Average parse....group and raid?

[Truebow]

Like the subject says  Im just trying to get some feedback on what other bruisers out there are parsing.Im a 68 bruiser that came back to the game and when I duo with my conj buddy I usually parse around a 600-760 range. So thats basicly self buffed since he dosnt add much to my dps except when i get lucky and he remembers to give me fire seed. I dont have that great of gear besides my staff of flapping wing and just have 448 int and 42 sta atm. So just trying to get a fix on if im about where i should be in dps or if im just a button masher <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Also what i should be parsing once i get back to raidingNucca Plz-68 Bruiser Guk<div></div>

[ganjookie]

what are you killing for that dps?you should state that as I can kill greys all day long and parse 3k.<div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Truebow wrote:<BR>Like the subject says  Im just trying to get some feedback on what other bruisers out there are parsing.<BR><BR>Im a 68 bruiser that came back to the game and when I duo with my conj buddy I usually parse around a 600-760 range. So thats basicly self buffed since he dosnt add much to my dps except when i get lucky and he remembers to give me fire seed. I dont have that great of gear besides my staff of flapping wing and just have 448 int and 42 sta atm. So just trying to get a fix on if im about where i should be in dps or if im just a button masher <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Also what i should be parsing once i get back to raiding<BR><BR><BR>Nucca Plz-68 Bruiser Guk<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>ummm 4 4 8 int and 4 2 sta with a 2 hander getting 600-760 dps ? im assuming on non heroics ?

[Devast]

ive actually seen a couple bruisers in my guild parse 600-800 with that same staff in a labs raid. im str/sta/int right now until i can get some nice fabled, but perhaps damage nerf in eof really did make a difference. i only parse 400-700 with fists in most cases.<div></div>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV>yea but my point was he has like 20 + aa points and is doing that damage at lvl 68 in labs ? should be more around 400-500 MAX iimo .. /shrug ah well nm :smileywink:</DIV>

[Truebow]

WOW.....u guys are riping me a new one!! I never said i was parsing that in a labs group either. That average parse was taking yesterday in the lvl 60+ heroic zone above Crushbone Keep, Acadecheism or whatever, so must heroics con blue. And the fights dont last that long since im with one of the if not the top ranking conj on my server...so maybe there is  reason im parsing higher than most. So neways what do u guys parse in raids on average?Nucca Plz- 68 Bruiser Guk<div></div>

[Cocytus]

<DIV>I generally parse 900-950 and go as high as 1.2k or so.</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Truebow wrote:<BR>WOW.....u guys are riping me a new one!! I never said i was parsing that in a labs group either. That average parse was taking yesterday in the lvl 60+ heroic zone above Crushbone Keep, Acadecheism or whatever, so must heroics con blue. And the fights dont last that long since im with one of the if not the top ranking conj on my server...so maybe there is  reason im parsing higher than most. So neways what do u guys parse in raids on average?<BR><BR><BR>Nucca Plz- 68 Bruiser Guk<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>wasnt ripping u at all my friend if you check my 2nd post it said im assuming against heroics :smileywink: thanks for the confirmation i kinda guessed so much </P> <P>Before EoF raid 1k ... after EoF 800-900 and thats pushing it .. just gotta work back some AA points :smileywink:</P>

[eyes007]

<P>All depends on who you have in your group I suppose, I generally have this to play with as they are close friends:</P> <P>Guardian (MT)</P> <P>Inquisitor +DPS buff 30</P> <P>Dirge +DPS buff 25</P> <P>Me (Bruiser) +DPS buff 25</P> <P>usually anyone</P> <P>usually anyone</P> <P>thats 80 to dps and with my rallos cloak that can hit 94 and with my dps gear on my dps just goes nuts, never any lower than 700 and generally higher than 1k (reached my highest last week at 1300dps althugh I'm sure thats modest with some super fabled people lol) and it isn't against green either, this is doing obelisk and crypt and in raids its slightly less, more like 800 or 900 as you have assassins and the like to compete with.</P> <P>It's not impossible, just depends on who you play with, don't have to be tricked out.</P>

[Morhaxvith]

<P>Well.. dunno about grp but was doing Freethinkers yesterday and I was never under 1k dps. Most often between 1,1k and 1,3k. With a top parse over 1,7k.</P> <P>In grp was me (bruiser)</P> <P>Zerker</P> <P>Dirge</P> <P>Inq</P> <P>and 2 more dps.</P> <P>That was a pretty good melee dps setup. </P> <P>Morx of Redemption, RE server</P>

[GinFan]

<DIV>My labs parse pre-EoF was regularly 650-750.  Typically, I do not get placed in a well built melee dps group as my guild is heavy with brawlers and light in utility atm.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This at level 70, about 45 aa in agi/int lines.  Gear 25% fabled, the rest legendary or mastercrafted (fist of bashing and velium claw).  On the rare occasion I get some buffs, I range 800-1k, with 1.2k my top parse (again this was labs pre-EoF).  I'll try to remember to edit once I get more post-EoF data.</DIV><p>Message Edited by GinFan on <span class=date_text>11-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:13 AM</span>

[Truebow]

<div></div>OK so I hit 69 and went back to acadacheism with my conjour buddy and he put up the parse again...this time my dps never dropped below 700 and my highest was a 998 on one of the names in there and that was with master I KO Combonation up. Now that I'm 69 most of the heroics in there are just greening out with some still conning blue. So with the numbers and feedback you guys are giving me I guess im about on par with the rest of you...thanks for the response. Once i get 70 I'll start raiding again and hopefully see some good numbers there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Nucca Plz-69 Bruiser Guk<div></div><p>Message Edited by Truebow on <span class=date_text>11-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:14 AM</span>

[RomparStomp]

<DIV>Usually in a decent dps group on  a raid I parse inbetween 1.2 and 1.8k dps topped 2k one time in Lyceum..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>75aa's speced all dps </DIV>

[djinnz]

<P>conj are great for adding dps, they have a proc buff they put on the bruiser that fires an awful lot, ember seed i think is name something around the 500 mark for damage.</P> <P>id be real interested to see whats the best dps buff grp you could get for a bruiser, my thinking would be somthing like</P> <P>bruiser: obviously</P> <P>inquister: out of all the healers prob get the most mellee type buffs, can stun self and add nice haste</P> <P>dirge: dps buff and all that other bardly goodness that no one understands but everyone loves</P> <P>conj: proc buff</P> <P>illusionist: haste</P> <P>coercer: dps buff, and proc for deagro and damage on every hit</P> <P> </P> <P>i would think that would easily get you max dps and haste, only problem is no real quality str buffs, maybe swap out the illusionist for a zerker (biggest str buff?) </P> <P> </P>

[deadsidedemon]

<P>Bruiser DPS is highly dependent on group makeup.  It's fun when you have the right people on and can sit around 1.2+k  ... but when you get stuck in the short bus you'll scrap to get half that.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[chOgg]

When I first read this thread a few days ago, I went home all upset that my parses were pitiful.  I was averaging around 300.  I have 34 or so AAs and a rare crafted 2H staff with mostly adept 1 spells.  I thought that my gear and spells were a little low, but to be at HALF where I should be was depressing.So, I started re-arranging my hotbar a little.  I found that I wasn't making the best use of my knockdowns for the CAs that can do extra damage.  I also realized that I play in defensive or mixed stance a lot because I am usually tanking.Then I went up to Bonemire in offensive stance and fought even-con no-arrows one-at-a-time for a while and parsed on average around 750 with knockout combo and 650 without it.  I fought a white single up and parsed in the 500s.  I felt much better.I'm looking forward to amassing some decent gear and some masters once I reach 70.  It will be like EQ2 Part 2 for me.Thanks for listening.Thoral, 67 Bruiser, Mistmoore<div></div>

[ganjookie]

ch0gg we are here for you brotha<div></div>