. As a side note my 37 INQ friend has similar gear but much less agi had a much higher mit but only an avoidance around 55%. My stats have looked low against some other peoples but I haven't seen it affect me. I can solo multiple yellow and even nighbloods that are lvl 40. This may be because these mobs are easy for con or because of our lifetaps. Either way I haven't really sweet it to much.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On a side note...I always suspected our buffs were marginal at best. Since the stat changes I've pretty much confirmed that. At one point yesterday I actually saw a stat go BACKWARDS after I cast one of our avoid/mit buffs. At this point I'm going all offensive buffs and wards only.</DIV>
TheGeneral
03-24-2005, 01:35 AM
I was curious about this myself. My wife is an inquisitor and we have almost identical gear other than I have a Kite shield and she only has an orb. Both of us at level 30 and she had a higher mitigation than I did, completely unbuffed. /boggle
jm212
03-24-2005, 02:16 AM
<DIV>"other than I have a Kite shield and she only has an orb."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do shields increase mitigation or avoidance? Could it be the orb gives a slight amount of mitigation while your shield gives a lot more avoidance?</DIV>
Xiene
03-24-2005, 02:21 AM
<DIV>From what I know mitigations are directly effect by your armor. Add your total armor mitigation together = to your totaly mitigation. Mitigation buffs also effects it. </DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT color=#cc0000>Note: Shield won't give you any mitigation, it is now a shield factor, which is same back in beta (?) i think, which determines the chance you'll block the incoming attack.</FONT></EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Avoidance on the other hand is effected by your shield (block rate (%)), defense skill, parry skill, deflection (which only monk has), their total average.. and then modify with agility *shrug* which only effect your base avoidance. So....break this down into:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Agility + Defense skill : Base avoidance</DIV> <DIV>Parry skill : Parry rate</DIV> <DIV>Shield Factor : Block rate (Use shield skill buff will benefit you using a shield as a higher lvl character)</DIV> <DIV>Deflection : Monk only skill, need some input on this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Ishnar
03-24-2005, 04:39 AM
<DIV>Moorgard said recently that now the avoidance and mitigation numbers are visible it has become evident there is a problem. He said that they will probably changing how the system works the bring them more in line with each other.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So I wouldn't go through too much trouble measuring the difference now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ishnar</DIV>
Alarion1
03-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Would you happen to have a link to that thread handy, Ishnar? I would like to read his comments in context <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>
AironJe
03-24-2005, 08:09 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Alarion1 wrote:<BR>Would you happen to have a link to that thread handy, Ishnar? I would like to read his comments in context <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>HERE U GO <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=13301#M13301" target=_blank>/http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=13301#M13301</A></DIV> <DIV>Moorgaurds response to seeing mit and avoiance on tanks</DIV><p>Message Edited by AironJedi on <span class=date_text>03-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:10 PM</span>
Dliri
03-24-2005, 10:05 PM
<DIV>Thanks for the link. </DIV>
Alarion1
03-25-2005, 07:24 AM
aye indeed. much appreciated! <div></div>
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