From Monk>Brawler (?)

[FallenFeather]

Hello, I'm a Monk 67 and I'm soon starting  to join t7 raids with guild, since the guild allready got 4 high Monks and no high lvl bruiser I have been thinking about changing my Monk in to a bruiser, but not sure how the bruiser class works. So what I was wondering about is this;- Whats the biggest difference between a monk and a bruiser, and, how would a bruiser be to solo tough stuff ( have heard about a few Monks that have solo'ed HoF) K thx bb<div></div>

[ganjookie]

less stuttering from Bruisers and more backbone...:p<div></div>

[Illustrious]

<P>Monks solo HoF? now that i would like to see. </P> <P>I think you heard wrong i cant see how any brawler could ever come even close to solo HoF, the first few blue mobs maybe but certainly no further.  If im wrong someone plse tell what the hell gear/AA lines they got because i know i could never solo it myself thats for sure!!</P> <P> </P> <P>Im a monk but i would have to agree that bruisers make better solo players mainly due to higher burst dps and a mezz to wait on recharge of high hitting CAs.</P><p>Message Edited by Illustrious on <span class=date_text>10-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:59 PM</span>

[ganjookie]

<div></div><span>[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ty<span>[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]</span><span>[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]</span></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by ganjookie on <span class=date_text>10-03-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:27 PM</span>

[FallenFeather]

<div></div>No I'm pretty sure I got it right,  but anyhow- Thanks for the fast replies, think I'm going brawler<div></div>

[chOgg]

Another thread that has great info on the difference between monks and bruisers:<a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=21461" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=21461</a>Thoral, 58 Bruiser, Mistmoore<div></div>

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>You know, I'm just gonna step out on a limb here and say out loud that NO SUBCLASS CAN SOLO HoF. I dont care if youre some root/snaring Flaming-Vile-grabbing-while-giving-Sothis-the-beatdown superfreak. Aint happenin'!</FONT></DIV>

[Wildfury77]

<P>Not quite true......An Eternal Chaos swashie on Befallen - solo'd Frankie alledgedly......LOL!!!</P> <P>Then again he has the best items in the game for that class.</P><p>Message Edited by Wildfury77 on <span class=date_text>10-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:17 PM</span>

[Dalema]

<FONT color=#ff66cc></FONT><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wildfury77 wrote:<BR> <P>Not quite true......An Eternal Chaos swashie on Befallen - solo'd Frankie alledgedly......LOL!!!</P> <P>Then again he has the best items in the game for that class.</P> <P>Message Edited by Wildfury77 on <SPAN class=date_text>10-04-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:17 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#ff66cc>gonna have to throw up the BS flag on this and the brawler soloing HOF, its not happening maybe after eof with more gear aa's ect but even now full fable its not gonna happen</FONT><BR>

[Wildfury77]

Before you do that look up SNARK on Befallen server on the character search.....

[Sco]

<P>I was happy with myself for soloing the level 70^ ^ ^ that guard some of the bird baths in poa for the glowies for star to unlock.  I kept trying to fd avoid them and it didnt work so I engaged and took it down pretty easy.....didnt really seem like some of the level 67-69's i have tried, they were much harder.</P> <P> </P> <P>Marasmus of Mistmoore</P> <P>Hail *NOR/</P>

[Gungo]

<DIV>Soloing all of HoF i doubt. Maybe a bruiser could solo the first named. Would be a pain though and take a long time. Would have to mezz/fear named burn 1 add then flop. rinse and repeat. Then pull the named solo debuff alot and burn hard. Be good to see peopel try.</DIV>

[ganjookie]

I think it could be done if your not some dumby troll or ogre..oops sorry gungo <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Thail]

<div></div>I think I'll give it a whirl. Never know. I doubt I will get far.Ya, no way. With Debilate.... I mean they cast it every time. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Thail on <span class=date_text>10-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:29 AM</span>

[Pnaxx]

<P>Lol Thail!:smileytongue:</P> <P>That is great.......instant gratification for me. Nice try though.</P>

[Quicksilver74]

<DIV>I think it might have been possible for a bruiser to solo HoF awhile back when we could keep mob's mezzed and feared pretty much ALL the time, but now theres no way in hell a bruiser or any brawler coudl do it.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   I think the OP may be a little confused.   Brawlers can SOLO their way THROUGH Halls of Fate....  like train to an area to pick up a book for a quest....  but cannot kill all the named mobs in the zone no way.  </DIV>

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>I have seen a Warden and a Wizard together root/nuke Doom Lord Septimus to death. But Sothis? And taking care of the adds? Maybe if you were a coercer and pitted the named against each other to beat em down...but still!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>I still dont see either brawler giving Septimus the smackdown. And if one were to do it, I would expect it to be a bruiser.</FONT></DIV>

[JudyJudy]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   I think the OP may be a little confused.   Brawlers can SOLO their way THROUGH Halls of Fate....  like train to an area to pick up a book for a quest....  but cannot kill all the named mobs in the zone no way.  </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><EM>That's what I was thinking as well.  But then again - players can do amazing things.</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>The question is - after these amazing things, were screenies available?  :smileywink:</EM></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>

[Supp]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JudyJudy wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Quicksilver74 wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>   I think the OP may be a little confused.   Brawlers can SOLO their way THROUGH Halls of Fate....  like train to an area to pick up a book for a quest....  but cannot kill all the named mobs in the zone no way.  </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><EM>That's what I was thinking as well.  But then again - players can do amazing things.</EM></DIV> <DIV><EM></EM> </DIV> <DIV><EM>The question is - <STRONG>after these amazing things, were screenies available?  :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink: :smileywink:</STRONG></EM></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Thail]

<div></div>I was in there for 2 hours. I skipped from named to named and tried offensives stance, split, defensive stance, vig spirtit. mezzing, fearing. Nope nut huh nu gonna happen.I'll pay said Swashy from EC 200p if he can clear the 1st and 2nd named in the zone by himself.  Not talking about clearing the whole area then dropping  from grp to  kite . I mean actually soloing  the zone.  Yep,  if he can do that before having to repair and I am there watching. He is 200p richer.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Thail on <span class=date_text>10-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:11 PM</span>

[FallenFeather]

Yes, well I know what I heard, but can't say it happened for certain,, as I haven't seen any proofs of it been done. But as they say; nothings impossible besides sitting on your on lap<span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

[Illustrious]

I have heard Coercers can do pretty well in there solo. But am doubtful they would be able to finish zone b4 they are nakid due to pets turning aggro and pretty much one shoting them.

[DarkMirrax]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Illustrious wrote:<BR> I have heard Coercers can do pretty well in there solo. But am doubtful they would be able to finish zone b4 they are nakid due to pets turning aggro and pretty much one shoting them.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Seen a coercer and warlock duo hof and an SK get to septimus

[Gungo]

<DIV>You seen a SK solo all the way to Septimus? Now that is impressive.</DIV>

[Illustrious]

<DIV>SK get to septimus maybe but did he fight all way there or FD there. Im amazed if any melee class can solo fight their way there, would be nice to see tho.</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gungo wrote:<BR> <DIV>You seen a SK solo all the way to Septimus? Now that is impressive.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>yup but hes a very fkn skilled player</P> <P>Tanks through den in 22 mins (guild record so far) SK dots are sick .. and yes i was very impressed watching it too !</P></DIV>

[lagerone]

<P>Brawlers cannot solo HoF.  That assertion; irrespective of equipment, is manifestly absurd.  I doubt you could even successfully floptrain there, due in some part to Debilitate (as pointed out).</P> <P>But if anyone would like to make the video that proves me wrong feel free, I'd be prepared to set aside the 7 hours to watch it</P>

[Gora]

<P>Bruisers can flop train to Septimus area with no issues.</P> <P>And I'll be happy to match whatever wager you care to put up that I can't.</P> <P>Argest-Najena</P>

[lagerone]

<DIV>The wager was on the solo_HoF part of the post :smileywink:.  But nonetheless I would be interested seeing a video of someone floptraining to the Doomlord.  Tried it myself and it was extraordinarily difficult as compared to other zones.  I suppose if you were very patient.....</DIV>

[DarkMirrax]

<DIV>right im off to do it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ill submit a pic with me F/D next to septimus <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[AaronSnow]

<P>It's not too difficult to FD HoF. Labs was also pretty easy. Makes collecting the books for the Claymore Line the easiest part of the never ending quest line :smileyvery-happy:</P> <P> </P> <P>But as for a bruiser soloing HoF?  Can't even imagine how you can get by the first name.</P><p>Message Edited by AaronSnow on <span class=date_text>10-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:54 AM</span>

[DarkMirrax]

<P>mit buff , stone deaf , close mind , sow totem , sprint + pray !! </P> <P> </P> <P>I cant  get to the end yet BUT I WILL !!!!</P>

[Supp]

<FONT color=#cccccc>I feigned my way through the whole of HoF (without killing anything), and that was before the nerf to debilitate. You certainly can do it, especially now. And my gear is so much better now.</FONT>