57 Page Thread = Horse Nerf...If We Fill 57 Pages Here Can We Get Our Spells Fixed?

[Seolta]

<DIV>Just asking a simple question <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Profe]

We might as well try it! :pJKing, it takes a lot of morons to fill 57 pages with garbage.You are not allowed to play an SK if you are a [Removed for Content], right? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[vwlsskng]

<DIV>Is there seriously a fifty-seven page whine fest regarding Holy and Unholy Steed?</DIV>

[Wurm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vwlssknght wrote:<BR> <DIV>Is there seriously a fifty-seven page whine fest regarding Holy and Unholy Steed?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Sadly yes. In fact there are tons of threads on our silly horses. And if either a SK or a Pally brings up a problem with our classes it always turns into a "Shut up you get a free horse, what more do you want?" thread. </P> <P>I'm happy with the horse nerf... maybe now they will finally get around to fixing all the issues SKs and Pallys have.</P>

[VampirePrince]

Jealousy, now I want to be able to ride my horse in dungeons too since many of the other classes fluff spells work in there *rolls eyes*

[Shadame]

I'm still waiting for them to fix our lifetaps, taunts, harm touch, etc...

[megatra]

<DIV>that was nice of them. for 10%? now the spell isnt even worth the time it takes to cast it. thanks soe. tons. noone is even gonna bother buying a [Removed for Content] horse from the trainer at 20 now. GJ</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so now i have to wait till my guild is at a certain level and save up a heap of money to buy one that ran the same speed as my level 20 one.</DIV>

[Kimkim Team`Zeb]

<DIV>Man they love to beat a class thats already down ..... Formely lvl 50 Shadow Knight .. Now First lvl 50 Comoner on Everfrost WOOOOOT! go sony ... Just get rid of SK rather than make your Customers so [Removed for Content] off... Love how as a fighter we get all the abilities as a guardian and such to use axes etc... pick Crusader some how we get stupied and Revert to 4 differnt wepon choices.. omg thats funny. </DIV>

[boo4y]

<DIV>Well since they are fixiing the horse, I hope we wont get spammed anymore.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-You cannot do that while sitting</DIV> <DIV>-You cannot do that in this form</DIV> <DIV>-You cannot do that the water is to deep....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If that is still there when they change horses....welll that would suck. </DIV> <DIV>I would rather delete the spell then get spammed.</DIV>

[korend]

<DIV>how was this horse thing a problem for anyone?  fix the spam you jackbags</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>fix a SK problem that relates to gameplay</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>how about repairing the timer you screwed up on FD</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Jhaan-Kre]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> megatraum wrote:<BR> <DIV>that was nice of them. for 10%? now the spell isnt even worth the time it takes to cast it. thanks soe. tons. noone is even gonna bother buying a [Removed for Content] horse from the trainer at 20 now. GJ</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so now i have to wait till my guild is at a certain level and save up a heap of money to buy one that ran the same speed as my level 20 one.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> 10% is the same speed as Jboots give.  So on a mount u have jboots, off a mount u have jboots if your've done the heritige quest.  Welcome to my world <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Pheeb]

<blockquote><hr>Wurm wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>vwlssknght wrote:<BR><DIV>Is there seriously a fifty-seven page whine fest regarding Holy and Unholy Steed?</DIV><BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><P>Sadly yes. In fact there are tons of threads on our silly horses. And if either a SK or a Pally brings up a problem with our classes it always turns into a "Shut up you get a free horse, what more do you want?" thread. </P><P>I'm happy with the horse nerf... maybe now they will finally get around to fixing all the issues SKs and Pallys have.</P><hr></blockquote>How can you be happy with a Horse NERF? that is beyond me - that you would not care I could understand - It should have been done MUCH earlier - why? because some people complained...? Why not fixing other more important SK stuffs which are not working? was that such a priority? there was neven any answer from Devs or fixes about people floating above their mounts - I don't but I do care and to me along with fixing spells it has higher priority.

[Aion]

<blockquote><hr>Jhaan-Kreii wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>megatraum wrote:<BR><DIV>that was nice of them. for 10%? now the spell isnt even worth the time it takes to cast it. thanks soe. tons. noone is even gonna bother buying a [Removed for Content] horse from the trainer at 20 now. GJ</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>so now i have to wait till my guild is at a certain level and save up a heap of money to buy one that ran the same speed as my level 20 one.</DIV><BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>10% is the same speed as Jboots give. So on a mount u have jboots, off a mount u have jboots if your've done the heritige quest. Welcome to my world <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>WRONG. You can sprint with jboots. Pathfinding and SoW stack with jboots. You can't sprint with a horse and you cant gain effect from other speed buffs while mounted.

[Seolta]

<DIV>Just to clarify, i'm not really calling for 57 pages, just trying to find some humor out of all this mess, while still illustrating the bigger picture: We need some fixing!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I kinda blew a gasket yesterday when I read about the horse, a kind of "straw that broke the camel's back" type scenario, and I just hope the Devs can simply fix our known issues ASAP so we can all get back to loving the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Wurm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Pheebau wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wurm wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vwlssknght wrote:<BR> <DIV>Is there seriously a fifty-seven page whine fest regarding Holy and Unholy Steed?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Sadly yes. In fact there are tons of threads on our silly horses. And if either a SK or a Pally brings up a problem with our classes it always turns into a "Shut up you get a free horse, what more do you want?" thread. </P> <P>I'm happy with the horse nerf... maybe now they will finally get around to fixing all the issues SKs and Pallys have.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>How can you be happy with a Horse NERF? that is beyond me - that you would not care I could understand - It should have been done MUCH earlier - why? because some people complained...? Why not fixing other more important SK stuffs which are not working? was that such a priority? there was neven any answer from Devs or fixes about people floating above their mounts - I don't but I do care and to me along with fixing spells it has higher priority.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I'm happy because my horse made 0% difference in the reason I became a Paladin and will continue to make 0% difference in how I play my class. I want my fellow knights to stop getting the shaft on all of our broken skills and spell. I have always been vocal in my support of having the Shadowknights fixed. But us Paladins also have alot of broken things that need to be fixed as well. Now that the whiners can finally move on to some other class to be jealous of maybe the devs will finally first give the Shadowknights a huge dose of loving and then with what is left fix us Paladins.<p>Message Edited by Wurm on <span class=date_text>02-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:50 AM</span>

[Uggli]

<DIV>I agree with Wurm.  The horse aspect of the crusaders was trivial at best.   Sucks that they nerfed it for no other reason than it gave other classes an inferority complex and they would just bytch and moan.   It had no effect on game play one way or the other really.   I found my self having to click it off more than not recently.   So it was nerfed to 10%  Big deal,  your still a pally/SK.   Our job is to tank.  Not run around training like a [FaarNerfed!] becuse you got a pretty pony.  Our job is to tank, not to bytch and moan about trivial crap.  Leave that to the casters.</DIV>

[Seolta]

<DIV>Saving time running across huge zones is trivial??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe you don't play very much, but I run around ALOT in this game, if you're any kind of quester you do to. I probably save 5-10min a day, if not more, in RL time by using the SK/Paly horse.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now I have to pay 5pp to get that time back. Imagine that...SoE SELLING me my time spent BACK to me. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And here I thought they were against the selling of "time spent" on the characters in their games <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hardly trivial.</DIV>

[Wink]

<DIV>Well lets go for 57 pages then...Fix My Shadownight Spells!!! </DIV>

[Uggli]

<DIV>Yes saving YOU time is trivial to the game.  If it's that important to you, invest some minor coin into good drink, and start sprinting and [FaarNerfed!] guess what?  Your actually faster than your horse was you might actually be 5-10 min faster!   [FaarNerfed!] nerf~</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It has no impact on the game.  No impact on the game = trivial to the game.   Personal impact is a non-issue and should never be considered.</DIV>

[Kimkim Team`Zeb]

<DIV>The FD timer isnt bugged or broken ... its classic EQ they nerf one part of a spell and Ninja nerf something else about it without telling you it will happen.... Same thing happend to are evac went from 15 mins to 30 mins there was no post on it either....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>lvl 50 sk 41provionser of EF</DIV>

[Justicar333]

<DIV>Personally I feel that nerfing our horse was detrimental to Shadow Knights, as well as our cousins the Paladins.  The annoyance of that grows to anger when it's considered how many legitimate problems our class has, yet SOE takes time out to nerf us in reply to a bunch of [FaarNerfed!]ers.  The fixing of our horses has affected my gameplay negativly.  Having it hurt no one.  </DIV>

[Seolta]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Uggliey wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yes saving YOU time is trivial to the game.  If it's that important to you, invest some minor coin into good drink, and start sprinting and [FaarNerfed!] guess what?  Your actually faster than your horse was you might actually be 5-10 min faster!   [FaarNerfed!] nerf~</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It has no impact on the game.  No impact on the game = trivial to the game.   Personal impact is a non-issue and should never be considered.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Dude...Lvl50 Drink is 1g a pop. Fine for fighting but i'm not gonna waste it on running around. And um...for that matter why bother with any permanent item enhancement when you can go buy player made totems to do the job? Oh, yeah, *convenience* and *cost over time*! Stop dishing out your Voodoo Economics! It would be cheaper in the long run(no pun intended) to buy a horse.</P> <P>PERSONAL IMPACT! Too bad i'm not the only one.</P>

[Rha]

I didnt reach level 20 but I'm with u ,this cant be that the palas have more effective spell then us SK's ,nice one SoE thats the way to hold customers ,don't care about minority groups in game , I want an adventure with well balanced sub classes ,this cant be a prob with SoE's etar and its game designer team huge enough I think , and by the way make more interesting quests and not kill 10 enemies of that sort and u recieve something good , I want quests with story within

[Kimkim Team`Zeb]

<DIV>Everyone just make wizards now ... since they are getting fixed.. or keep [FaarNerfed!]ing like they did on the Wiz website, and we might just get somewhere.</DIV>