XP to level

[KitKat31337]

I dont know what the progression all the way to level 10 in one of the classes is, but I have over a mil in the first day. I do not see why this would be bad as long as the quest content supports it.

[Rondo9]

Considering you can only gain 1 mil ascension XP (when expac is released) every 24 hours and level 5 requires 29 mil (total from level 1 to 5) that would mean at least 29 days to get to level 5 on one class. I could be wrong here but we would be looking at around 90 days per class to get to max? If that is true then it well take all expac to level all ascension classes unless there well be other ways to obtain guided ascension scrolls other then the NPC's.

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Rondo9"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Rondo9 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380560#post-6380560" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Considering you can only gain 1 mil ascension XP (when expac is released) every 24 hours and level 5 requires 29 mil (total from level 1 to 5) that would mean at least 29 days to get to level 5 on one class. I could be wrong here but we would be looking at around 90 days per class to get to max? If that is true then it well take all expac to level all ascension classes unless there well be other ways to obtain guided ascension scrolls other then the NPC's.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />this imho is not shocking considering some of the end line abilities if they stay like they are each gets pretty powerfull abilities examples of this: nox gets verdit(higher level of this adds % threshhold to cast it with),

[Rondo9]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Uncle"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Uncle said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380568#post-6380568" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">this imho is not shocking considering some of the end line abilities if they stay like they are each gets pretty powerfull abilities examples of this: nox gets verdit(higher level of this adds % threshhold to cast it with),</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Yes a few but not many, most of the damage ones with there rreeeallllyyyy long cast times and reuse well parse really low unless the fight is under 20secs

[Entropy]

You guys do realize that there are several zones in game (current ones, not new KA ones) where you can easily grind huge amounts of XP, right? I was getting around 100 tithe points per hour one afternoon in HKC... this was like 9 months ago, on a warlock. Also, the zone quests and dailies for TOT heroics give pretty massive XP... over 400k each for me, plus the XP from the actual mob kills too.<br /> <br />We're going to be gated by the fact that we can only get one ascension XP scroll per day from the trainer, not by the fact that it takes millions of XP to level.

[Kelvani]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Entropy"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Entropy said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380604#post-6380604" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">You guys do realize that there are several zones in game (current ones, not new KA ones) where you can easily grind huge amounts of XP, right? I was getting around 100 tithe points per hour one afternoon in HKC... this was like 9 months ago, on a warlock. Also, the zone quests and dailies for TOT heroics give pretty massive XP... over 400k each for me, plus the XP from the actual mob kills too.<br /> <br />We're going to be gated by the fact that we can only get one ascension XP scroll per day from the trainer, not by the fact that it takes millions of XP to level.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Heroics are not everyone's playstyle. While I get that some things are just not meant to be casual player friendly, I hope that solo and adv solo zones will give enough exp that I do not have to spend all my playtime grinding to level vs enjoying other aspects of the game. I am concerned that the "playstyle" gap could cause players who aren't grind oriented an even harder time with casually grouping, as the lack of Ascension levels might be cause for more focused players to not want to group with them (just playing devils advocate here).<br /><br />Thoughts on this from those whose focus will be on maxing their levels daily wanting to play with those who take a more casual approach? Do you perceive these abilitys to be such a game changer that the lack of them will make you reject grouping with folks (even on a casual basis) who do not focus on them?<br /><br />/sigh

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Rondo9"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Rondo9 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380560#post-6380560" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Considering you can only gain 1 mil ascension XP (when expac is released) every 24 hours and level 5 requires 29 mil (total from level 1 to 5) that would mean at least 29 days to get to level 5 on one class. I could be wrong here but we would be looking at around 90 days per class to get to max? If that is true then it well take all expac to level all ascension classes unless there well be other ways to obtain guided ascension scrolls other then the NPC's.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I believe those are just beta buffs. I could be wrong.<br /> <br /><div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kelvani"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kelvani said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380609#post-6380609" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Heroics are not everyone's playstyle. While I get that some things are just not meant to be casual player friendly, I hope that solo and adv solo zones will give enough exp that I do not have to spend all my playtime grinding to level vs enjoying other aspects of the game. I am concerned that the "playstyle" gap could cause players who aren't grind oriented an even harder time with casually grouping, as the lack of Ascension levels might be cause for more focused players to not want to group with them (just playing devils advocate here).<br /> <br />Thoughts on this from those whose focus will be on maxing their levels daily wanting to play with those who take a more casual approach? Do you perceive these abilitys to be such a game changer that the lack of them will make you reject grouping with folks (even on a casual basis) who do not focus on them?<br /> <br />/sigh</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Effort versus reward. If you chose to solo you chose less XP and less gear. Welcome to life. Start a company or work for minimum wage. But a 1980's Chevette or a 2017 Mercedes. Rent a house or buy one. Get a GED or a Masters degree. These are all personal choices based on the level of effort you put into them. Gaming is no different. Do the time to earn the dime.<br /><br />This is an expansion and has to last an entire year. It's not intended to be completed in a week. And I'm glad.

[Kelvani]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="ZUES"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">ZUES said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380613#post-6380613" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I<br />Effort versus reward. If you chose to solo you chose less XP and less gear. Welcome to life. Start a company or work for minimum wage. But a 1980's Chevette or a 2017 Mercedes. Rent a house or buy one. Get a GED or a Masters degree. These are all personal choices based on the level of effort you put into them. Gaming is no different. Do the time to earn the dime.<br /> <br />This is an expansion and has to last an entire year. It's not intended to be completed in a week. And I'm glad.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />Definitely NOT wanting it to last a week only =p I am not asking for raider level rewards either, as a casual player. My question, simply put again is this:<br /> <br />Do you, as a self proclaimed "2017 Mercedes" player find the benefits of the Ascension class to be so great that you would refuse to group with a "1980's cheverolet" playstyle person on a casual basis (ie random pugs or guildies who just aren't as motivated or have time constraints preventing them from being a Mercedes), or do you find the Ascension class, as it stands, to be a nice but not necessary requirement to grouping?

[Conifur]

I thought you could use as many of the beta buffs as you want, they just only last for 24 hours if you don't actually use the 1 million?

[ZUES]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Kelvani"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Kelvani said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380623#post-6380623" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Definitely NOT wanting it to last a week only =p I am not asking for raider level rewards either, as a casual player. My question, simply put again is this:<br /> <br />Do you, as a self proclaimed "2017 Mercedes" player find the benefits of the Ascension class to be so great that you would refuse to group with a "1980's cheverolet" playstyle person on a casual basis (ie random pugs or guildies who just aren't as motivated or have time constraints preventing them from being a Mercedes), or do you find the Ascension class, as it stands, to be a nice but not necessary requirement to grouping?</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I got a chuckle out of this. I didn't "self proclaim" anything. It was just a blanket statement. I group with anyone and everyone. I'm powerleveling and gearing up a returning player as we speak. <br /><br />My opinion on the Ascension classes:<br />1. I would have preferred levels 1-100. I enjoy having something to look forward too. 100 levels just feels like a sense of accomplishment. 1-10, not so much.<br />2. I think their casting times are horribad and their abilities seem a bit lackluster to me. I like the potency buff now that I understand it.<br />3. I like the direction the devs are going with this. I'll like it more when I see how the Ascension classes are used in solo, heroic and raid zone mechanics.

[Wurm]

Does it really take 3,000,000 xp to level up one time?<br /> <br />If so I'm no longer excited about this.

[Kelvani]

Thank you Zues for a thoughtful and informative reply. I think 10 levels gives them room to add another 10 next expac... ect and so on. It seems that traditional levels are not going to exceed 100 anytime soon. The second point you make sounds like scouts would actually be hurting using ascension class abilities then, as timing is everything when your auto attack is 2.3 seconds.. especially if ascension abilities are lackluster? I might be reading into what you said, but it sounds like you are saying casual players will still be viable without maxxing these abilities, for casual playstyle heroics and the like.<br /> <br />As always, everything goes out the window when talking about raids and advanced heroics =p I am fine with that!

[Uncle]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Rondo9"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Rondo9 said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380598#post-6380598" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Yes a few but not many, most of the damage ones with there rreeeallllyyyy long cast times and reuse well parse really low unless the fight is under 20secs</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />i honestly think the point of these is to complete x script for x named not to be used as a specif part of our regular roations but thats just my .02 and maybe aa dev will drop a hint about that

[Stimps]

They already did, not part of strat scripts, see above

[Diveris]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="ZUES"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">ZUES said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380613#post-6380613" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I believe those are just beta buffs. I could be wrong.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Effort versus reward. If you chose to solo you chose less XP and less gear. Welcome to life. Start a company or work for minimum wage. But a 1980's Chevette or a 2017 Mercedes. Rent a house or buy one. Get a GED or a Masters degree. These are all personal choices based on the level of effort you put into them. Gaming is no different. Do the time to earn the dime.<br /> <br /><i><b>This is an expansion and has to last an entire year. It's not intended to be completed in a week. And I'm glad.</b></i></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I agree with this but feel as though stopping people from earning xp due to a lockout is not the way to go about it, Idc if each level took 20mil+ as long as we are not locked into only being able to earn 1mil a day. Feels like an unnatural way to slow us down. Lockouts on everything is like trying to keep us playing by not letting us play lol.