Arent Shadowkinghts supposed to be EVIL?

[Archanum]

<DIV>It seems to be that the really cut corners in alot of areas of the game. I have played SWG since its inception (beta) and am not going to kill SOE, because they are trying in SWG to listen to the players, BUT, there are some things to me which I cant ever understand how it made it into the game, it just doesnt fit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The cute little brown pony is perfect for a paladin, our unholy steed should look like those horses in LOTR that the undead kings were riding, Huge, black, with red flaming eyes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(MAYBE as we level the horse changes??? It gets evil over time?))</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our class armor is gold...I just laughed out loud when I got my cold forged gloves. Again, great for the paladin sub-class, not for a SK. It should be darker in color, blood red, black, etc you get the idea.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our class sword is silver, which is ok, but maybe add some flames to it or something.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Besides the fact that unlike the paladin class, a SK should NOT have so many skills geared towards group members, a SK would be more self reliant, yet too many of my higher skills are to assist a group member.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am not saying since I am a SK, we should be Uber, not at all, and most of my complaints are simple GRAPHICS fixes. The character looks like a good guy, not an evil one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When you want to roleplay, it throws you off a bit to be this super evil thing riding a brown pony wearing gold armor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I did like how they changed the spell graphics around your feet when you cast to be that black stuff with skulls etc, thats what I am talking about, very cool grapgic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Macki]

<DIV>cold hammered is like a dark purple, if you see gold, time to buy a new monitor..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>also we are level what, 20-25 on average right now, give it time..</DIV>

[dohboi]

<DIV>WE ARE THE DIET COKE OF EEEVIL "JUST ONE CALORIE ,NOT EVIL ENOUGH"!!!!!</DIV>

[Drog]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mackius wrote:<BR> <DIV>cold hammered is like a dark purple, if you see gold, time to buy a new monitor..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>also we are level what, 20-25 on average right now, give it time..</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Yes its purple but its also the same armor of the Qeynos guard...

[Bellic]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Archanum wrote:<BR> <DIV>It seems to be that the really cut corners in alot of areas of the game. I have played SWG since its inception (beta) and am not going to kill SOE, because they are trying in SWG to listen to the players, BUT, there are some things to me which I cant ever understand how it made it into the game, it just doesnt fit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The cute little brown pony is perfect for a paladin, our unholy steed should look like those horses in LOTR that the undead kings were riding, Huge, black, with red flaming eyes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(MAYBE as we level the horse changes??? It gets evil over time?))</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our class armor is gold...I just laughed out loud when I got my cold forged gloves. Again, great for the paladin sub-class, not for a SK. It should be darker in color, blood red, black, etc you get the idea.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our class sword is silver, which is ok, but maybe add some flames to it or something.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Besides the fact that unlike the paladin class, a SK should NOT have so many skills geared towards group members, a SK would be more self reliant, yet too many of my higher skills are to assist a group member.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am not saying since I am a SK, we should be Uber, not at all, and most of my complaints are simple GRAPHICS fixes. The character looks like a good guy, not an evil one.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When you want to roleplay, it throws you off a bit to be this super evil thing riding a brown pony wearing gold armor.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I did like how they changed the spell graphics around your feet when you cast to be that black stuff with skulls etc, thats what I am talking about, very cool grapgic.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Such matter have been beaten down over and over again.. the game is less than a month old and you want all the bells and whistles, one guy in another post put it very well. We are level 20 crusaders but lvl 2 or 4 or what ever Shadow Knights. Good things come to those that wait, not those that start a new post post about something so obvious. Drop it go level. Find out something new. Make your character what you want it to be. Granted these are all very valid issues but for the love of all things evil WE KNOW. <BR>

[Drax]

<DIV>I'm not even going to bother worrying about it until a Shadowknight hits between 40-50. It's highly possible the horse becomes more sporting later on. We might even be able to quest for an upgrade, we simply don't know yet. Right now its a nice thing to have as its speed makes a world of difference.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sure, I'm not nascar and I'm not crossing the Commonlands in 3 seconds flat, but I am going to outrun anyone on foot without wasting an inch of my power while they use sprint to keep up (and fail, since I'll keep jogging along when they run out of power). I outrun most mobs too without worrying about sprint.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Besides, when they fix our forms (which I'm sure they will) I'll look pretty evil sitting atop my pony (heck, we'd evil even sitting atop a giant duck).</DIV>

[Messiah6]

<DIV>You get a free horse a level 20.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lets review:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 20   =  free horse.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am not complaining I think it is great that SK and Pallys get a free horse at level 20.  </DIV> <DIV>But I have to laugh a little laugh when people complain about there free horse that they get at level 20.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wait what was that, your free horse at level 20!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By the way don't repley saying that you have to pay 20s or what every it is so it is not free,  It is a FREE horse at LEVEL 20.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[cocoa_boy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Messiah6 wrote:<BR> <DIV>You get a free horse a level 20.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lets review:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 20   =  free horse.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am not complaining I think it is great that SK and Pallys get a free horse at level 20.  </DIV> <DIV>But I have to laugh a little laugh when people complain about there free horse that they get at level 20.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wait what was that, your free horse at level 20!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By the way don't repley saying that you have to pay 20s or what every it is so it is not free,  It is a FREE horse at LEVEL 20.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I didn't get a free horse...all i got was this lousy T-shirt:</P> <P>"man, its good bein' evil"</P>

[Reikets]

<DIV>^ lol.</DIV>

[Anash]

<DIV>Yeah the horse is just a little perk, better horses are to be purchased, If we were given a cool looking horse at 20 people would of thrown fits, some classes get some completely useless perks at 20 so be happy we get horses that are faster than pathfinding and pre order jboots.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We do really need some updated spell graphics badly, I would like to see more variety, all the graphics are reused between the classes and we have a few that are just different colored skulls, last patch fixed a ton of spells and made some graphics for a few but still need more variety, we should all feedback this and hopefully get it changed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Profe]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Archanum wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When you want to roleplay, it throws you off a bit to be this super evil thing riding a brown pony wearing gold armor.<BR> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry to burst your bubble, but despite being and mmoRPG .. there is hardly any roleplaying going on. (even on the roleplay servers, people just thought they would be lower population)</DIV> <DIV>Brown is neutral, it's not really a color that seems significantly good or evil.</DIV> <DIV>Cold hammered is pretty much black, so please .. whatever you are smoking, pass it around.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Primaux_Optimaus]

Umm.. Free means cost = 0 .. I paid for mine. So the argument of a free horse is completely thrown out. We don't get FREE horses.Opti Maxximaus

[vwlsskng]

<DIV>We should give it time, but the class has been stripped of most of its feel, especially when comparing it to the SK of EQ1.</DIV>

[priwog]

<DIV>think most missing point as normal, its nothing to do with being free horse , but the sk horse should not look like a paladins horse, our armour should also be different when your sat next to a paladin you look like two paladins. Horses you pay for are no different so the line about its free is nonstarter since even if you pay a plat you still get a paladin looking horse. ill have to check my cold gloves since only part of armour i have so far but i thought it was gold to look at but its only the gloves not main part. Problem is everyone knows you can have a horse that looks like what people want since another class can cast a spell while mounted and the horse changes to ghost horse which is far more suited to a shadow, either give sk spell to do same or make default horse ghost type.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[vwlsskng]

<DIV>The point is that there are too many bugs to be worrying over aesthetics.</DIV>

[vwlsskng]

<DIV>My major complaint with our horse can be summed up in three lines:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>You cannot do that while sitting.</DIV></DIV> <DIV>You cannot do that, the water is too deep.</DIV> <DIV>You cannot do that while in this form.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd rather see that paid attention to by the devs rather than the fact that its brown instead of black. Wouldn't you?</DIV>

[Golok]

<DIV>Remember though that the speed the horse currently runs is a bug, it wasnt supposed to be as fast as it is. Soe stated this and said they dont plan on fixing it, they will let it be. The horse orginally was supposed to be a purely aesthetic feature. So  remember, when you say that we get a free horse at lvl 20 and that because it is fast looks dont matter, that was not intentional. It was supposed to be a brown steed, same speed as normal run speed, and be called an unholy steed. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This game is new, i think what is going on atm is balancing. After everything is balanced, im sure they will add more flare to the game. Everyone is upset that all the armor looks the same, spells look the same, all items at any given lvl tier are all basically the same, but remember, that you gotta have a strong foundation before you can think about releasing more content. Remember, with new expanions (which they have stated, will be HUGE) new items and models are released. So new items for each lvl will come out. Rare items arent in the game currently, but im sure they will add them. Im sure there will be some cool new models. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>