Bruiser/Monk/Neither

[eq2NT]

<DIV>I got EQ2 two days ago.  As you can imagine, I am brand new.  I am drawn to brawlers, but I have studied the forums and see a bit of negativity about monks and bruisers.  I was wondering if you could please help me out with a few questions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(1) Should I make a monk or a bruiser?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(2) Should I make neither a monk nor a bruiser?  (I am not drawn to scouts and mages, in case you would like to advise another class.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>THANK YOU for all your help in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQ2NT</DIV>

[Gungo]

<P>Don't pay any attention at all to the negativity on the boards. A massively new expansion has just came out. With new skills and abilities and as such people tend to complain about what they WANT. So its not a good judgement of the class. In that regards both brawlers are fairly equal and extremelty fun. Choose what you like. </P> <P>I tend to like bruisers though because we are the best =P</P> <P>Enjoy the game its really came along way and this expansion is one of the best. </P><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:43 AM</span>

[ganjookie]

Bruiser!Monks tend to be wimps and cry when they punch rocks<div></div>

[Sir_Halbarad]

I think it all depends on your playstyle... well, the playstyle you think you are having.Brawlers in general are a great class. Very versatile. They can tank, they can dps, they can solo. But in each department, they aren't the best. If you want to be the best (raid) tank, roll a warrior -  if you want to be the best dps, roll a scout/mage - if you want to be the best soloer, roll a summoner (Necro, Conjurer) or a Coercer if you like a real challenge.From all the chars I have, my Bruiser is the most fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><div></div><p>Message Edited by Sir_Halbarad on <span class=date_text>11-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:22 PM</span>

[Odio]

<P>Bruisers are more of the self centered kind. As for a monk they help out the grp some.</P> <P>I have both but I favor my bruiser even after the EoF updates </P> <P>try them both out, you will find the one you like before lvl 20 and then go from there or if your like me play them both.</P> <P>~Odio</P> <P><Sabotage></P> <P>venekor</P>

[Dak]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eq2NT wrote:<BR> <DIV>I got EQ2 two days ago.  As you can imagine, I am brand new.  I am drawn to brawlers, but I have studied the forums and see a bit of negativity about monks and bruisers.  I was wondering if you could please help me out with a few questions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(1) Should I make a monk or a bruiser?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(2) Should I make neither a monk nor a bruiser?  (I am not drawn to scouts and mages, in case you would like to advise another class.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>THANK YOU for all your help in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>EQ2NT</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have both a bruiser and a monk, and I'll say there is a major difference. At start the bruiser is a fair amount stronger than the monk, but that quickly fades away. THe monk is easier to solo with, and a much more durable toon. The BNruiser takes more damage and is harder to keep up than the monk is. In effect compairing my monk (lvl 27) to my Bruiser (lvl 24) there is a big difference; the bruiser is not as durible as the monk is, and harder to keep going. Although I play both bare handed, I may have to start equiping my bruiser so he can do more damage and maybe kill more before he gets killed.</P> <P> </P>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dakwa wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I have both a bruiser and a monk, and I'll say there is a major difference. At start the bruiser is a fair amount stronger than the monk, but that quickly fades away. THe monk is easier to solo with, and a much more durable toon. The BNruiser takes more damage and is harder to keep up than the monk is. In effect compairing my monk (lvl 27) to my Bruiser (lvl 24) there is a big difference; the bruiser is not as durible as the monk is, and harder to keep going. Although I play both bare handed, I may have to start equiping my bruiser so he can do more damage and maybe kill more before he gets killed.<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ? clearly you have no idea so begone from the brusier forums before we slap you down !</P> <P>1 ) Soloability Bruiser is much better than monk , we have mez , fear , ko combo , close mind , fd and our heal is on a faster rescast than the monks one.</P> <P>2) Durability - Umm bruiser has better mitigation but slightly lower avoidance to offset that BUT we get a miti bosst buff and anyone will tell you  a bruiser tanks better than a monk any day of the week.</P> <P>3) your comparing a 27 Monk to a 24 Bruiser - hmmm enough said ...</P> <P>4) Bruiser DOEST DIE , you dont understand ? well let me explain it to ya .. we kick fkn [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and chew through mobs like a freight train ! we do more burst damage initially and if the mob manages to survive a KO blow and Chain CA burst then mez the target to let our cas refresh and then we lay the smack down on its sorry [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ....</P>

[Dak]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkMirrax wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><BR>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ? clearly you have no idea so begone from the brusier forums before we slap you down !</P> <P>1 ) Soloability Bruiser is much better than monk , we have mez , fear , ko combo , close mind , fd and our heal is on a faster rescast than the monks one.</P> <P>2) Durability - Umm bruiser has better mitigation but slightly lower avoidance to offset that BUT we get a miti bosst buff and anyone will tell you  a bruiser tanks better than a monk any day of the week.</P> <P>3) your comparing a 27 Monk to a 24 Bruiser - hmmm enough said ...</P> <P>4) Bruiser DOEST DIE , you dont understand ? well let me explain it to ya .. we kick fkn [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and chew through mobs like a freight train ! we do more burst damage initially and if the mob manages to survive a KO blow and Chain CA burst then mez the target to let our cas refresh and then we lay the smack down on its sorry [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ....</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>WIth only app IV's I could solo all of nec with my Monk at lvl 24, and have to becareful with my bruiser with Adepts and masters. at the same lvl. My monk was soloing lvl 27-28 at lvl 22-24 and my bruiser better equiped can only solo 1-2 lvls above him. Sorry not seeing it.</P> <P> </P>

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dakwa wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DarkMirrax wrote:<BR> <BR> <P><BR>[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ? clearly you have no idea so begone from the brusier forums before we slap you down !</P> <P>1 ) Soloability Bruiser is much better than monk , we have mez , fear , ko combo , close mind , fd and our heal is on a faster rescast than the monks one.</P> <P>2) Durability - Umm bruiser has better mitigation but slightly lower avoidance to offset that BUT we get a miti bosst buff and anyone will tell you  a bruiser tanks better than a monk any day of the week.</P> <P>3) your comparing a 27 Monk to a 24 Bruiser - hmmm enough said ...</P> <P>4) Bruiser DOEST DIE , you dont understand ? well let me explain it to ya .. we kick fkn [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] and chew through mobs like a freight train ! we do more burst damage initially and if the mob manages to survive a KO blow and Chain CA burst then mez the target to let our cas refresh and then we lay the smack down on its sorry [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ....</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>WIth only app IV's I could solo all of nec with my Monk at lvl 24, and have to becareful with my bruiser with Adepts and masters. at the same lvl. My monk was soloing lvl 27-28 at lvl 22-24 and my bruiser better equiped can only solo 1-2 lvls above him. Sorry not seeing it.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>then be happy with your monk and dont dis the bruiser hell at 16/18 i was farming WC , 25/27 FG and 32 Rov ...care to post what equiptment/stats you have on both toons atm so we can offer a little advice on how to own your monk :smileywink:

[jonnyviolence]

<P>first up welcome aboard!</P> <P> </P> <P>if this is your first MMO get out now while you still can!!   <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>brusiers are such a fun class to play and if you want to get away with murder and just say " well im a bruiser, what do you expect??" then get stuck in mate!!</P> <P> </P> <P>if you want to make daisy chain necklaces and probably wear a blouse or other ladies clothes the yay go monk ;p</P> <P> </P> <P>in terms of playing we (and to be fair the monks possibly too) get some really cool moves that never fail to impress someone the first time they see 'em.  we get devastation fist which will kill most not heroic enemies in one punch, which if your lucky will get you called a cheat from passers by and a cool teleport into the enemy from range , kick em in the ball then zoom back out. confuses the hell out of group mates, they all run in after you then have to run back.</P> <P> </P> <P>much lolage</P> <P> </P> <P>i have tried templar, paladin, wizard, beserker and swashie to varying levels and i have just REALLY enjoyed my time as a bruiser.</P> <P> </P> <P>im sure monks are probably good fun to, but dammit we are just [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] nasty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] kickin son'o'[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]es.</P> <P> </P> <P>if in doubt, kick em in the junk!!</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>oh and i forgot having safe fall and fiegn death is a such a bonus also.......and roll an iksar if you didnt already because we am teh [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</P><p>Message Edited by jonnyviolence on <span class=date_text>11-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:38 PM</span>

[Odio]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I'd have to agree with DarkMirrax  mainly due to the angryness that is emited from the reply :smileywink:</P> <P>but i have both at the higher lvls and YES a bruiser will solo better even after the EoF "love"</P> <P>~Odio</P> <P><Sabotage></P> <P>venekor</P> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Dak]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jonnyviolence wrote:<BR> <P>first up welcome aboard!</P> <P> </P> <P>if this is your first MMO get out now while you still can!!   <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>brusiers are such a fun class to play and if you want to get away with murder and just say " well im a bruiser, what do you expect??" then get stuck in mate!!</P> <P> </P> <P>if you want to make daisy chain necklaces and probably wear a blouse or other ladies clothes the yay go monk ;p</P> <P> </P> <P>in terms of playing we (and to be fair the monks possibly too) get some really cool moves that never fail to impress someone the first time they see 'em.  we get devastation fist which will kill most not heroic enemies in one punch, which if your lucky will get you called a cheat from passers by and a cool teleport into the enemy from range , kick em in the ball then zoom back out. confuses the hell out of group mates, they all run in after you then have to run back.</P> <P> </P> <P>much lolage</P> <P> </P> <P>i have tried templar, paladin, wizard, beserker and swashie to varying levels and i have just REALLY enjoyed my time as a bruiser.</P> <P> </P> <P>im sure monks are probably good fun to, but dammit we are just [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] nasty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] kickin son'o'[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]es.</P> <P> </P> <P>if in doubt, kick em in the junk!!</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>oh and i forgot having safe fall and fiegn death is a such a bonus also.......and roll an iksar if you didnt already because we am teh [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]</P> <P>Message Edited by jonnyviolence on <SPAN class=date_text>11-25-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>12:38 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I tried the bruiser to see just how well he did compaired to the monk. I like the ability of playing with no weapons and kicking some [Removed for Content]... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I will agree that I might be doing something wrong, but just don't see where. My Bruiser is better equiped than my Monk, yet my Monk severly out does my bruiser.</P> <P>I find myself healing my bruiser much more than my Monk even though he does heal  better than my Monk, my Monk usually uses her heal for party members more than herself</P> <P>Some examples of the two, Rapid Hit adept3 up to 45 damage (bruiser), mantise app 4 up to 35 (monk). The monk gets more of these in than the Bruiser, the Bruiser has more resisted and parried than the Monk.</P> <P>The forward punch Cannot remember the names, but both at master II, Bruiser is parried 60%, Monk parried 20%.</P> <P>Forward kick (again don't remember the name) Bruiser adeptIII Parried 50% Monk App4 Parried 35%.</P> <P>%'s are rough estimates not exact, trying my best to show the differences not doing exact stats.</P> <P> </P>