[Bugs]Tradeskill Signature Quest finale "The Final Blow"

[Domino]

Hey folks!<br /> <br />If all goes well with the builds tonight, you should get the last part of the tradeskill signature quest on beta tomorrow, 1 November (completion of which will grant your tradeskill beta testing achievement, not to mention other goodies). Assuming you've completed the other prerequisite quests, you'll be able to pick it up from Brytthel in Nye'Caelona.<br /> <br />Since the other general bugs thread is getting a bit lengthy, figured I'd start a new thread specifically for this big endline. Sorry for the delay getting it to beta, but hopefully you can see why it took a little time and hope you enjoy it! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br />Prerequisites: You will need to have completed "Stranger Friends" and "Choose the Slug Life" from this expansion, and you will also need to have your earring of the solstice and have completed "Proof of the Pudding". Oliver the beta buffer (in Isle of Mara or Maldura) should be able to help you with those if you aren't on a copied character that has them.<br /> <br />You may also find one particular step a bit slow if you are under adventure level 5, but I think it would be almost impossible for even the most focused character to be under adventure level 5 just from discovery XP by the time they get to this quest. However, if you do find any problems with low adventure level, let me know of course! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br />There is also a timed step which I think is currently a little too easy, so feedback is welcome on what an appropriately challenging-but-not-impossible length of time would be.

[Domino]

<ul><li>Some Legend of Dalnir book pages are spawning inside objects, this shouldn't stop anyone from completing the books but it's obviously annoying!</li><li>Researcher Thelzik Ku'Rok seems to not want to talk to you if you have TOO MUCH faction with Bathezid's Watch. Getting below 0 will work around this for today (sarnak massacre time!) until this is fixed.</li></ul>

[ZUES]

Wow so many hours of old quests as prereqs. I've changed mains since those were current content. I hope the reward is worth the effort.

[Shmogre]

Typo - getting Brytthel's new quest, "consulation" should be "consultation":<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/ECEinqv.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br />(and squee!! new quests!! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /> )

[Shmogre]

(Deleted...I saw what Domino said above about the faction. I'm at +22,775, getting below zero will take a while. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> )

[Garten]

After being super helpful and friendly with giving me my updates to The Final Blow, talking to Researcher Thelzik Ku'Rok (while still on The Final Blow) results in a very surly "Why should we trust you, outsider? We have enough problems of our own here to provide help to strangers."<br /> <br />Apparently he suddenly forgot how much he loves me now that I grabbed the update from him :/

[Darln]

This is so sad. I worked so hard back in the day to get 50k ally with Bathezoid, Dalnir, and Rillis. Now I have to lower Bathezoid to a 0?

[Niami DenMother]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Darln"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Darln said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386370#post-6386370" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">This is so sad. I worked so hard back in the day to get 50k ally with Bathezoid, Dalnir, and Rillis. Now I have to lower Bathezoid to a 0?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />To reword Domino's post above, it is a bug, and if you want to progress before the bug fix is in, you get to kill sarnaks. Otherwise, wait for the fix to go in. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Shmogre]

And at least it's only beta, so no real faction is being lost. Can you imagine if we had to lower it on live?? <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Darln]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386371#post-6386371" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">To reword Domino's post above, it is a bug, and if you want to progress before the bug fix is in, you get to kill sarnaks. Otherwise, wait for the fix to go in. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />I'm waiting .. I'm waiting. At the moment I can't even see the pages either. I've been up all night waiting for the update to go in .. so it's big time nap time for this old woman. Again thank you Domino for all your hard work. You give us crafters a shiny beam of hope that there is still a need for us in this game!

[Shmogre]

Bug: I turned in the collection and got another copy of the book "The Art of Killing Iksar" (the first copy was given to me by Researcher Thelzik), and no recipe (a few others said they got the recipe when turning in the collection).

[Leonitas]

no valid crafting stations. the 3 forges by baron dalnir...none are clicky...tried talking to him about it...VERY nice touch, Domino <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" /> ....highly recommend people haggle the baron dalnir after the initial dialogue <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" /> <br /> <br />btw, i disco'd most of the ingredients, and the recipe. everything is there. all looks in order. just no valid forge.

[Shmogre]

Floating page:<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/LYOVFsT.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Niami DenMother]

The first page to the collection has no page number:<br />"The Legend of Dalnir - Page "

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386397#post-6386397" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">The first page to the collection has no page number:<br />"The Legend of Dalnir - Page "</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Same here:<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Nq1VTIp.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br />UPDATE: The corresponding page also has no number:<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/QGwy3PY.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Niami DenMother]

Handed in the completed collection for "The Legend of Dalnir", got a second copy of the book, no recipe. This was on my woodworker, Foiwom. (Yes, I tried reading the book, etc., and still have no recipe.) <br /> <br />Edit: Since folks in chat were trying to find some common themes: Good woodworker, Halas resident

[Darln]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386395#post-6386395" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Floating page:<br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/LYOVFsT.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />I didn't see any of those pages! Could it possibly be because I used the bell from the guild hall rather than go thru the collapsed tunnel?

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386400#post-6386400" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Handed in the completed collection for "The Legend of Dalnir", got a second copy of the book, no recipe. This was on my woodworker, Foiwom. (Yes, I tried reading the book, etc., and still have no recipe.)<br /> <br />Edit: Since folks in chat were trying to find some common themes: Good woodworker, Halas resident</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Was just editing my earlier post about this...more data:<br /><br />Guildmate: Good, turned in collection in Halas - got recipe<br />My toon 1: Evil, turned in collection in Freeport - two books, no recipe<br />My toon 2: Good, turned in collection in Halas - got recipe

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Darln"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Darln said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386402#post-6386402" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I didn't see any of those pages! Could it possibly be because I used the bell from the guild hall rather than go thru the collapsed tunnel?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Do you have the quest "The Final Blow" and have you talked to the Researcher in Bathezid's Watch? Domino spawned a bunch of pages for us in the area there, so you should be seeing them. (If you don't have the quest, you'll need the prereqs that Domino listed at the top of this thread, and if your Bathezid's Watch faction is above zero, you'll need to talk to the GM standing near the researcher to have it lowered for now (if they are still there).)

[Eddard]

Good, turned in collection in Halas - got recipe

[Elowith]

Struggled, knocking people every which way to complete the book collection, got the book and no quest update. Please say it's bugged and somehow I will be able to progress quest. Tuned in in guild hall, had already done proof of pudding, am sage.<br /> <br />As an update, deleted the quest and restarted (not thinking about the collection), was able to get back to same spot - where npc still wants me to get the book.

[Niami DenMother]

Incense dispenser has a stray "Beastlord" tag in addition to the artisan tags

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Leonitas"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Leonitas said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386418#post-6386418" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Cloak is amazing, both in stats and appearance, final quests were intense and amazing. Obvious question though....will cloaks eventually be changed to include the purple war rune slot? Will they be infuseable? Reforgeable? thus far it would appear no to all 3, it would clearly be an upgrade over what i have on live/tot...idk how many will wanna give up a war rune though. Would be amazing if we could do all 3 of the above. Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Domino, for an amazing tradeskill sig line! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Pics please.

[Gigglezzz]

Yes Domino, you outdid yourself on this signature line. It was truly amazing. It probably will go down as the best tradeskill questline to date in my opinion!

[Garten]

(EDIT: I missed the comment above mine about purple slots... I can read...)

[Splater]

Very nice timeline ghosts in Crypt were a bit of a pain same as trying to find recipie in Spire. Very nice reward but shouldn't the cloak have a purple adornment slot?

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Leonitas"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Leonitas said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386418#post-6386418" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Cloak is amazing, both in stats and appearance, final quests were intense and amazing. Obvious question though....will cloaks eventually be changed to include the purple war rune slot?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Caith says yes, the lack was an oversight. We'll fix that!

[Shmogre]

Thank you much, Domino...for the epic timeline, the awesome story (love how it meshed with the adventure line), the sweet rewards, and for the patience and help and fixes. This is definitely one of my favorite series and storylines.

[Elowith]

Time Is Short - no timer is shown on the 3rd relic. Also, the time allowed is really too short, not enough time to craft and get out alive.

[Niami DenMother]

Time is Short:<br />The step to empower the relic of Pingyuan Diqu has no visible timer.

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Elowith"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Elowith said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386462#post-6386462" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Time Is Short - no timer is shown on the 3rd relic. Also, the time allowed is really too short, not enough time to craft and get out alive.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Yah, very tight time windows...I'm going to have to pop a Sabertooth totem next time, I think. :^) I managed to make it out okay on the third one, but the fourth one killed me just as I passed the door to leave the area...weirdly, they were still non-aggro when they bonked me into oblivion.

[Darln]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386422#post-6386422" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">FYI to avoid confusion, you get DIFFERENT books from the researcher depending on your archetype. Each book has different pages. So you won't necessarily see the same pages that other classes do ... and also you're not competing for them with everyone, just with your own archetype.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Thanks Domino. I just felt that since I couldn't see them that maybe something was up with either my computer or the way I got to the zone. I'll still wait until tomorrow to return the quest line only because I don't want (yes I know it's just beta) to dump my faction .. LoL. Just call me crazy.

[Shmogre]

An appearance/environment bug (I've had it happen three times over two toons) - When breaking the wall in the Crypt, a square bit is left floating:<br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/2I5LwDk.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Leonitas]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Elowith"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Elowith said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386462#post-6386462" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Time Is Short - no timer is shown on the 3rd relic. Also, the time allowed is really too short, not enough time to craft and get out alive.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />time is short is the point? if we had all day it might be named "Take your time"? ...seriously though, i found it intense but very doable. I had no issues with the time given, whatsoever. had time to spare, even on the first one where i dilly dallied around and didnt realize it was timing me already. Please no nerfs or easymodes...i found this both challenging and exciting, in fact much of the crafting line was! i've never died so much whilst crafting...and yet enjoyed it somehow. Please folks, i beg of you, hunker down with your thinking caps on, meet these challenges, and prove just how crafty you are! If myself and many others completed it without major issues, you can too! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Shmogre]

Appearance/environment bug - In the Workshop, the slime in the background across from the first platform (above the slime area) clips in front of the floating Kly acolyte (second pic should show the location a bit better):<br /><br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/wkk6QeC.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/GMmyzJ7.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Shmogre]

Hint/help for my incense-throwing peeps: Turn on the distance to target if you don't have it already...Options, User Interface, Name and Chat Bubble, "Show Distance to Target" (if will now show the distance above the target name in your UI). :^)<br /><br />(Disclaimer: I use the default UI, can't speak for third-party UIs.)

[Winddragon]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Leonitas"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Leonitas said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386488#post-6386488" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">time is short is the point? if we had all day it might be named "Take your time"? ...seriously though, i found it intense but very doable. I had no issues with the time given, whatsoever. had time to spare, even on the first one where i dilly dallied around and didnt realize it was timing me already. Please no nerfs or easymodes...i found this both challenging and exciting, in fact much of the crafting line was! i've never died so much whilst crafting...and yet enjoyed it somehow. Please folks, i beg of you, hunker down with your thinking caps on, meet these challenges, and prove just how crafty you are! If myself and many others completed it without major issues, you can too! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I feel like 5-10 more seconds should be added for the 3rd and 4th one since the timer starts before you reach the statues, and might cause some problems for slower players.

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Winddragon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Winddragon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386504#post-6386504" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I feel like 5-10 more seconds should be added for the 3rd and 4th one since the timer starts before you reach the statues, and might cause some problems for slower players.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>The Earring of Solstice gives a good run speed buff, which makes a big difference. Also, if you run in and have to run back out, you'll want to wait out the timer before you go back in (that's what killed me on the fourth relic, I think). I'm on my slowest toon and able to make it, so hopefully the Earring buff will help others.

[Eddard]

My 2 cents. Timers were fine (once I found the sacred incense doh!). Had no problem crafting the item in time and having time to spare and crafters can always use potions of progress for the 10 minutes to do the quest or hit a potion of innovation if needed or even sprint, but I didn't find it hard at all. Very, very well done and rewarding line - thank you much!

[Eddard]

Two quick questions. What did we need the Earring of the Solstice for as a pre-requisite? (I had it done long ago and did the TS line but can't remember why I needed it on the last quest).<br /> <br />Will the new cloaks be infusable? <br /> <br />Thank you

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Eddard"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Eddard said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386521#post-6386521" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Two quick questions. What did we need the Earring of the Solstice for as a pre-requisite? (I had it done long ago and did the TS line but can't remember why I needed it on the last quest).</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Proof of the Pudding (and the Earring you got from it) helped you get the Bathezid faction you needed to be non-KOS up there. It also gave you some techniques that came in handy during this questline (<cough>bixies<cough>), and the run speed buff you get from the Earring helps during the final Spire bit, another nice bonus.<br /><br />Plus story-wise, it established you as a crafter of some reknown, so the Queen and Brytthel were more likely to trust and rely on you.

[Quillyne]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386416#post-6386416" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">The forges seem intermittently uncooperative. If you catch me online (Domino) I can unstick them, though I'll be on and off intermittently while fixing things.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Woodworkers, tailors, and sages are not correctly being rewarded the recipe from the collection. This will be fixed tomorrow, again if you catch me online I can give it to you also. I'll try to add this to the beta buffer also so that if you already turned in the collection but didn't get the recipe, he'll help you (as of tomorrow).</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Please add armorer. I got the book, but not the recipes.<br /> <br />Otherwise, best...tradeskill...quest line...EVERS! <3

[Xianthia]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Quillyne"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Quillyne said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386528#post-6386528" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Please add armorer. I got the book, but not the recipes.<br /> <br />Otherwise, best...tradeskill...quest line...EVERS! <3</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />My armorer got book and recipe. Completed the quest line on her.

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386524#post-6386524" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Proof of the Pudding (and the Earring you got from it) helped you get the Bathezid faction you needed to be non-KOS up there. It also gave you some techniques that came in handy during this questline (<cough>bixies<cough>), and the run speed buff you get from the Earring helps during the final Spire bit, another nice bonus.<br /> <br />Plus story-wise, it established you as a crafter of some reknown, so the Queen and Brytthel were more likely to trust and rely on you.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Yup, this. (1) the bathezid's watch sarnak will not trust you unless you've completed this quest - why would they help a stranger?<br />(2) the collection pages, like all tradeskill collections, can't be seen unless you have the Earring of the Solstice; and<br />(3) this is a big quest with some VERY nice rewards which is intended to require quite a significant effort, so game design wise we want it to actually require some time investment, which is why it does require prior completion of the original epic and the ToT signature quest; and<br />(3) although we've called it a signature quest, this is really a tradeskill epic upgrade - Brytthel gives you an upgraded class cloak at the end, which doesn't make much sense story-wise if you don't have the original cloak to start with <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br />I hope everyone noticed how their original epic cloak appearances have been updated and made even more awesome with thanks to Gnobrin's magic skills! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Domino]

Also: all the bugs reported to this point in the thread (except the art bug about ghosts in front of platforms, which I'm not sure I can do anything about) should be fixed in tomorrow's beta update.

[Cloudrat]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Leonitas"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Leonitas said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386488#post-6386488" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">time is short is the point? if we had all day it might be named "Take your time"? ...seriously though, i found it intense but very doable. I had no issues with the time given, whatsoever. had time to spare, even on the first one where i dilly dallied around and didnt realize it was timing me already. Please no nerfs or easymodes...i found this both challenging and exciting, in fact much of the crafting line was! i've never died so much whilst crafting...and yet enjoyed it somehow. Please folks, i beg of you, hunker down with your thinking caps on, meet these challenges, and prove just how crafty you are! If myself and many others completed it without major issues, you can too! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Haven't done it yet and I can tell from this response the title must be appropriate.<br />I am glad you want to start telling people they are scrubs before they even try<img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> Yes, dying and being one shotted on a regular basis has always been my favorite part of crafting.

[Niami DenMother]

Folks will need to remember to use "Singular Focus" (grab it from your adventuring class trainer if you don't have it already bought and scribed) in the Dalnir's tradeskill instance. I'm a slow learner and have been killed by the bugs behind the destroyable walls twice now due to AE auto deciding to fire off when I am destroying the vase. :O

[Leonitas]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386604#post-6386604" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Folks will need to remember to use "Singular Focus" (grab it from your adventuring class trainer if you don't have it already bought and scribed) in the Dalnir's tradeskill instance. I'm a slow learner and have been killed by the bugs behind the destroyable walls twice now due to AE auto deciding to fire off when I am destroying the vase. :O</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />That's a great tip, Niami, i remember thinking, whilst attacking the walls, as an aoe-crazy zerker: "careful with attacks..this is the crafting version, don't wanna aoe and charge in Leeeroy style".

[Rainmare]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Cloudrat"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Cloudrat said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386561#post-6386561" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Haven't done it yet and I can tell from this response the title must be appropriate.<br />I am glad you want to start telling people they are scrubs before they even try<img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> Yes, dying and being one shotted on a regular basis has always been my favorite part of crafting.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>with this particular quest, and the deal with Dalnir, it was more about patience and timing. it does give you plenty of time to run in, craft the item, and get out. it's just a tight window on the last two. I died 1 time, on the last one, and even then I almost got completely out. if I'd actually used the rs buff from the earring of the solstice, I'd probably have made it.<br /> <br />the dalnir I died a few times mostly from getting too close to the stationary spirits before dropping the incense.

[Cloudrat]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Rainmare"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Rainmare said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386626#post-6386626" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">with this particular quest, and the deal with Dalnir, it was more about patience and timing. it does give you plenty of time to run in, craft the item, and get out. it's just a tight window on the last two. I died 1 time, on the last one, and even then I almost got completely out. if I'd actually used the rs buff from the earring of the solstice, I'd probably have made it.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />the dalnir I died a few times mostly from getting too close to the stationary spirits before dropping the incense.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />I died 7 times falling in the river fishing up goos for the key<img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Shmogre]

Realized I forgot the TS classes of the toons I mentioned above:<br /><br />Guildmate: jeweler, good, turned in collection in Halas - got mummy illusion recipe<br />My toon 1: sage, evil, turned in collection in Freeport - two books, no recipe<br />My toon 2: carpenter, good, turned in collection in Halas - got incense dispenser recipe

[Darln]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386404#post-6386404" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Do you have the quest "The Final Blow" and have you talked to the Researcher in Bathezid's Watch? Domino spawned a bunch of pages for us in the area there, so you should be seeing them. (If you don't have the quest, you'll need the prereqs that Domino listed at the top of this thread, and if your Bathezid's Watch faction is above zero, you'll need to talk to the GM standing near the researcher to have it lowered for now (if they are still there).)</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Yes, have all the prereqs with the exception of the Bathezoid faction which is at 49k now. Have the quest, no problem there. Just can't see the pages now. I give up for the day .. LOL. Need a nap. Thanks for the help!

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Darln"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Darln said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386411#post-6386411" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Yes, have all the prereqs with the exception of the Bathezoid faction which is at 49k now. Have the quest, no problem there. Just can't see the pages now. I give up for the day .. LOL. Need a nap. Thanks for the help!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>No problem...it's the faction that's hurting you right now. Domino said that bug should be fixed tomorrow, or with luck, there'll be a GM in the area to knock it down for you.<br /><br />Happy napping!! :^D

[Domino]

The forges seem intermittently uncooperative. I'm told if you stand close to the forge and open your recipe book directly, this is a work around until the forges are properly fixed.<br /> <br />Woodworkers, tailors, and sages are not correctly being rewarded the recipe from the collection. This will be fixed tomorrow, again if you catch me online I can give it to you also. I'll try to add this to the beta buffer also so that if you already turned in the collection but didn't get the recipe, he'll help you (as of tomorrow).

[Leonitas]

Cloak is amazing, both in stats and appearance, final quests were intense and amazing. Obvious question though....will cloaks eventually be changed to include the purple war rune slot? Will they be infuseable? Reforgeable? thus far it would appear no to all 3, it would clearly be an upgrade over what i have on live/tot...idk how many will wanna give up a war rune though. Would be amazing if we could do all 3 of the above. Just my 2 cents. Thanks, Domino, for an amazing tradeskill sig line! <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Darln"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Darln said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386402#post-6386402" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I didn't see any of those pages! Could it possibly be because I used the bell from the guild hall rather than go thru the collapsed tunnel?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>FYI to avoid confusion, you get DIFFERENT books from the researcher depending on your archetype. Each book has different pages. So you won't necessarily see the same pages that other classes do ... and also you're not competing for them with everyone, just with your own archetype.

[Ellimist]

No issues with the time. I did it on a level 100 adventurer though. Though I did die because I stopped to reply in general at one point. Also you don't have to run out you can just use an escape if you want.<br /> <br />The cloak is cool. For those asking if it can be infused I doubt it because the stats are from a spell thingie not from normal green and blue stats. I just tried it in the deity windows and you can't actually drop it in.<br /> <br />The quest line was definitely the best TS one yet. Rewards are good too. Much better than the adventure ones actually.

[Starcloud]

The Final Blow :<br /> <br />I started the quest today before the fix and that bug was familiar. I log back in the game after the fix and this time the update was done. Main problem is now I have the book ..found page 3 and 11, but the ground spawns I cant see them. I have all the requirements for the quest. I relogged and nothing still, deleted the quest, no pages for me. I recieved a second book ( first book was in bag even after deleting the quest ), so I deleted the first one. The second book also show I have page 3 and 11 picked up which I did not do after I recieved the quest.<br /> <br />People showed me pages and jumped on top of them right infront of me .. funny to see them jump, but I simply can not see the pages.<br /> <br />I went to Oliver the beta buffer on Mara and altho I did not had the pages he updated my quest and gave me a recipie.<br /> <br />Greetings, Starcloud

[Chiffon]

On the step "I need to find enough information to help me create a recipe... " I am a woodworker and was able to find pages 3 and 11, but there isn't anything else clickable for me to locate any additional pages.

[Taiyla]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chiffon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chiffon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386750#post-6386750" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">On the step "I need to find enough information to help me create a recipe... " I am a woodworker and was able to find pages 3 and 11, but there isn't anything else clickable for me to locate any additional pages.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Same here.... Woodworker with page 3 and 11 only. Can see others picking up stuff that I can't see. Guess they don't like woodworkers <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" />

[Chiffon]

In order to progress my quest I had to talk to Oliver the beta buffer in Mara <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" />

[Neolia]

This Tradeskill Signature is one of the best we ever done! It's funny, it's reasonable challenge, it has 2 WOW rewards at the end (both cloak and mount are amazing both on stats and appareance!!!).<br /> <br />my 2c for anyone still have to do the entire stuff: dont' be silly like me and pay really attention on almost all the dialogues.<br />first: cause there are some really hylarious <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt="Tongue" /><br />second: as I realize after (my entirely fault!), if you don't pay attention on what Npcs says to you in the first place, you may go lost at certain points. All you need to know is in chat not on journal (at least for the crypt and spire steps)<br /> <br />Thank you, Domino! thanks for all the work and the patiente and the presence!<br />I, like almost all the crafters on Norrath, missed you so much!

[Starcloud]

Forges are still bugged in Baron's Workshop ( tradeskill )

[Taiyla]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chiffon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chiffon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386772#post-6386772" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">In order to progress my quest I had to talk to Oliver the beta buffer in Mara <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Yeah I went to Oliver and updated the quest. Got a recipe for the incense dispenser but no other recipes. I assume it's like Proof of the Pudding and requires other crafters to make the other items needed for the quest. I found the other pieces on the broker so I'm good to go at this point.

[Anatha]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386403#post-6386403" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Was just editing my earlier post about this...more data:<br /> <br />Guildmate: Good, turned in collection in Halas - got recipe<br />My toon 1: Evil, turned in collection in Freeport - two books, no recipe<br />My toon 2: Good, turned in collection in Halas - got recipe</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Well, I didn't see this until it was too late. I got all the pages for what I needed and ported back to my guild hall to turn them in. Guess I will have to delete and start over!

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Taiyla"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Taiyla said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386758#post-6386758" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Same here.... Woodworker with page 3 and 11 only. Can see others picking up stuff that I can't see. Guess they don't like woodworkers <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Nooo, we love woodworkers! But for some reason, the pages for the Dalnir book (which only woodworkers, carpenters, and provisioners see) don't seem to be spawning at all this morning. People who ARE seeing pages are probably other classes collecting other books. Haven't been able to figure out why yet, but I'll continue looking. In the mean time you can bypass this step by talking to the beta buffer as others have noted. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" />

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anatha"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anatha said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386783#post-6386783" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Well, I didn't see this until it was too late. I got all the pages for what I needed and ported back to my guild hall to turn them in. Guess I will have to delete and start over!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>There was a fix put in for the recipes this morning, so hopefully it's working right now. If it's too late, Domino added the recipe book to Oliver (the beta buffer in Mara and Maldura) so you wouldn't have to be stuck on that part of the quest (deleting won't work since it's a collection...once you complete a collection, it can't be redone (I remembered that the hard way yesterday <doh>)).

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anatha"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anatha said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386783#post-6386783" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Well, I didn't see this until it was too late. I got all the pages for what I needed and ported back to my guild hall to turn them in. Guess I will have to delete and start over!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>THERE IS NO REASON TO DELETE AND START OVER.

[Anatha]

Ok, I will go to Mara and talk with Oliver. Thanks.

[Anatha]

Um, talking to Oliver and he doesn't have a recipe listed in all the things he says. Now what?

[Chiffon]

FYI, if you have to camp mid zone in the Crypt of Dalnir (TS version) for any reason, the zone resets. Just noting this in case it's not intended to be that way.<br /> <br />After zoning back in my Mummified Ganak Noble illusion was gone, and the spell was no longer in my bags. I was able to purchase another one from the broker, but shouldn't the spell stay with us until we finish the zone?

[Anyaah]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chiffon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chiffon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386799#post-6386799" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">FYI, if you have to camp mid zone in the Crypt of Dalnir (TS version) for any reason, the zone resets. Just noting this in case it's not intended to be that way.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />And don't speak to the Baron more than once.. yeah.. <br /> <br />Also, the forge won't activate for me to craft the rune conduit and I have all the materials.

[Conifur]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386545#post-6386545" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Yup, this. (1) the bathezid's watch sarnak will not trust you unless you've completed this quest - why would they help a stranger?<br />(2) the collection pages, like all tradeskill collections, can't be seen unless you have the Earring of the Solstice; and<br />(3) this is a big quest with some VERY nice rewards which is intended to require quite a significant effort, so game design wise we want it to actually require some time investment, which is why it does require prior completion of the original epic and the ToT signature quest; and<br />(3) although we've called it a signature quest, this is really a tradeskill epic upgrade - Brytthel gives you an upgraded class cloak at the end, which doesn't make much sense story-wise if you don't have the original cloak to start with <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br />I hope everyone noticed how their original epic cloak appearances have been updated and made even more awesome with thanks to Gnobrin's magic skills! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I had no problem getting anyone to trust me in any other expansion without having to do the TS epic, why is it any different now to do the TS quest line in this expansion? I could see if this was for some new Epic but the normal TS quest line? Saddened.

[Niami DenMother]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chiffon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chiffon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386799#post-6386799" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">FYI, if you have to camp mid zone in the Crypt of Dalnir (TS version) for any reason, the zone resets. Just noting this in case it's not intended to be that way.<br /> <br />After zoning back in my Mummified Ganak Noble illusion was gone, and the spell was no longer in my bags. I was able to purchase another one from the broker, but shouldn't the spell stay with us until we finish the zone?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Thanks for the reminder on this as I was going to post about it after the server crash late yesterday afternoon. Thankfully none of these recipes for the quest require rares, so it shouldn't be too expensive to replace if it happens on live.<br /> <br />That reminds me, though - the sellback values on the items is inconsistent, since the sword and shield are marked "No value" and the incense and scroll are not.

[Niami DenMother]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anyaah"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anyaah said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386803#post-6386803" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">And don't speak to the Baron more than once.. yeah..<br /> <br />Also, the forge won't activate for me to craft the rune conduit and I have all the materials.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Just stand very close to the forge and open your recipe book (N) and start crafting.<br /> <br /> <br />I'm convinced that the forge is sulking because of all these non-iksar that have been running up to craft in it. ;D

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Conifur"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Conifur said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386807#post-6386807" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I had no problem getting anyone to trust me in any other expansion without having to do the TS epic, why is it any different now to do the TS quest line in this expansion? I could see if this was for some new Epic but the normal TS quest line? Saddened.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>"The Final Blow" is essentially our Epic quest to upgrade our cloak; it may be marked Signature, but it's really an Epic. You get enough faction to do the dailies/weekly early enough on that you don't have to complete that last big step, so the rest of it is gravy...you can choose to keep going after Lyraquel's quests are done (Brytthel's quest is where the "Epic" part starts), or you can stop there with everything you need to get faction, recipes, and coin/tokens.<br /><br />(So basically imagine the feather and dialogue text balloon at Brytthel have changed to the fancy epic colors/borders, and it's no longer a "normal" quest. <grin> )

[Starcloud]

I finished the quest..awesome mount .. please dont change the appearance <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt="Tongue" /><br />Nice rewards overall<br /> <br />Thank you Domino<br /> <br />Greetings Starcloud

[Xianthia]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386785#post-6386785" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Nooo, we love woodworkers! But for some reason, the pages for the Dalnir book (which only woodworkers, carpenters, and provisioners see) don't seem to be spawning at all this morning. People who ARE seeing pages are probably other classes collecting other books. Haven't been able to figure out why yet, but I'll continue looking. In the mean time you can bypass this step by talking to the beta buffer as others have noted. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Domino Thank you so much for spawning the pages earlier today. However (this is on a carpenter) there may also be a problem with page 2 spawning. <br /> <br />You spawned the shinies and at the end of it all I ended up with: <br /> <br />24 page 4s<br />26 page 5s<br />15 page 6s<br />17 page 7s<br />27 page 8s<br />13 page 9s<br />16 page 10s<br />17 page 12s<br /> <br />and no page 2 to be had. Hopefully once you figure out why some can't see pages maybe the super shy page 2 will also make an appearance <img src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" alt="Tongue" /><br /> <br />Thank you for being available to correct these issues so quickly. Very much appreciated.

[verdi]

hello! same situation here with a provisioner, no page 2 for the moment

[Chiffon]

I got stuck! Literally STUCK! In an attempt to avoid the wandering goo in Crypt of Dalnir, I moved behind one of the items on the floor ( waypoint: -171.58, 1.26, -242.45) and was completely stuck. A GM zoned in to summon me (a conj) and when she attempted to summon me, it brought her my mystic pet instead. I had to dismiss my pet for her to be able to summon me to her location.<br /> <br />You might want to look at the objects on the floor and figure out a way not to get stuck behind them.

[Xianthia]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="verdi"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">verdi said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386826#post-6386826" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">hello! same situation here with a provisioner, no page 2 for the moment</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />You can circumvent this Verdi, go to Oliver and get the recipe. It updated my quest and was able to move on from there and complete the quest.

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="verdi"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">verdi said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386826#post-6386826" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">hello! same situation here with a provisioner, no page 2 for the moment</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Problem found, should be fixed in the next beta update. In the mean time you can skip past this via beta buffer if you wish. (edit to update: Unfortunately looks like beta won't be getting an update today, the next update is expected to be tonight.)

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anatha"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anatha said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386850#post-6386850" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">What is next in my quest log is getting an incense dispenser, an illusion spell, a replica of the sword and shield. I was under the assumption that recipes were needed. It also seems commission work is needed. Not sure I have any tradeskillers in my beta guild. This should be fun!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>No commission is needed. Exactly what is stated in your quest journal is what is needed. Glad to hear you figured it out. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Pixilicious]

So yesterday my character finished the collection, but didn't receive the recipe, then had a nice GM help me and the recipe was auto scribed yesterday, but after that, I had to log, and today I have no recipe <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /> My toon is a sage and is on the part to work with other artisans to gather items.

[Pixilicious]

Ok just read some of the other posts and now I'm confused ... <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /> sorry

[Alenna]

tracking is useless for those pages either it doesn't track when it says it is or he X disappears when I get to the spot which has no page. are craftsman borked?

[Alenna]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386785#post-6386785" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Nooo, we love woodworkers! But for some reason, the pages for the Dalnir book (which only woodworkers, carpenters, and provisioners see) don't seem to be spawning at all this morning. People who ARE seeing pages are probably other classes collecting other books. Haven't been able to figure out why yet, but I'll continue looking. In the mean time you can bypass this step by talking to the beta buffer as others have noted. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" alt="Frown" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>thanks.

[Alenna]

ok just finished the final blow and love hte cloak infact stats are so much better then what I had on that I thought to use it for adventuring as well since I'm 100 in my adventure class. One problem the purple war rune I put on it won't stay when I zone it keeps getting taken off I'm not the only one with this problem it happened to a guildmate of mine on his dwarf Carpenter. I'm on my Half Elf woodworker. My guildmate put in a bug report.

[Jiko]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386081#post-6386081" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Hey folks!<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />If all goes well with the builds tonight, you should get the last part of the tradeskill signature quest on beta tomorrow, 1 November (completion of which will grant your tradeskill beta testing achievement, not to mention other goodies). Assuming you've completed the other prerequisite quests, you'll be able to pick it up from Brytthel in Nye'Caelona.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Since the other general bugs thread is getting a bit lengthy, figured I'd start a new thread specifically for this big endline. Sorry for the delay getting it to beta, but hopefully you can see why it took a little time and hope you enjoy it! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Prerequisites: You will need to have completed "Stranger Friends" and "Choose the Slug Life" from this expansion, and you will also need to have your earring of the solstice and have completed "Proof of the Pudding". Oliver the beta buffer (in Isle of Mara or Maldura) should be able to help you with those if you aren't on a copied character that has them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />You may also find one particular step a bit slow if you are under adventure level 5, but I think it would be almost impossible for even the most focused character to be under adventure level 5 just from discovery XP by the time they get to this quest. However, if you do find any problems with low adventure level, let me know of course! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br />There is also a timed step which I think is currently a little too easy, so feedback is welcome on what an appropriately challenging-but-not-impossible length of time would be.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>

[Jiko]

There is also a timed step which I think is currently a little too easy, so feedback is welcome on what an appropriately challenging-but-not-impossible length of time would be.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Domino an awesome Tradeskill epic but please please do not shorten the Timed-Out quest <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anatha"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anatha said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386792#post-6386792" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Um, talking to Oliver and he doesn't have a recipe listed in all the things he says. Now what?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>If you are on stage 4 of "The Final Blow" ("I need to find enough information to help me create a recipe...") then the last dialog option on Oliver is "I completed the collection for "The Final Blow" but did not get a recipe. Help!"<br /> <br />If you are not on this stage, then you shouldn't be stuck, and you'll need to let me know your character name before I can try to figure out what the issue may be if you are.<br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anyaah"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anyaah said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386803#post-6386803" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Also, the forge won't activate for me to craft the rune conduit and I have all the materials.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>See Niami's posts above about how to work around this. Still working on getting these to cooperate.<br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Conifur"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Conifur said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386807#post-6386807" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I had no problem getting anyone to trust me in any other expansion without having to do the TS epic, why is it any different now to do the TS quest line in this expansion? I could see if this was for some new Epic but the normal TS quest line? Saddened.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>This IS a new epic. Hence the epic cloak upgrade. You even quoted the part where I said <span style="color: #000000">"<i><span style="font-size: 12px">(3) although we've called it a signature quest, this is really a tradeskill epic upgrade"</span></i></span> so I am unclear why you would consider this a normal TS quest line, but if there's something unclear about the fancy blue dialog nodes, hidden quest rewards with the exact same text as the epic quest, and awesome rewards, let me know what could be clearer!<br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chiffon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chiffon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386831#post-6386831" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I got stuck! Literally STUCK! In an attempt to avoid the wandering goo in Crypt of Dalnir, I moved behind one of the items on the floor ( waypoint: -171.58, 1.26, -242.45) and was completely stuck. A GM zoned in to summon me (a conj) and when she attempted to summon me, it brought her my mystic pet instead. I had to dismiss my pet for her to be able to summon me to her location.<br /> <br />You might want to look at the objects on the floor and figure out a way not to get stuck behind them.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I'll pass this along to the art team, thanks! What race are you, in case that's relevant?

[Chiffon]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote"> <aside> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I'll pass this along to the art team, thanks! What race are you, in case that's relevant?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I'm a wood elf, and not using any shrink abilities.

[Niami DenMother]

There's a Thalumbra port in line of sight from Brytthel's spot in Nye'Caelona, but it only unlocks during the adventure line. Could it be made to unlock during this part of the TS sig line as well for those needing to head back to the spire? <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Anatha]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386841#post-6386841" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">If you are on stage 4 of "The Final Blow" ("I need to find enough information to help me create a recipe...") then the last dialog option on Oliver is "I completed the collection for "The Final Blow" but did not get a recipe. Help!"<br /> <br />If you are not on this stage, then you shouldn't be stuck, and you'll need to let me know your character name before I can try to figure out what the issue may be if you are.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>What is next in my quest log is getting an incense dispenser, an illusion spell, a replica of the sword and shield. I was under the assumption that recipes were needed. It also seems commission work is needed. Not sure I have any tradeskillers in my beta guild. This should be fun!

[Anatha]

Nevermind....luckily other tradeskillers put the necessary items on the broker. Ready for the next part.

[Sucha]

Disregard the idiot conj - figured it out.

[avashi]

I skimmed the thread for waypoints on pages so I wouldn't repeat them, if I missed them I apologize. Looking for pages this morning I found two that I could not retrieve as they are under the stairs, Locations are 1169.22, 205.81, 1504.26 and 1184.83, 205.27, 1447.76

[Kickya]

same 2 are still under the stairs, still page 2 is not showing up and still several times i reach the ! and when click collect it vanishes

[Aurial]

Last night I logged out while in Arcanna's Spire (the final blow questline) and today the purple portal is not there, I have submitted a /bug, posted in the general subforum of these Beta forums but I can't continue on until the purple portal appears for me. I am hopeful that I can complete this line before the mount offer is over. I don't want to delete the quest as I am pretty far into it, does anybody else have any ideas? I have seen others going into the portal so I know its there, I just can't see it.

[Yahku]

Hey,<br /> <br />either i am having the same issue some woodworkers reported earlier as a Jeweler, or there is an insane rarity for some pages (Page 3 and 11 missing):<br /> <br /><img src="http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/tradeskillpageswa1rlnomq7.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Yahku"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Yahku said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387104#post-6387104" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Hey,<br /> <br />either i am having the same issue some woodworkers reported earlier as a Jeweler, or there is an insane rarity for some pages (Page 3 and 11 missing):</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Yahku, keep an eye out for clickable bookcases in the area...pages 3 and 11 are in those.

[Yahku]

So it was a tunnel vision problem, thanks for clarifying!

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Yahku"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Yahku said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387296#post-6387296" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">So it was a tunnel vision problem, thanks for clarifying!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I did the same thing...brain was in a "click page, click page, find page, click page" loop.<img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /> <br /><br />Glad it helped!

[Slappywhite]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Yahku"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Yahku said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387104#post-6387104" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Hey,<br /> <br />either i am having the same issue some woodworkers reported earlier as a Jeweler, or there is an insane rarity for some pages (Page 3 and 11 missing):<br /> <br /><img src="http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/tradeskillpageswa1rlnomq7.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Collecting the pages is already double-plus annoying. The ability to get duplicates needs to be removed. Also, tonight on Beta there were only two of us chasing pages around the library and we kept chasing the same tracked "!" things. Can you IMAGINE what this is going to be like on live? This step really needs to be revamped. As a player I felt foolish racing around such a tiny area overandoverandover and then the duplicates started piling up. This is not "fun."

[Niami DenMother]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386845#post-6386845" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">There's a Thalumbra port in line of sight from Brytthel's spot in Nye'Caelona, but it only unlocks during the adventure line. Could it be made to unlock during this part of the TS sig line as well for those needing to head back to the spire? <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Today's patch fixed it so that crafters could use this port to get to the spire (thank you!), but they cannot return via the mate to it in Thalumbra.<br /> <br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote"> <aside> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">ZONES / POPULATION<br /><ul><li>The teleporter in Nye'Caelona will now send you to the Arcanna'se Spire portal in Thalumbra.</li><li>The teleporter outside of Arcanna'se Spire in Thalumbra will now send you to Nye'Caelona.</li></ul></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>

[Iglu]

Looks like the patch did fix the missing Page 2 for provisioner's as I have picked one up and can complete the collection for the recipe <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Iglu]

Did anyone else think the effect range of the Incense was a bit small ?

[Niami DenMother]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386081#post-6386081" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">You may also find one particular step a bit slow if you are under adventure level 5, but I think it would be almost impossible for even the most focused character to be under adventure level 5 just from discovery XP by the time they get to this quest. However, if you do find any problems with low adventure level, let me know of course! <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>If you create a level 1 character on beta, warp to Mara and get buffed to a level 100 crafter with the proper quest flagging, and "just" get discovery xp from running through these quests (plus xp from the goblish language and collection quest), you'll be around level 7 or level 8 when you get to the destroyable wall. (I didn't turn off xp, I just didn't do any adventuring at all). I had to take a side-trip to do New Lands, New Profits so the sarnak in Bathezid's would stop killing me as I tried to get inside the building, but anyone who is doing this part of the quest will have had to have don that anyway in order to get their solstice earring.<br /> <br /> <br />It takes a few (2-8) blasts/blows, but the wall and vase die.<br /> <br />Why yes, I did test for those who are intentionally doing things the hard way! <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" />

[Niami DenMother]

As an FYI, the reward mount, Brightfire, Essence of Arcanna'se is spammy if you are using it as a non-100 adventurer. Every time you zone, it spams you with "requires level at least 100" eleven or so times. Every single time you zone.<br /> <br />Tested with a level 9/100 then level 10/100 to be certain it was just the mount, and not the cloak, and it seems to be just the mount feeling spammy. The cloak doesn't seem to be similarly grumpy.

[Taiyla]

Took a look at the cloak upgrade that is available now. Just wondering about the ability modifier.... the quest reward cloak has 18k and the upgraded cloak only has 8k. All the other stats are higher except the ability modifier, is this an opps or as intended?<br /><img src="http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii110/Reality2001/31b63570-5dda-41ee-852b-44fd3bb01f7f.png" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Garten]

Upgraded (Prestige) version of Jeweler cloak is equip-able by All Scholars instead of Jeweler. If this is on purpose, this is awesome <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /><br /> <br /><a href="http://imgur.com/a/Xas0U" target="_blank" class="externalLink" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/a/Xas0U</a><br /> <br />Also, and I know this isn't tradeskill related, but my adorns have no class requirements on them, so I don't know why there's a class restriction due to a modification...

[Lambrick]

one thing I've noticed with the new upgrade crafting cloak you buy from scribbleclaw, you cannot reforge it. is that intentional?

[Niami DenMother]

I can confirm that purple adorns (Reification and Descent of Drinal, for example) are being popped out of the GM crafting cloaks on zoning. The specific cloaks in this case were the prestige version of the Cloak of the Grandmaster Woodworker, and the quest reward version of the Cloak of the Grandmaster Alchemist

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387950#post-6387950" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I can confirm that purple adorns (Reification in this case) are being popped out of the GM crafting cloaks on zoning. The specific cloak in this case was the prestige version of the Cloak of the Grandmaster Woodworker.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Yup, also happening here (there is more data from others in <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/please-give-the-grandmaster-ts-cloaks-a-purple-adorn-slot.573605/" class="internalLink">this thread</a></span> over in General Beta Discussion).

[Niami DenMother]

D'oh on me missing that thread. I tend to not go into General Beta Discussion much with this amount of tunnel vision.<br /> <br />Meanwhile, the following was in the first Nov 5 patch notes.<br /> <br /><ul><li><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote"> <aside> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Incense for "The Final Blow" now stacks</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div></li></ul>I haven't tested it personally yet, but someone in general chat is saying that they just made 110 of them, and they don't stack.

[Niami DenMother]

The upgraded cloaks from Scribbleclaw not only have the same name as your existing one, but they share an examine window. If you open up an examine on one (A), then try to do the same to the other (B), it closes your current examine window (A).

[Trepide@Storms]

I confirm that weaponsmith master cloak is loosing its purple adorn everytime I zone.<br />Additionnaly, the upgraded prestige one has 10k less Hab Mod than the normal one.

[I like bears]

Ignore this post; realized this was the bugs section, not feedback.

[Gudum]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387761#post-6387761" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">If you create a level 1 character on beta, warp to Mara and get buffed to a level 100 crafter with the proper quest flagging, and "just" get discovery xp from running through these quests (plus xp from the goblish language and collection quest), you'll be around level 7 or level 8 when you get to the destroyable wall. (I didn't turn off xp, I just didn't do any adventuring at all). I had to take a side-trip to do New Lands, New Profits so the sarnak in Bathezid's would stop killing me as I tried to get inside the building, but anyone who is doing this part of the quest will have had to have don that anyway in order to get their solstice earring.<br /> <br /> <br />It takes a few (2-8) blasts/blows, but the wall and vase die.<br /> <br />Why yes, I did test for those who are intentionally doing things the hard way! <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I can confirm that the questline can be completed on an adventure level 2 (channeler in this case). With expert level spells/abilities, and nothing but the gear he was born with, the wall will take damage, but very, very slowly. After equipping a full set of gear (mixture of level 2 mastercrafted and tradeskill gear), it went much faster.

[Alenna]

purple war runes still being popped off GM cloak

[Niami DenMother]

I could swear that *somewhere* in here was some comment from Domino about what to do if you failed-by-death on one of the "Time is Short" combines to get more rune conduits needed for the combines. However, when I got tell-bombed tonight, I was unable to find the post after searching many pages in several bug threads (and checked the patch notes for this month as well).<br /> <br />How does someone obtain more rune conduits if they've lost them due to death or failures? I thought they'd be returned to you, but apparently they are not being returned, and the player in question (Ahmassar) says they only got one combine actually completed and are out of conduit runes to do further combine attempts.<br /> <br />I'm at a loss.

[Niami DenMother]

Ignore the above post, since I got back here 1 minute too late to edit it. The answer is "keep on crafting, more magically appear as you need them in the timed crafting process. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Zictor]

stackable incense Dispenser has 1 charge. non-stackable version had unlimited charges

[Zictor]

When using Overseer Sword & Overseer Shield during the quest. Items are also deleted from shared bank

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Zictor"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Zictor said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6389450#post-6389450" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">When using Overseer Sword & Overseer Shield during the quest. Items are also deleted from shared bank</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Which items? Extras of the sword and shield? Or did you leave your sword and shield in the bank and fail to take them in your inventory, so they were deleted from the bank?

[Domino]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Niami DenMother"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Niami DenMother said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6389543#post-6389543" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">But normally it doesn't outright eat the ones in shared bank, unless the quest is checking inventory for extras and deleting them at the end of that step in the quest.<br /> <br />With regards to the charged stackable incense issue, as soon as I eat, I'll make sure to get a ton on the broker on beta for the interim, so folks can have enough to get through all the ghosts, while Domino and the crew figure out a fix. (I suspect that if we want it unlimited charges, we may have to settle for the non-stackable version we started with, but ...)</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Found the issue - unless we specifically tell the podium (or whatever) how many items to remove, it defaults to removing ALL of them, and that apparently even includes ones left in your bank. The podiums have now been told to remove only ONE.<br /> <br />And we think we found a work around that should let the incense still be stackable but not one-charge only... if it doesn't work we may have to revert it to being unstackable, but seemed to work locally and should be on beta for testing tomorrow. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Zictor]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6389512#post-6389512" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Which items? Extras of the sword and shield? Or did you leave your sword and shield in the bank and fail to take them in your inventory, so they were deleted from the bank?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>i create 10 shields, 10 swords, moved 1 of each into inventory. leaving 9 of each in shared bank. using each during the quest. after finishing quest checked shared bank for next character. items are missing

[Niami DenMother]

Shared bank has always been ... odd ... about quest items. Things like the map of Old Tunaria for the What Lies Beneath line and the scary Eidolon tree for Gathering Obsession Beyond the Grave need to be out of shared bank before you hit the step where you need to gather those items, or you get none. It checks and sees that you theoretically have one and won't let you get another.<br /> <br />But normally it doesn't outright eat the ones in shared bank, unless the quest is checking inventory for extras and deleting them at the end of that step in the quest.<br /> <br />With regards to the charged stackable incense issue, as soon as I eat, I'll make sure to get a ton on the broker on beta for the interim, so folks can have enough to get through all the ghosts, while Domino and the crew figure out a fix. (I suspect that if we want it unlimited charges, we may have to settle for the non-stackable version we started with, but ...)

[Shmogre]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Domino"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Domino said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6389586#post-6389586" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">And we think we found a work around that should let the incense still be stackable but not one-charge only... if it doesn't work we may have to revert it to being unstackable, but seemed to work locally and should be on beta for testing tomorrow. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>So far, so good...I made some dispensers and they stacked fine, then went into the Baron's Workshop and have been able to use them many times over without depleting the stack.<br /> <br />(I giggled...you can tell they are now stacking by checking the broker, someone has 2400 of them available. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /> )