[Paladin] Enhanced Righteousness Added Mitigation Effect

[Cragfire]

<i>Paladin</i><br /><ul><li>Enhance: Righteousness will now grant an effect that reduces combat mitigation.</li></ul>Picked this up and the Mitigation effect is 3 (three)? Am I reading that correctly? My Paladin has close to 15000 mitigation, 3 is... well.. nothing? I can't be reading that correctly.<br /> <br /><img src="http://oi68.tinypic.com/2hojq6c.jpg" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" />

[Mermut]

I'm actually curious why it's suddenly being called 'combat mitigation' rather then 'mitigation' or 'physical mitigation'.... How is 'combat mitigation' different from 'regular' mitigation. And if it's not different.. why the different verbage?

[Lucus]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mermut"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mermut said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6385780#post-6385780" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I'm actually curious why it's suddenly being called 'combat mitigation' rather then 'mitigation' or 'physical mitigation'.... How is 'combat mitigation' different from 'regular' mitigation. And if it's not different.. why the different verbage?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>combat mitigation is on the enemy NPC, i'm thinking the naming difference is to avoid confusing it with player mitigation.

[Mermut]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Lucus"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Lucus said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6385790#post-6385790" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">combat mitigation is on the enemy NPC, i'm thinking the naming difference is to avoid confusing it with player mitigation.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I guess I'm used to the older arts which just said mitigation or physical mitigation, or arcane mitigation, etc of target... which was the mobs..<br />I'd be way more confused if an offensive art decreased the player's mitigation then if the arts just said 'decreased target's mitigation'...

[Malleria]

Combat mitigation is a new stat they introduced with Nizara and are using going forward. It's not the same thing as physical mitigation.<br /> <br />That said... about a week ago I took a beta buffed ranger into some heroics to check the requirements and trash mobs had about 1200 combat mitigation. So debuffing 3 from that does seem a bit... underwhelming.<br /> <br />*That said, combat mitigation values will probably change before it goes live, so we'll have to see what they end up at.

[Cragfire]

Just re-reading my above post - I didn't mean to come off as snippy; it was meant more as a cheeky post but came off as snippy. I apologize for that. Bad Cragfire.<br /> <br />Good information on Combat Mitigation.

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Malleria"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Malleria said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6385813#post-6385813" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Combat mitigation is a new stat they introduced with Nizara and are using going forward. It's not the same thing as physical mitigation.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />That said... about a week ago I took a beta buffed ranger into some heroics to check the requirements and trash mobs had about 1200 combat mitigation. So debuffing 3 from that does seem a bit... underwhelming.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />*That said, combat mitigation values will probably change before it goes live, so we'll have to see what they end up at.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />that number in heroic currently tripled to roughly 3500ish and to the OP it % based off the mobs combat mit

[Pitta]

Raid encounters have ~4000

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Pitta"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Pitta said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386756#post-6386756" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Raid encounters have ~4000</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />8967 as of last night im certian itll get adjusted though

[Errrorr]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Pitta"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Pitta said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386756#post-6386756" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Raid encounters have ~4000</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Try 12k as you go higher <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Errrorr"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Errrorr said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6386791#post-6386791" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Try 12k as you go higher <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />so those % are gonna add up i was kinda afriad of that :/

[Pitta]

yea i was going off of values for that first raid zone, and i dont remember the combat mit that the mob had that we tested.

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Pitta"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Pitta said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387041#post-6387041" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">yea i was going off of values for that first raid zone, and i dont remember the combat mit that the mob had that we tested.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />yeah so was imy number off the 3 or forth named iirc

[Raenius]

Hence, your shiny 200million abilities suddendly hit for 700k - NOT cool!<br /> <br />To be fair, since there is resolve - why introduce another stat?<br />Just give the mobs slighty more resolve than you can gain in total and there is all which seems to be necessary to get balanced.

[Pitta]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Raenius"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Raenius said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387081#post-6387081" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Hence, your shiny 200million abilities suddendly hit for 700k - NOT cool!<br /> <br />To be fair, since there is resolve - why introduce another stat?<br />Just give the mobs slighty more resolve than you can gain in total and there is all which seems to be necessary to get balanced.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>They are doing this because stat inflation was causing lag. Bigger numbers mean more data being sent to log files, server files, etc. The smaller the number, the less data, less lag. Makes sense.

[Zelox]

i lold

[Malleria]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Pitta"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Pitta said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387381#post-6387381" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">They are doing this because stat inflation was causing lag. Bigger numbers mean more data being sent to log files, server files, etc. The smaller the number, the less data, less lag. Makes sense.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Except requiring every action to perform an additional calculation (the effect of combat mitigation) will cause far more strain on the server than saving a couple of numbers on the end ever could (assuming of course that it would do anything at all, which is unlikely).

[Raenius]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Malleria"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Malleria said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6387566#post-6387566" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Except requiring every action to perform an additional calculation (the effect of combat mitigation) will cause far more strain on the server than saving a couple of numbers on the end ever could (assuming of course that it would do anything at all, which is unlikely).</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Exactly - initial damage gets applied, then another calculation made to reduce final value - bad idea in the first place.