The Frillik Tide

[Chrol]

<span style="font-size: 13px">Hey all!</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 13px">Please post any and all bugs and feedback regarding The Frillik Tide within this thread.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 13px">Thanks!</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 13px">-Chrol</span>

[Elowith]

I can see no particular direction I should go in (once I have the keys), and guards spot me immediately despite crouching as suggested.

[Neiloch]

I got through it, but I'm rather annoyed stealth has no 'rules' to it, you have to figure out who can see you and when by trial and error. It won't be much of a problem once walkthroughs and what not are made, but still quite annoying. Two prime examples are the solo guard above your cell and the captain, apparently they can see things coming from a mile away on one side and oblivious to the other.

[Dabb]

Chrol I think the LoS is way too far for the brig guards

[Chrol]

If you stay out of the open space between the brig and the cabin in the center (on deck), you won't get caught. If so, then that's a bug. If you crouch and do a bit of exploring, staying behind guards, you should get enough hints through /say to get you through it.

[Kelvani]

It is not very clear which guard has my helm.. so I would like to suggest some sort of identifier to point them out?

[Alenna]

I was crouching going accross the mast and still the gaure saw me while he was under the mast no LOS

[Dabb]

Chrol, if in the ship and you go LD and come back you have to start all over again :/<br /> <br /> <br />starts you back in thalumbra<br /> <br /> <br />then you have to make your way back to the queen<br /> <br /> <br />hail her to get back to the ship<br /> <br /> <br />once in the ship the quest starts over no matter how far you were advanced in the quest

[Dabb]

and there is no way to progress there is no rat coming to bring key

[Dabb]

ok here is rat now, I had to stand on top of the slave for the sequence to start over

[Kelvani]

Happy to say that once I stopped focusing on finding the helm and looked around a bit got back on track. It was not an easy quest, but once you know it its doable. So, with us beta folks to help when it goes live should be doable for the majority. Some folks just will fail cause they don't do timing well =p

[Quigly]

I enjoyed this little instance. As long as people are taking time to read /say and examining the items they can pick up it is pretty self explanatory.

[Chrol]

Putting in more clues, including the part about the slaver with the helm. Also, some helms were not clickable - this will be fixed.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Alenna"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Alenna said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6378773#post-6378773" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I was crouching going accross the mast and still the gaure saw me while he was under the mast no LOS</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>This will be fixed.

[Buggabug]

It took some time, trial and error and omg patience. I wouldn't put the time in on multiple toons though; I'd just stay in Thalumbra.

[Materfarmer]

Whenever the guards would catch me I would equip my gear. Sometimes I can see the gear on me sometimes not but I presume you want us to stay "disarmed" of all gear until the final bit

[Materfarmer]

Oh and while it did take some deaths to figure out things I felt there were plenty of dialogue clues except for getting out of the box. Unless I missed the clue about clicking off buff.

[Catterinna]

I am across the mast and the guard cant even see me but i get caught

[Elowith]

I really don't understand the point of this zone. It is a mixture of Mario skills/coordination and doing 'puzzles' that are the same for everyone and are frustrating enough that channels (and soon wiki) provide a much-needed detailed walk through, taking the thinking out of it.

[Errrorr]

I liked the zone, it was relatively simple with a bit of thought. I then helped lots of people through it via general chat who got it.<br /><br />I do think the clues could use their radius expending a little, but that seems fine now. People just lack patience for these kind of zones as they can't steam roll it

[Fredero]

I have decided to do away with my gear, those pesky pirates can keep it! However, I am keeping the crate! I am now forever to be a crate <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Uncle]

the rope imho need to be put in a better place behind the guard having it where it currently is was troublesome for me to get if the guard desided to stay put for an extened period of time <br /> <br />uncle

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Uncle"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Uncle said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379038#post-6379038" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">the rope imho need to be put in a better place behind the guard having it where it currently is was troublesome for me to get if the guard desided to stay put for an extened period of time<br /> <br />uncle</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>You'll be able to grab the rope and the pick from a bit further away <span style="text-decoration: line-through">after the next update</span> NOW!

[Maripop]

I did the adventure instance yesterday and ran an alt through to perfect my timing etc. Today doing the TS line I found myself again on this ship. I was doing amazing and then I got to the guy that has your hat and he was MIA!

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Maripop"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Maripop said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379093#post-6379093" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I did the adventure instance yesterday and ran an alt through to perfect my timing etc. Today doing the TS line I found myself again on this ship. I was doing amazing and then I got to the guy that has your hat and he was MIA!</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Did you see him walk out of the cabin where the captain is?

[silentstalker65]

this IS NOT fun

[Shadowscale]

get caught way to easy, guards never reset to unalerted state. crouching seems to do nothing

[Maripop]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shadowscale"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shadowscale said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379101#post-6379101" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">get caught way to easy, guards never reset to unalerted state. crouching seems to do nothing</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Make sure to close the cell after you leave! Leaving it open increases everyone's awareness.

[jasonx]

This must be one of the most exciting zones since forever. It's nice to see a change of perspective and doing things a little more different.

[endlesslove]

This is rediculus, I get to the rope, try to grap rope and still get blown off and sent back to the beginning, that's wrong, I worked hard to get to that point. there should be a half way point for most. and most are 60+ yrs and have held a gold account since day one of this game, that should count for something. and when you log off you should be put back where u left off. just my opinion. sigh....... hoping things could get easier in days ahead....

[endlesslove]

I've done both the billy and the visage of kale, sigh I might take your advice and try the fae illusion as well. thanks

[endlesslove]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Mezaka"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Mezaka said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379197#post-6379197" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">It takes some timing and patience, yes, but it is doable.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />I have a suggestion though - you might want to either decrease the radius of the brigands a little bit, or, make the geometry clip a little less - me kerran kept getting caught on the railing up above and the only way she could get around it without getting caught was to shrink to a smaller size using fae illusion. I'm not sure how the other larger characters are fairing with that turn.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />well I got all 3 illusions going and it don't help. visage of kael, moppet billy, and I turned my self into a ratonga, cause they didn't have fae petrified stones. sigh..... I am going to give up and get a refund, na I cant give up but I wont be able to play this new xpac, doesn't do something about these guards

[Sydnye]

I just want to see the new zones /cry I want off this boat! lol. I must say I did have to log off a bit it became annoying fast! I love questing really I do, but the puzzle things and sneaking around im terrible at. Will try again later.

[Mezaka]

Granted, I have not gotten as far with testing as I would have liked, so maybe this question has already been answered:<br /> <br />Anyway we can get and keep that crate illusion? <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Terrius]

I just wanted to say, this zone is my favorite in a long time! It's nice having something a bit challenging but not overly ridiculous. I loved the rat! I also loved kicking the lookouts... Probably more than I should have!<br /><br />Also +1 to getting a permanent box illusion!

[Stimps]

permanent ? where

[Alenna]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="endlesslove"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">endlesslove said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379239#post-6379239" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">well I got all 3 illusions going and it don't help. visage of kael, moppet billy, and I turned my self into a ratonga, cause they didn't have fae petrified stones. sigh..... I am going to give up and get a refund, na I cant give up but I wont be able to play this new xpac, doesn't do something about these guards</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>uh endless if I recall visage of kael makes your toon gigantic

[endlesslove]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Alenna"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Alenna said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379294#post-6379294" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">uh endless if I recall visage of kael makes your toon gigantic</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />actually it made me shrink, that is what I thought too, but on my toon, I shrink even more with the billy doll

[Faelynn]

Typo: when you first leave the brig, your character says:<br />"I better close this door when I leave. Don't need to give the guards and excuse to search for me."<br /> <br />That "and" in there needs to be either "an" or "any". "And" doesn't look right there.. classic case of a typo actually being another legitimate word and thus sneaking by spellcheck <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Faelynn]

When using certain abilities (such as illusion-bearing buffs, like spirit totem of the wolf), your character once again appears fully dressed - even if you have recovered nothing yet.

[Finora]

I'm going to have to say this is easily one of the most annoying zones I've had the pleasure of questing in since the Freeport city quest that required you to sneak around in one of the old burbs. <br /><br />I'm not all for steamrolling & I'm quite experienced at avoiding real mobs with low level characters to harvest shinies & raws for crafting, but whew, this one really is really getting to me and making me regret I have so many alt's who'll have to run through it (TWICE!) to see the new zones.

[Faelynn]

Agree on how this will be a real curse to altaholics. Don't suppose there's a chance this could be made to be like the quest for travelling to Scourge Wastes, and just be a once-per-account requirement?

[Chrol]

There was a fairly significant bug that caused guards to catch you when they should not have. That will be fixed after the next update. Also added some more clues to help point the way.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Faelynn"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Faelynn said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379429#post-6379429" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Typo: when you first leave the brig, your character says:<br />"I better close this door when I leave. Don't need to give the guards and excuse to search for me."<br /> <br />That "and" in there needs to be either "an" or "any". "And" doesn't look right there.. classic case of a typo actually being another legitimate word and thus sneaking by spellcheck <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Thanks, I'll get this fixed!

[Shadowscale]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chrol"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chrol said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379494#post-6379494" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">There was a fairly significant bug that caused guards to catch you when they should not have. That will be fixed after the next update. Also added some more clues to help point the way.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>alright, will wait for this to go in before trying anymore. getting caught by a guard with their back turned from quite a good distance while crouching multiple times and haveing to start over from begining was getting... repeditive... the guard in question is one nearby after watching the one with helm walk out of room, guard kinda mid deck, like is suposed to be a gap in sight between that guard and the one on the railing of non detection, but kept getting caught anyway. unless i missed something... again...

[Shadowscale]

also would like to say the guard at the top of the stairs near the front of the ship could use a bit of a sight reduction as well, or path further away from the top of steps. it feels like have to make the run from the cell door to the rope up top in one go, yet that causes to get caught with his back turned as well randomly.

[Faelynn]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chrol"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chrol said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379494#post-6379494" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">There was a fairly significant bug that caused guards to catch you when they should not have. That will be fixed after the next update.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Oh good. Spent quite awhile (seemed like 20-30 attempts) each time I had to get out of the brig, just trying to not get caught on the edge while their backs were supposedly turned... seemed to require miraculous timing to get past, each time. Certainly hope this is what is being referred to =)

[Mezaka]

It takes some timing and patience, yes, but it is doable.<br /> <br />I have a suggestion though - you might want to either decrease the radius of the brigands a little bit, or, make the geometry clip a little less - me kerran kept getting caught on the railing up above and the only way she could get around it without getting caught was to shrink to a smaller size using fae illusion. I'm not sure how the other larger characters are fairing with that turn.

[Finora]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Chrol"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Chrol said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379494#post-6379494" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">There was a fairly significant bug that caused guards to catch you when they should not have. That will be fixed after the next update. Also added some more clues to help point the way.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>That's good to hear because I spent an hour and a half last night just trying to get past the guards in every way I could possibly think of as well as trying the various suggestions of people who'd completed the quest before only to have them see me any way (with their backs turned halfway across the deck while I was a teeny tiny snake behind the crates). I'd only manage to get the grappling hook in all that time.

[Conifur]

After being frustrated at first I like this zone. Though the box was a bit lame and what a waste of good Rum. I was so happy you allowed me to boot that guy off the boat, I was standing there saying "I really want to throw someone overboard." Funny though how I can speak rat but have to spend hours searching for shinies so I can advance the Sig Quest later.

[endlesslove]

is there a way to get back to the boat. seems the queen has disappeared from site to port back, and I cant find the scroll or the rocks on the floor to do over? I wish there was a way to see the new zone with out going thru that sig zone. I am stuck.

[avashi]

Not sure if this is something to be reported or not, but it is an error. I'm on the boat, wearing, "Fabled Awakened Dreadguard Robe" in appearance slot, but the robe on the Captain has on is all white or colorless rather than red. That's it, no biggie <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" />

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shadowscale"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shadowscale said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379497#post-6379497" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">alright, will wait for this to go in before trying anymore. getting caught by a guard with their back turned from quite a good distance while crouching multiple times and haveing to start over from begining was getting... repeditive... the guard in question is one nearby after watching the one with helm walk out of room, guard kinda mid deck, like is suposed to be a gap in sight between that guard and the one on the railing of non detection, but kept getting caught anyway. unless i missed something... again...</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>This was the bug. If you left the brig door open and alerted the nearby guards, the ones outside the brig would detect you as you walk above them even if you were crouched.<br /> <br />Also, if you leave the brig door open and alert the pathing guard, that guard will continue to path the same, just be more cognizant of his surroundings. Same goes for the guard above the brig - he'll no longer path around either.<br /> <br />Speaking of the brig door - it'll be quicker to close when you open it. No more 3 second delay!<br /> <br />Oh, and the guard above the brig won't detect you while you're below him.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="avashi"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">avashi said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379635#post-6379635" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Not sure if this is something to be reported or not, but it is an error. I'm on the boat, wearing, "Fabled Awakened Dreadguard Robe" in appearance slot, but the robe on the Captain has on is all white or colorless rather than red. That's it, no biggie <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="BigGrin" /></span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>It's a tinted robe. The captain was wearing the base robe appearance.

[Tohopka]

HATE HATE HATE this. I'm a patient person but after a few attempts there is no way i can get to the rope always get caught, also I cant for the life of me remember how to crouch. i thought they made a ability but none and help brought up squat so I ended up quitting for the night.

[Anatha]

I started the tradeskill quest after going through as much of the adventure part as I could. I am unfortunately in my ascension illusion and can't turn it off due to the devs wanting to check things. Well, I am on the ship and can't see if I am crouched or not so I keep getting caught. This is frustrating. Maybe put some sort of text that says I am crouched so I know.

[Finora]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Anatha"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Anatha said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6379995#post-6379995" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I started the tradeskill quest after going through as much of the adventure part as I could. I am unfortunately in my ascension illusion and can't turn it off due to the devs wanting to check things. Well, I am on the ship and can't see if I am crouched or not so I keep getting caught. This is frustrating. Maybe put some sort of text that says I am crouched so I know.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br /> <br />I'm having this issue as well. I'm having less trouble than yesterday, but the mystery crouch is making things harder than it needs to be.<br /> <br />After playing with it a bit, it seems illusions are breaking crouch. Still frustrating even with that knowledge though!

[Hotlipth]

Feedback:<br />Love it, LOVE IT!!!<br />Not a fanboi response (so flamers go elsewhere) I just really enjoyed the entire sequence. Having to find the scroll and the crystal, imo pretty intuitive if one is familiar with EQ framework.<br />Would have liked to see more mobs in Spire.<br />Having to sneak/crouch my way to objectives was nice change of pace/twist. FYI as frustrating as it was to get kicked back to cell about 8 times, I would not change this part.

[Naneeje]

I had this same issue. I ran the zone as a tradeskiller first, then had to re-run it as an adventurer, but when I went to the same place, nothing came up. I had to knock out the slaver, grab my head gear, go back up to the spot I knew would show the blue sparklies... nothing. <br />When I went to the other side, they showed up and all was well again. This was my only issue with this zone.

[Shadowscale]

alright, got on and did it in one go this time. did have to pause a few times to figure out what was next but much better then last attempts

[Anatha]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Neiloch"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Neiloch said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6378750#post-6378750" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I got through it, but I'm rather annoyed stealth has no 'rules' to it, you have to figure out who can see you and when by trial and error. It won't be much of a problem once walkthroughs and what not are made, but still quite annoying. Two prime examples are the solo guard above your cell and the captain, apparently they can see things coming from a mile away on one side and oblivious to the other.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> Neiloch, I just stayed crouched the entire time. It was much easier to get through that way...slower....but easier.

[Iglu]

I had to have help with the part where you have to climb the rigging. Turned out that the blue sparkles did not appear until I was at exactly the right spot. Once they appeared you could see them from the other end of the ship. Possible scripting issue or just graphic card related.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Allumette"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Allumette said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380259#post-6380259" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">My efforts to think outside the box have thus far been unsuccessful.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Think inside the box...

[Allumette]

Having finally - FINALLY! - made it off that confounded ship, I am genuinely unsure whether I loved or hated the entire experience. (I have a feeling it will be much less painful next time around, mind you.)

[Merriel]

Kunark Ascending: The Frillik Tide - I was working on this early this morning when the server was brought down for maintenance. I was in the process of trying to escape the ship, but was unable to complete it due to the maintenance. I had obtained the pick and rope and had made it to the point of climbing into the empty crate, and that's as far as I got before the server came down.<br /><br />When I logged back in this afternoon, I had been kicked from the instance on the ship, back to the Thalumbra portal entrance to the Arcann'sae (sp?). I re-entered the Arcann'sae, went back up to the top floor, spoke with the Queen, and was captured and put back into the cell on the ship. Unfortunately, there was no captain for me to dialogue with, the other prisoner in the cell did not go through his dialogue to bring out the rat, and I was given no option to re-obtain the keys with which to open the cell. Upon checking my inventory I also noted the pick and rope were no longer there either.<br /> <br />(Copied and pasted the portion that applies to this zone here, as per Kaitheel's advice that I report this particular part of the problem I had, into this thread.)<br /> <br />It seems that if a person loses their zone as I did, that perhaps when they are ported back into the jail cell, they re-start the quest at the step where they go through the dialogue with the captain, so that they are able to get the keys again so they can escape from the cell. I would rather restart at this point than have to do as I did and delete the quest and start all the way back at the beginning again.

[Allumette]

I don't suppose anyone might want to give me a teeny tiny hint on the 'distraction' that will allow me to pursue my purloined headgear, would they? My efforts to think outside the box have thus far been unsuccessful.

[Chrol]

Merriel, when you leave the ship for whatever reason, the quest should revert back to a point where you can speak to the iksar slave and progress as normal. However, as that doesn't appear to work 100% of time, I'll see about adding an extra check on the iksar slave to get you and any others stuck in a similar situation progressing through the ship.

[Altaholic]

Thanks in advance for any input,<br />Im on the ship, see the crate, see the text about causing a distraction. Someone in chat said something about spilling and burning wine but I cant find where to get that. Ive tried clicking and hovering for clickies everywhere. I enjoy the challenge but I seem to be stuck. Its probably something obvious but I don't seem to see it.<br />Please and Thanks

[Soolapuhuja]

Main bug:i deleted te Frillik Tide (wanted to redo it),now all sig line is gone,cant retake it,no npc involved from start wont talk to me anymore.(Queen in Kelething,Thalumbra npc-s.No portal to zone for me)

[Merriel]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Soolapuhuja"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Soolapuhuja said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6380722#post-6380722" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Main bug:i deleted te Frillik Tide (wanted to redo it),now all sig line is gone,cant retake it,no npc involved from start wont talk to me anymore.(Queen in Kelething,Thalumbra npc-s.No portal to zone for me)</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div> <br />Did you delete your mail giving you the initial quest? I deleted the quest too and the only way I could restart it was to re-take it from the mail. I tried speaking to Queen Cristanos first, but she did not re-offer me the quest either. Once I re-opened the mail and re-accepted the quest, I was able to speak to her again. This is exactly why I don't delete quest mail until I've completed the quest that pertains to it. <img src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" />

[Tohopka]

maybe try and go to isle of mara and talk to the guy by dock just across from ToT portal (wish i could remember name) and see if he has a extra copy of the mail for you.

[Soolapuhuja]

yes i deleted mail,i think

[Finora]

Evil adventurer portal is in Neriak. The mara one (as far as I know) only shows up if you've done the crafting quests, on the live servers anyway. I haven't copied over anyone yet who isn't also a crafter who's finished the ToT crafting quests.

[Soolapuhuja]

I will check near portals.Otherwise would be nice.if possible reset Dirgah (Thurgadin toon) adventure signature.As i finished TS available timeline.I think...got to daily and weekly quests state,just havent done them yet.I suppose its either end of current beta stage TS timeline,or very near.

[Soolapuhuja]

I have for some reason no ToT tinkered portal in Mara at all (evil character),got mine from Kelethin.

[Finora]

I did this quest this morning and it was SO much better than it was last time.<br /><br />There still seems to be a problem with the blue shiny "use this" indicators showing up though. I checked one area because it made sense but saw nothing, so went quite far from it looking for the next step. I happened to turn back around and the sparkles showed up from a distance. I went back over and had no trouble finishing up, but they were certainly not there when I initially was looking. I want to note it is not a graphics setting issue, other sparkles showed up fine and after spotting them from a distance those particular sparkles showed up fine as well. It was just an initial lag I guess in their showing up.

[Xianthia]

<i>(I can't seem to quote at the moment, server didn't respond)</i><br /> <br />The blue sparkles do seem to show up once you are close to them. I've done the quest multiple times now so I know now where to go, but if were doing quest for the first time the sparkles won't be helpful since you have to be close/near for them to be visible.

[Tohopka]

That's my bad I'm so sorry. Just use to using mara and not the other two.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Finora"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Finora said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6381257#post-6381257" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">I did this quest this morning and it was SO much better than it was last time.<br /> <br />There still seems to be a problem with the blue shiny "use this" indicators showing up though. I checked one area because it made sense but saw nothing, so went quite far from it looking for the next step. I happened to turn back around and the sparkles showed up from a distance. I went back over and had no trouble finishing up, but they were certainly not there when I initially was looking. I want to note it is not a graphics setting issue, other sparkles showed up fine and after spotting them from a distance those particular sparkles showed up fine as well. It was just an initial lag I guess in their showing up.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>Spoiler:<span style="color: #ffeedd"> The only blue sparkles that show up when you get close is the rigging that takes you up to the crow's nest. In fact the clicky isn't clickable till you get close enough. I also extended the range on it so you don't have to get too up close and personal with the rigging to trigger it.</span>

[Soolapuhuja]

Well,got new letter from Mara,retake adv signature,seems ok...

[Elinea]

I may have stumbled onto a bug with the ascension illusion and keybinds. I ran through the tradeskill quest line first, and had no problems with crouching when I needed to. After finishing the tradeskill quests, I started on the adventuring side, and decided to test out the ascension class while I was at it (Thaumaturgist). I kept getting spotted while crouching in the illusion form, so I canceled the ascension spell and did it as my normal Fae self.<br /> <br />Guess what? Still wasn't crouching. I looked at my keybinds, and it was set to "z" for crouch, but pressing it did exactly nothing. I had to clear my keybind, made sure the "z" key wasn't being used for another bind at the same time, and reset it to "z" and then I could crouch. The only difference between the first time I ran it, and the second time, was I had used the class ascension spell before going through the boat the second time. <br /> <br />I'm wondering if people are hitting their crouch key, thinking they are crouching when they actually aren't.

[Chrol]

Thanks Elinea, this crouching bug has been reported to code.

[Shmogre]

Hi Chrol - If it helps, I've just now run into the "can't crouch" issue as well, also with the Ascension buff running when the instance started. Cancelling the buff and clearing then remapping the "z" key didn't work; it took getting captured and thrown back in the brig to get the crouch working again.

[Maripop]

Ugh running an alt through I found a new spot on this ship that seems messed up I keep dying for jumping in water and I am no where near the water <br /> <br />If you try and fall/jump down from top of steps at: 19.27, 17.84, 6.44 to the spot behind the stairs : 12.90, 11.84, 5.16 it kills you and says "Best not jump in the water"

[Wuulf]

need some help with crouching to get across the mast .. in my movement options, it shows to use shift+c .. doesn't work, i've been told to use z which doesn't work .. have reset to defaults and gives me the shift c again .. on top of that, x does not work for sitting .. I am in the binding of stone illusion, is this a problem? cause I can't seem to drop it either

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Wuulf"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Wuulf said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383579#post-6383579" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">need some help with crouching to get across the mast .. in my movement options, it shows to use shift+c .. doesn't work, i've been told to use z which doesn't work .. have reset to defaults and gives me the shift c again .. on top of that, x does not work for sitting .. I am in the binding of stone illusion, is this a problem? cause I can't seem to drop it either</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>You should still be considered crouching, noticeable by the speed at which you move, but since many illusions don't have the crouching animation it can be difficult to tell. You should be able to cancel the illusion from your effects window.

[Chrol]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Maripop"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Maripop said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383433#post-6383433" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Ugh running an alt through I found a new spot on this ship that seems messed up I keep dying for jumping in water and I am no where near the water<br /> <br />If you try and fall/jump down from top of steps at: 19.27, 17.84, 6.44 to the spot behind the stairs : 12.90, 11.84, 5.16 it kills you and says "Best not jump in the water"</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>It's happening on the stairs on the other side as well. Forwarding this issue to art. Thanks!

[CoLD MeTaL]

Is it meant that we have to do the brig 'twice', once for adventure and again for tradeskill?

[CoLD MeTaL]

Also you can't 'crouch' when in an ascension form. That's probably only a problem on beta where you can get the scroll before the zone, but it complicates things.

[Thorigarn]

can your toon please repeat any messages that are spoken to the player if they player makes the given mistake? For example - I did not realize my toon was talking me through the zone, got caught a dozen times and stepped away for a while. When I came back, internet searches got me to note that I needed to crouch, but it would have been nice if the toon repeated the text for mistakes I made during the zone.<br /> <br />Hope that makes sense, though I think it's also a fair thought that we should get a quest or exp reward for something that players may invest significant time on. Seems like the co-captive should give a quest so that you get a little something for your time?

[Chrol]

The Frillik Tide will be optional. See Kander's post <a href="https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/boat-section.573015/page-2#post-6382948" class="internalLink">here</a>.

[Shmogre]

I'm getting a "no permission" message on that link, Chrol. Are ogres not allowed in?

[Chrol]

In case anyone can't click the link, here's what Kander posted:<br /> <br />"We are taking measures to make the boat experience optional for the signature quest line. The boat will however be required to earn end expansion triumphs and best in slot loot.<br /> <br />We want to assure that the majority of the expansion is not gated to those who simply cannot or will not do the boat experience."

[Grouse]

OK--Dummy time here. How is a large, barbarian monk supposed to "crouch". There isn't a /crouch command and she doesn't have any stealth capabilities. I even toggled "crouching tiger" to see if that would help. <br /> <br />Shift-C (mentioned above) opens the Character window, but low and behold, "z" works! I've been playing since EQII beta and don't ever remember needing/using that option. Not sure how you can add a clue for the clueless, like me, but it might be helpful.

[Shmogre]

Yeah, my first instinct was /crouch as well. When that didn't work, I went into my keymappings in Options and found "z". Chrol, maybe /crouch could be added as a way to toggle crouching as well? I know messing with code isn't that simple, but it might help make it more straightforward and less reliant on people's keymappings?

[Noctew]

<div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeQuote" data-author="Shmogre"> <aside> <div class="attribution type">Shmogre said: <a href="index.php?goto/post&id=6383908#post-6383908" class="AttributionLink">↑</a> </div> <blockquote><span class="ae_quote_symbol">“</span><span class="ae_quote_content">Shift-C (mentioned above) opens the Character window, but low and behold, "z" works! I've been playing since EQII beta and don't ever remember needing/using that option.</span><span class="ae_quote_symbol">”</span></blockquote> </aside></div>I think it used to be C or Shift-C until The Great Keymap Change several years ago when it was moved to Z to free C for character which used to be I for inventory...or something like that. But the crouch mechanic has been used several times in recent expansions. Highkeep for example where you have to duck behind a counter so AEs won't hit you or one of the Kralet zones where you have to keep your head below a poison cloud created by the boss mob.<br /> <br />But I agree, crouch should be more obvious. It could for example be put in the Abilities section along with the Walk/Run toggle.

[Lojaak]

Just copied over to start my Beta experience, and I found the Frillik Tide a lot of fun! Bit frustrated in the middle as I kept getting caught, but I was rushing and not watching what I was doing. When I focused and did everything correctly, it went really well.<br /> <br />Few cosmetic issues though - When I came out of crate disguise by cancelling the buff from the maintained spells window, and also when you are on the ziplines, I found that all of my armor was visible. I had no illusions on (I always disable them), but I do wear appearance armor. The rest of the time my character was correctly down to no armor. Character is copied over as Lojainx.<br /> <br />Additionally, on one of the /say hints, there is no period or other punctuation when the character says about creating a distraction. I think the text is something like "Too many slavers I'll have to create a distraction" - there should be at least a comma in there, if not a period.