Long Live the Emperor PQ

[Mercychalice]

I see the area on the map, I see one or two people killing things, but I don't see what they're killing. There's nothing here. When I target the person I see killing something, they don't have a target (to me) so I have no idea what they're killing, but I am getting updates from their kills while I'm in the area.

[Chrol]

You have to be on a specific stage of the signature quest to partake in this public quest.

[Slappywhite]

Then if you're NOT on that stage, you shouldn't see it at all. It just creates confusion. Why should everyone see it if only a tiny, very specific subset of players can participate and interact with it?

[Shmogre]

It's also confusing folks who try to help...the call goes out in chat for someone to assist, but when they get there, they can't do anything if they aren't on that step. "Public" is a bit of a misnomer if it's restricted.

[Chrol]

When you complete that signature quest, you can see the public quest NPCs and partake in it for PQ rewards.<br /> <br />There will also be a daily mission that allows you to start this public quest which will only be available after completing the signature quest series. This will give you rewards from the mission plus those already granted by the PQ.

[Mystfit]

Well, it'll be confusing but not for very long. As soon as people understand the requirement, they'll know real quick to ignore until they're ready <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" />

[Mystfit]

<img src="http://www.jklm.net/atn/battle1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" alt="[IMG]" /><br /> <br /> <br /> <br />I noticed this today when I logged into beta

[Xianthia]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mystfit"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mystfit said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383424#post-6383424" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Well, it'll be confusing but not for very long. As soon as people understand the requirement, they'll know real quick to ignore until they're ready <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />The word will get around very quickly. As well as folks rushing to get to that step so they don't get stuck with not being able to kill the mobs in time. Xalgoz was a little bit tricky with just two of us doing earlier today.

[Chrol]

Xalgoz was doing heroic-level damage. He'll be adjusted for solo content.

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chrol"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chrol said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383685#post-6383685" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Xalgoz was doing heroic-level damage. He'll be adjusted for solo content.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>So I land near this event/update and scoop up a few goblins and blam, 60 mil dps. I'm a defiler so shush. Anyways, so I run over and start this event and I'm doing worse dps than I did in Desert of Flames. I'm the only one here and I'm averaging 22k dps on them. That's right, 22k. Not 22 million, but a whopping 22,000 dps. I'm averaging 1 kill per 4-5 minutes. This is dumb.

[Tamila]

Completed this step last night (9pm pst). Failed the first try, but I thought it was because it was single person update and I wasn't the one that triggered it. I did trigger the one that we completed. I invited a warlock and later a pally who also got updates. DPS was really low. I am fairly certain I couldn't have done this solo.<br /> <br />(11:00) Xalgoz: 377270 Pally-Legionnaire's Conviction-1,052,957<br />Warlock | 162098 | 61962 (DPS | HPS)<br />Tamil | 100764 | 221633<br />Pally | 72025 | 28091<br />Lady | 42383 | 23<br />Zhugr | 0 | 3856

[Tamila]

The quest did say something .. "if the fight hasn't already started", or if "he wasn't already engaged". That part could be confusing.

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Tamila"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Tamila said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383843#post-6383843" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Completed this step last night (9pm pst). Failed the first try, but I thought it was because it was single person update and I wasn't the one that triggered it. I did trigger the one that we completed. I invited a warlock and later a pally who also got updates. DPS was really low. I am fairly certain I couldn't have done this solo.<br /> <br />(11:00) Xalgoz: 377270 Pally-Legionnaire's Conviction-1,052,957<br />Warlock | 162098 | 61962 (DPS | HPS)<br />Tamil | 100764 | 221633<br />Pally | 72025 | 28091<br />Lady | 42383 | 23<br />Zhugr | 0 | 3856</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Ya, I spammed chat and didn't get any replies. I see this being a major problem later in the Kunark expansion. Players need to be able to solo this entire signature quest. What happens when people stop running it? Or how about those people that work weird hours or live in different time zones? How are they going to solo this quest?<br /> <br />I left ToT a month after launch due to itemization. I came back and these PQs were in the game. They are terribly unpopular. There is ZERO fun factor in doing them because of the time investment, lack of dps and horrible reward versus effort. Please just remove this PQ requirement. Id rather you add 200 quests than do 1 PQ.

[Winddragon]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="ZUES"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">ZUES said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383849#post-6383849" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Ya, I spammed chat and didn't get any replies. I see this being a major problem later in the Kunark expansion. Players need to be able to solo this entire signature quest. What happens when people stop running it? Or how about those people that work weird hours or live in different time zones? How are they going to solo this quest?<br /> <br />I left ToT a month after launch due to itemization. I came back and these PQs were in the game. They are terribly unpopular. There is ZERO fun factor in doing them because of the time investment, lack of dps and horrible reward versus effort. Please just remove this PQ requirement. Id rather you add 200 quests than do 1 PQ.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>This isn't one of the PQs from earlier, this one has some decent rewards from running it. Seems to be some group-level gear obtainable from the currency you can get from running it.

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Winddragon"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Winddragon said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383865#post-6383865" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">This isn't one of the PQs from earlier, this one has some decent rewards from running it. Seems to be some group-level gear obtainable from the currency you can get from running it.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>The reward is not worth the effort. That, and like I said, this entire signature line needs to be soloable. What's going to happen is players will complete this at launch and then never do it again. New, returning and slow players will be stuck on this step because noone will be there to help them finish it. The only way to keep this a legitimate aspect of this sig line is to put 5-10 best in slot items (like ethereal level stuff) and force players to grind it every chance they can. Otherwise whis is a pointless addition to EQ2 and the expansion.<br /><br />PQ's are horrible and not fun. They were awesome in Great Divide! But these new ones and whatever damage mitigation thing is happening is just dumb. There is nothing fun about them, only annoyance. I'm just being honest.

[Stimps]

One BIS is more like it, make it rare

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Stimps"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Stimps said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6384141#post-6384141" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">One BIS is more like it, make it rare</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>One BiS won't maintain our interest. Same problem as I stated above, many stragglers will get stuck on this step and not be able to solo it.

[Mezaka]

Definitely want to add to ZUES's comment about tuning it: its definitely needs to be scaled so it can be soloed, if need be. As a templar, even with raid gear, at best I was able to get 8 down 12 minutes in. A few people came in to help (thanks all!) and it was successful! I can see where others will get discouraged, though, if they aren't able to get in on it early on, or, if they want to run alts through it at a later date.<br /> <br />What made the thurgadin PQ's great was that they scaled in difficulty. Could the same be considered here, please?