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Quicksilver74

07-25-2006, 12:33 AM

<DIV> It seems that avoidance has changed over the past year or so, or at least between T6 and T7 game mechanics. These changes have been subtle, but affect the way defense, deflection, and parry actually add to our avoidance. I had done a study on these back when desert of flames was young, and now I have done another. I have tested avoidance bonuses that are granted from higher agility, higher deflection, parry, defense, and even those of wearing Cloth Armor vs. Leather Armor, should anyone wish to wear cloth. Below are the results of my testing. 1 point of agility gives approx .025% avoidance. 4 points of agility gives approx .1 % avoidance. 1 point of defense gives approx .15% avoidance. 1 point of parry gives approx .17% avoidance. 1 Point of deflection gives approx .23% avoidance. Base avoidance of a piece of armor being leather is .8% Base avoidance of a piece of armor being cloth is 1.7% I was unable to test the base avoidance for chain armor, but I imagine it is around .4% I did get a plate tank to confirm that by removing a piece of plate armor that had no AGI or other defensive bonuses, that he had no visible change in avoidance. I can infer therefore, that Plate Armor provides NO avoidance bonus, or if it does, than it is less than .1% and therefore is not visible. What does this all mean? Well to me, it says that deflection is king. If you have to choose between an item with 5 deflection, and an item with 5 parry, you would be better to choose the item with deflection if you want to increase your avoidance. The parry skill does however offer you the chance to riposte on a successful parry from a frontal arc, which may be why it offer less base avoidance per point than deflection, however the numbers show deflection as being significantly higher than parry. Another reason to try and get deflection gear over parry gear is the fact that only brawlers can buff their own deflection, and nobody else can do that for us. A dirge can buff your parry skill, and a troubadour can buff your defense, but if you don’t get your deflection skill high, nobody else is going to be able to do it for you. In closing, this is all my own study, and by no means official. If anyone can confirm how much chain armor gives as a bonus for being chain, I’d appreciate it. My numbers might not be 100% accurate, so if you notice that I have made an error, please feel free to let me know. Thanks! </DIV>

Madmoon

07-25-2006, 02:38 AM

<DIV>Thanks, Crabbok. It might not be official, but it is useful. I will conduct my own tests, but I will start looking for deflection gear, too!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Redmouser, Bruiser, AB</DIV>

MakhailSamma

07-25-2006, 03:14 AM

Looks pretty accurate from what I have learned. Nice write up and thanks!

DarkMirrax

07-25-2006, 12:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MakhailSammael wrote: Looks pretty accurate from what I have learned. Nice write up and thanks! <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Yup i second that , its spot on crabb ill get the chain info later for you

chOgg

07-25-2006, 06:59 PM

Thanks for the info! My avoidance is only around 62.5% at level 42, which I feel is kinda low. Should I go seek out some cloth armor? Is there a level cap on avoidance?Thanks again!Thoral, 42 Bruiser, Mistmoore<div></div>

MakhailSamma

07-25-2006, 09:33 PM

<DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> chOgg wrote: Thanks for the info! My avoidance is only around 62.5% at level 42, which I feel is kinda low. Should I go seek out some cloth armor? Is there a level cap on avoidance? Thanks again! Thoral, 42 Bruiser, Mistmoore <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> The hit you would take in mitigation is in no way worth the extra avoidance you would receive.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Is that 62% in offensive or defensive and do you have any +parry/deflection,defense armor on?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> What AA line are you using?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

J4k

07-25-2006, 10:15 PM

Your avoidance is going to stay about the same as you level up. You wont see it going up much untill you get items with +defense, +parry, +deflection and also Increasing your Agility. I personally dont feel that our supposed "tanking" aa's are worth putting point into mainly because other AA's ( none are really to exciting ) are more benefitial then the 4% avoidance we would get from AA's. I would Honestly worry about getting more mitigation than anything. Then work toward deflection and parry. Defense is maxed so easily i wouldnt try to super hard to get defensive items and never use aas on our defense line. Some items I would look for to up avoidance ( T7 ) Hand of Destruction, Marr's Fist (Claymore reward), Wurmslayer, Relic Wrist piece, Relic Gloves, Archane Enchanted Skullcap, Relic Boots, Eye-covered boots, Boots of the wing, Dark chitin rings, Dragonscale Sash, Dragon scale Bracelete. Im sure theres many more out there to but those come to mind atm.

chOgg

07-26-2006, 07:35 PM

Thanks for the responses. I have no +parry or +deflection gear, avoidance is 61.5% with defensive stance, and I currently have 4/3 down the STR line.I just recently reached the 40s, and most of my main armor is still from the 30s. I'll search the broker for some +agi, +parry, and +deflection gear tonight and see if I can afford any of it. My fiancee wants me to buy a horse so I can keep up with her. I'm going to have to focus on money for a bit. Bleh.Thoral, 42 Bruiser, Mistmoore<div></div>