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Carouz
01-27-2007, 02:39 AM
<DIV>i play solo a lot and make heavy use of both these mez spells</DIV> <DIV>my Scared Still is master i and my Instill Panic is adept iii</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i know that hitting a mezzed mob will likely break the mez</DIV> <DIV>and i know that a DoT will also likely break the mez</DIV> <DIV>what i dont understand is why Instill Panic is so much more reliable than Scared Still</DIV> <DIV>and i can assure u after thousands of uses that Instill Panic is resisted much less often and is broken much less often</DIV> <DIV>i would have expected the opposite given that my Scared Still is a master and Instill Panic an adept</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>typical scenario #1</DIV> <DIV>i engage a group of 3 mobs</DIV> <DIV>after hitting the group with my AoEs, i then use Scared Still on one mob, Instill Panic on another, and focus on killing the third</DIV> <DIV>the vast majority of the time, Scared Still will break long before Instill Panic (even taking into consideration that the mob i used Instill Panic on has to run back to me)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>typical scenario #2</DIV> <DIV>i engage a named</DIV> <DIV>i grind down their health a bit, then cast Scared Still (the safer of the 2 mez spells, as it won't result in adds) to buy a bit of time for my arts to recharge</DIV> <DIV>the Scared Still is resisted or broken within a second or two, and then i cast Instill Panic</DIV> <DIV>it typically works fine</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i know some of u r thinking that i am being dumb and somehow breaking the Scared Still mez</DIV> <DIV>and perhaps i am, but i don't see how</DIV> <DIV>prior to using the spell, i turn autoattack off, and the instant i use the spell i back away from the mob and untarget the mob</DIV> <DIV>by untargeting the mob i am eliminating the chance of a proc breaking the mez</DIV> <DIV>not sure what else i can possibly do</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and yes, sometimes it's a DoT that breaks the mez</DIV> <DIV>but those same dots arent breaking Instill Panic at nearly the same frequency</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>any thoughts on how i might change my approach to get better results from Scared Still?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Shock</DIV> <DIV>70 Bruiser</DIV> <DIV>The Bazaar</DIV>

Ameniel
01-27-2007, 03:31 AM
<P>I have the same setup on my bruiser, scared still at M1 and instill panic at ad3. I play on a pvp server, and actually have not hardly used these spells on mobs at all, but generally in pvp. </P> <P>First off, DoTs will not break scared still, at least they shouldnt...this is also in the CA description. If it stuck on an opponent it stuck for the whole 13 sec(I have the AA that increases it from 10 up to 13 max). But now pve mobs are different, i dunno if due to maybe them being heroic or what not the duration may be lessened....not sure. </P> <P>Strangely enough though, I notice in pvp instill panic gets resisted a lot less than scared still. I thought since that one was a M1 it would not get resisted much, but it actually does(then again in t7 most ppl have decent resists). But, its much easier to break scared still because it only takes 1 hit of direct dmg to break it, whereas with instill panic theres only a 30% chance it will be broken when dmg is taken. </P>

Zelkova
01-27-2007, 03:44 AM
Can't imagine why your scared still doesn't land as often as instill panic, but since scared still is a mez it will guarantee to break on damage, instill panic only has a chance to break so you can often hit the mob without it breaking.Also, there is no periodic resist check on scared still so there is no reason for it to wear off early.<div></div>

Zelkova
01-27-2007, 03:47 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Doomhand wrote:<div></div> <p>First off, DoTs will not break scared still, at least they shouldnt...this is also in the CA description. </p><hr></blockquote>Is that a PvP thing? DoTs break scared still 100% of the time on mobs, there is zero chance it will not break on any damage, even power drain.</div>

Carouz
01-27-2007, 05:51 AM
<P>thanks all for your replies</P> <P>u r right, the answer is staring me in the face</P> <P>Scared Still's description says "dispells when target takes damage", Instill Panic's description says "30% chance to dispel when target takes damage"</P>

Ameniel
01-27-2007, 09:29 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> brekehan wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Doomhand wrote:<BR> <P>First off, DoTs will not break scared still, at least they shouldnt...this is also in the CA description. </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Is that a PvP thing? DoTs break scared still 100% of the time on mobs, there is zero chance it will not break on any damage, even power drain.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>No that should apply to pve mobs as well, states in the description itself that it makes the target immune or not affected by DoT dmg while they're under the mezz...../shrug<BR>

Zelkova
01-27-2007, 10:18 PM
Like most mezzes, it removes the target from being affected by area of effect damage (AOE), however the tooltip (which I'm reading right now) says nothing about DoTs.As a simple test, just go kick a mob with blazing lunge, or whatever level version you have, then mez it and watch it break on the next tick of damage.<div></div>

tt66
01-29-2007, 06:27 PM
As well as DOTs, I believe that an unlocked AOE will also break a mez. So make sure you've toggled-off crane-twirl!<div></div>